Real X-Files 'prove aliens exsists'

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With regards your first comment, a perception isn't the same as a lie. I don't for one second doubt the credibility of a single witness however using your methodology anything is feasible. Why not angels?
The leap from UFO's to extraterrestrials is an extensive one to say the least, from research, all evidence seems to be eyewitness accounts which, as is commonly known, is "notoriously unreliable".

Why not angels indeed. What is an angel ? It is a being from heaven. What is HEAVEN ? The universe ? Again some evidence suggests that ancient alien therorists, believe our interpretation of angels, was infact, alien visitors, we just percieved them to be angels or gods. Erik Von Danikans book, CHARIOT OF THE GODS, is based on this theory. Please forgive my spelling/grammer. I agree, most evidence is eye witness accounts, and video/photo evidence, but thats all we realy have to go on for now.

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P.S. There is a series called " ANCIENT ALIENS " in fact there are 2 series. Definately worth a look. Some very interesting facts to be had, and some very advanced tech from periods where it shouldn't have been. One bit of info was an ancient very detailed map of an area that was under miles of ice at that time, and had been for hundreds of thousands of years, and impossible for humans of that time period to know existed.

[SouthernComfort]

P.S. There is a series called " ANCIENT ALIENS " in fact there are 2 series. Definately worth a look. Some very interesting facts to be had, and some very advanced tech from periods where it shouldn't have been. One bit of info was an ancient very detailed map of an area that was under miles of ice at that time, and had been for hundreds of thousands of years, and impossible for humans of that time period to know existed.

Granted there are numerous unexplainable events throughout our time, you seem to have formed conclusions based on very little fact. I wholly support your argument for a thorough, transparent, inclusive investigation but I have yet to be convinced. I remain open minded.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" -Carl Sagan.

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Granted there are numerous unexplainable events throughout our time, you seem to have formed conclusions based on very little fact. I wholly support your argument for a thorough, transparent, inclusive investigation but I have yet to be convinced. I remain open minded.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" -Carl Sagan.

All depends how you percieve facts.This is a very controversial area to begin with. There are, as far as i am concerned untold amounts of facts. I.e. documents of all descriptions with factual evidence, including, times, dates, locations, proof of employment in a given field ect ect. One very grey area is crop circles, now although there are plenty of fakes without doubt, which only serves to hinder any investigation. There are facts within this field that cannot be ignored. now i am not saying that were made by little green men, although that is a possibilty. These crop circles have been studied, logged, mapped, analysed, and measured, both convenstionaly and geometricaly. Now it is FACT that some of theses crop circles, are so geometricaly perfect, that even if you had an army of experts, all the equipment you would ever need, and had untold amounts of time, you could never achieve it. Let alone do it in about 6-8 hours of complete darkness with 2 planks of wood and some string. The geometric patterns on some of these circles are truly out of this world. How they were formed is still open to speculation at this time. Ever heard of a guy called David Sereda ? Now he along with another guy who's name i can't remember, took 3d sclematics of the geometricly perfect crop cirles that we measured, ran them in an autocad programme and let it do it's thing. The outcome was truly amazing. One image overlayed another, and combined they were a design for a quite feasable ufo type craft. with it's power source. The power source had already been designed to an extent, possibly through reverse engineering. But when they tried to design it, it had a few fatal errors. The overlayed sclematics design, solved these issues perfectly, and David Sereda is in the process of building it. This to is FACT. However these crop circles were made, is still a mystery. These crop circles don't just appear in the fields of wiltshire either. They also appear all over the world, and not just in crops. They appear in sand, snow, ice, and even the canopies of trees. Now i'm no expert, but 2 blokes, up in a tree canopy, with 2 scaffold planks, and a ball of string, I don't think so. I would have more trouble believing that, than some alien craft sending us info to help save ourselves from ourselves.

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Here is the video with David Sereda, it's in 12 parts i think, so follow the links to the others, because to much to list here.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqWX8jKhtoI]YouTube - 2010 UFO Convention - David Sereda - Reverse Engineered UFO Technology part 1.mp4[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLpY3-Cf18I]YouTube - 2010 UFO Convention - David Sereda - Reverse Engineered UFO Technology part 2.mp4[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdyoI5-ljZs&feature=related]YouTube - 2010 UFO Convention - David Sereda - Reverse Engineered UFO Technology part 3.mp4[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFGk1RmR-Kk]YouTube - 2010 UFO Convention - David Sereda - Reverse Engineered UFO Technology part 4.mp4[/ame]

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I have offered alternative explanations, you seem to have dismissed them. You refer to all of these "facts" yet none seem directly related to extraterrestrials. Most of the information offered I am already aware of, where are the links to evidence of "alien lifeforms"?
As i'm sure you are aware there are numerous sightings of these craft plummeting into our oceans and disappearing, what if they dwell in our vast unexplored oceans and are not extraterrestrial at all.

Any aircraft could be described as a UFO unless you can identify it. An extraterrestrial alien craft is something altogether very different.

Google John Searl, i'm unsure of the validity of his claims but interesting reading/viewing nonetheless.

James Frissina <<< Any idea who this guy is, can't seem to find much info.

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[QUOTE=SouthernComfort;1066686]I have offered alternative explanations, you seem to have dismissed them. You refer to all of these "facts" yet none seem directly related to extraterrestrials. Most of the information offered I am already aware of, where are the links to evidence of "alien lifeforms"?
As i'm sure you are aware there are numerous sightings of these craft plummeting into our oceans and disappearing, what if they dwell in our vast unexplored oceans and are not extraterrestrial at all.

Any aircraft could be described as a UFO unless you can identify it. An extraterrestrial alien craft is something altogether very different.

I have not dismissed them m8, i have said that many of your alternative explanations could be very possible indeed, and as you have stated above i also believe alot fo so called crashed craft would no doubt not be of alien origin. You are also very correct in saying that any aircraft or flying object, that can't be identified, is exactly that, a UFO. Ok, now lets put the subject of the aliens inside these crafts to one side for a moment. Lets say that of all the evidence put foward supporting the fact that there is some strange craft in our skys is lets say 50% true and not faked. There is so much video evidence, photo evidence, and first hand eye witness accounts to ignore. there have been many video cases of some kind of craft, alien or otherwise doing all sorts of impossible manouvers. Now i say impossible, because we are pretty damn sure we don't have this capability, and if we do there is a very good chance of it being reverse engineered. If we don't genuinly have this capability, then who or what the hell is flying these things. They could be unmanned i agree, but again, we probably don't have the capabilty of speeds and manouvers of this kind. I would love to turn the tables on all you sceptics, and ask you to prove to me and any other likeminded people, that these are not of alien origin, and show me unquestionable evidence that they are not alien .I bet you would have more of a job on your hands than i ever would. The unquestionable evidence on both sides of the fence, will never be availiable to every day folk like you and me. Unless that is, when the leaders of this planet deside to give it to us. Which i hope for every single day of my life. It seems, that at least it seems to be going in the right direction, and the whole world is in the process of FULL disclosure. If one day in the not so distant future, this happens [ and i believe it will ] then the likes of you and i, can put this discussion to bed once and for all, and some very new and very exciting conversasions will develop. I will try to find you some video evidence, but most of the you tube type videos on this subject are very hit and miss. I wish i could upload full lenth video on this website, because i do have some pretty good stuff. Again though it's not video footage of some alien chatting to some guy in the street, because if that was truly availiable, you and i wouldn't even be having this discusion, would we ? It would be a forgone conclusion. I will try to look through those bits of info you posted a bit later m8, but off to work for a few hours now, brb.

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oh i love the human mind, i have been coninced thay exist for years, but when the dorito shaped craft passed over willenhall (where i live)and dudley west midlands about 3 years ago and again about 8 months ago, and affected radio stations for around 10 seconds fact! it was seen by people i know and videoed by a few that i dont know, i was very excited to start with but then you here of a craft the us have built which can travel a lot faster than the speed of sound and is in fact triangular shaped i then suddenly realised our imaginations want to believe its true, dont get me wrong when i here a new story i am a believer once more for a few weeks, and as for the goverment keeping it all secret ? we live in a greedy blood fursty world, if you made the dogs bollux weapons and aircraft why would you share it with the enemy ?

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"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" -Carl Sagan.

very true

i have watched some of ancient aliens which basically looks for mysteries that are unsolved by science

which works on that basis that means its an alien that did it or a god?


some people think a theory is evidence a theory is just an idea an idea can be proved right or wrong with testing

if there is no available way to test a theory like getting a time machine it remains a theory

which will like god have believers and disbelievers

my theory is this

unless aliens can travel back in time or bend time they do not drive millions of miles to hover for 5 mins in an american desert

god doesnt exist he is made up to try and make people be nice to each other with morals but instead a lot just want to kill each other because their version of god wears a different coat to another

i have no evidence to support my claims though just common sense