It's all about money!!

[racin-snake]

with regards to the ORACLE that is racinsnake's comments about it being hard to not eat aspartame i was bored and decided to look through my cuboards and out of 197 items of food and drink i found 1 item that contained this killer

Well done you spent an afternoon counting your foodstuffs .....superb

did you also try looking for other aspartame brand names ?

IE acesulfame K, aspartame, neotame, saccharin, sucralose etc to name a few .
many product's have aspartame in them yet they are branded with other brand names.
If you now use the same time researching you did today raking your cupboards you can find out the answers to the three questions you are asking me
therefore saving me explaining the same stuff over and over

sorry for my inferior intellect i did not realise that watching youtube constituted intelligence

no but if you get some questions from watching the videos to go search for answers to prove or disprove the stated info then

that cant be bad eh ?

look for the questions you want answered yourself !

1/ are you capital for the uk government or a living breathing human being (although that's a no brainier) as you have been registered at birth and are now the property of the crown (and no that does not mean the queen or the monarchy or in fact GB)

2/ you may find some of the chemicals you ingest are in fact not so good for ya and really have some unpleasant effects

3/ you can have the pleasure of researching yourself and maybe learn something about what where and how money and the monetary system is controlled and instead of having to look for an oracle find the answers yourself therefore weighing up the info and making decisions based on where how and why instead of joining in here to attempt to take the piss on something you know very little to nowt about and raking your cupboards with half the information you need to find aspartic acid/phenylalanine dipeptide which is multi-brand named

to add to hoppys comment

the insults are a response to "say it as it is"

people like norah ,shady and others just attend the discussion to attempt to make a painful read based on piss poor jokes and rhetoric that are designed to mock and throw the thread into this type of disarray

just based solely to annoy and NOT "tongue in cheek" as you claim
surely you know this if you are truthful you will agree you have in a pm to me already

hence the reason for my hostility towards these members

thered on the other hand uses his time to disprove anything which is in my humble opinion extremely good

due to the fact as he researches he finds information to add to what he didn't know therefore he learn's to use the info to base questions and answers on his research
that is to his credit
the rest are in fact trolls just trying to add unwanted and slightly juvenile humor to something they are too lazy to debate or research ?

no ORACLE no real open agenda except go have a look ask valid and decent questions and research for yourself that way you can evaluate the info and come to educated conclusions of your own

saves poor and unwanted attempts at humor
as DK has a place for that doesn't it ?

why not let the people who have and want to converse and debate these subjects alone to do so

and go play at being funny in the comedy section ?

[Shady]

to add to hoppys comment

the insults are a response to "say it as it is"

Incorrect, the insults, especially towards nara who you seem to have a fixation and apparently stems from some misdeed committed by him on another forum as if anybody gives a ****, are a result of you not liking what you hear and going on the attack. As Jean Jacques Rousseau put it "Insults are the argument employed by those who are in the wrong".

people like norah ,shady and others just attend the discussion to attempt to make a painful read based on piss poor jokes and rhetoric that are designed to mock and throw the thread into this type of disarray

just based solely to annoy and NOT "tongue in cheek" as you claim
surely you know this if you are truthful you will agree you have in a pm to me already
hence the reason for my hostility towards these members

Your hostility towards Nara has NOTHING to do with this thread, so don't come that one.. Your hostility towards me is to do with this thread, and as I said to you in pm, I readily admit that my post was designed to throw the current topic off course, as the current topic at that time was yet another slanging match that would more than likely result in bans being handed out, and the thread being closed. Maybe i went about it the wrong way,(well i obviously went about it the wrong way as my post was deleted), but it came from a place of love

thered on the other hand uses his time to disprove anything which is in my humble opinion extremely good

due to the fact as he researches he finds information to add to what he didn't know therefore he learn's to use the info to base questions and answers on his research
that is to his credit

agreed

the rest are in fact trolls

pot kettle? this all started because of your juvenile insults at thered and then your favourite victim nara popped up. and you must have thought it was your ****ing birthday and lets talk about juvenile behaviour..seeing as though you wanted to bring up pm's, i will quite gladly copy and paste the pm conversation we had

[thered]

Well done you spent an afternoon counting your foodstuffs .....superb

did you also try looking for other aspartame brand names ?

IE acesulfame K, aspartame, neotame, saccharin, sucralose etc to name a few .
many product's have aspartame in them yet they are branded with other brand names.
If you now use the same time researching you did today raking your cupboards you can find out the answers to the three questions you are asking me
therefore saving me explaining the same stuff over and over



no but if you get some questions from watching the videos to go search for answers to prove or disprove the stated info then

that cant be bad eh ?

look for the questions you want answered yourself !

1/ are you capital for the uk government or a living breathing human being (although that's a no brainier) as you have been registered at birth and are now the property of the crown (and no that does not mean the queen or the monarchy or in fact GB)

2/ you may find some of the chemicals you ingest are in fact not so good for ya and really have some unpleasant effects

3/ you can have the pleasure of researching yourself and maybe learn something about what where and how money and the monetary system is controlled and instead of having to look for an oracle find the answers yourself therefore weighing up the info and making decisions based on where how and why instead of joining in here to attempt to take the piss on something you know very little to nowt about and raking your cupboards with half the information you need to find aspartic acid/phenylalanine dipeptide which is multi-brand named

to add to hoppys comment

the insults are a response to "say it as it is"

people like norah ,shady and others just attend the discussion to attempt to make a painful read based on piss poor jokes and rhetoric that are designed to mock and throw the thread into this type of disarray

just based solely to annoy and NOT "tongue in cheek" as you claim
surely you know this if you are truthful you will agree you have in a pm to me already

hence the reason for my hostility towards these members

thered on the other hand uses his time to disprove anything which is in my humble opinion extremely good

due to the fact as he researches he finds information to add to what he didn't know therefore he learn's to use the info to base questions and answers on his research
that is to his credit
the rest are in fact trolls just trying to add unwanted and slightly juvenile humor to something they are too lazy to debate or research ?

no ORACLE no real open agenda except go have a look ask valid and decent questions and research for yourself that way you can evaluate the info and come to educated conclusions of your own

saves poor and unwanted attempts at humor
as DK has a place for that doesn't it ?

why not let the people who have and want to converse and debate these subjects alone to do so

and go play at being funny in the comedy section ?

Thank you for the reply and also no insults


I have also noted that as i am owned by the crown from birth i am part of the monetary capital of this country

this enables the monetary system to make money from myself in the form of debt whether its my money in bank deposits or tax

governments and banks can inflate my money using fractional reserve borrowing and the same for every other person in the country

WE are the countries capital


SOOOOOOO


Why do they want to kill or poison us??


No people = No goverment = No money


Your arguements are shot with their own gun yours sincerely

a dafty thicker than shit in the neck of a bottle

[satsmo]

Subscribed............and not for my love of satire or rhetoric. We never like to close threads but this one is heading that way.

[racin-snake]

I wont quote you here but.... simply the scenario you are adhering to is not as cut and dry as you seem to apply in your post

if you are useful to a certain age then thats fine after that you are a real problem to those who make money from you
IE retirees and the ill older people who cant work before retirement age ..are a burden to the people who want to make capital from your work

the point being a non working slave is a burden ..get the drift ?

really the people who have the money see us as surfs and pee ons to use and abuse they pay us to provide food and shelter for ourselves saves them looking after us ...therefore you pay for your own slavery !

well worth having a look at how these elitist oligarchs look at us
simply why in your own words do the wealthy and higher class people live longer and healthier lives ?
simply due to the fact they can afford it

all based on your efforts and capital based on a lifespan of work

i know it sounds a tad strange and unrealistic (a bit like shadys theory in his post) but the evidence and the proof backs it all up

unlike shadys post which is a concocted work of the fictional kind only he can realistically accept as some sort of twisted fact

go have a look red i know you will come back and ask other questions but have a go look at where i am pointing see what makes sense to ya and what doesn't i don't expect you to take anything in till the evidence for and against is researched

all better than raking the cupboards dont ya think ?
and actually may either take ya places you wouldn't normally go

best of luck and if its any help look at both sides see the picture from all angles
then again evaluate the evidence found

sometimes the best secrets are hidden right in front of your face

oh and well done for your great effort so far ...

"the city of london " remember its a corporation too !

like the police councils etc are all corporations please feel free to look up the meaning (in law) what this actually means then you will see who you are owned and registered to and then see why i say its not so cut and dry !

money is a fictitious entity designed to fool us into providing the elite with the real wealth !

[thered]

Made my point and old people dont drink diet drinks

[racin-snake]

no maybe not but they do use sacharin and other sweetnesrs .

and your point is not made yet IMHO

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The
issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to
whom it properly belongs."

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance."

"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

all decent and truthful quotes .... seems I am not alone in thinking wealth creates slaves ..those monetary slaves are ourselves

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits." ***8212; SIR JOSIAH STAMP, (President of the Bank of England in the 1920's, the second richest man in Britain):

"The modern Banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banks can in fact inflate, mint and unmint the modern ledger-entry currency." ***8212; MAJOR L .L. B. ANGUS:

just to add a few to the many who know the shyte we are in and who we are owned by !!

[mport343]

Subscribed............and not for my love of satire or rhetoric. We never like to close threads but this one is heading that way.

Ahh man! That's not fair, i didn't start it to have folks throw insults around, i was just yapping about things that poison you!

[mport343]

Made my point and old people dont drink diet drinks

and that's defo is it?? they just dont drink anything with a sweetner in of any kind??

[mport343]

no maybe not but they do use sacharin and other sweetnesrs .

and your point is not made yet IMHO

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The
issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to
whom it properly belongs."

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance."

"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

all decent and truthful quotes .... seems I am not alone in thinking wealth creates slaves ..those monetary slaves are ourselves

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits." ***8212; SIR JOSIAH STAMP, (President of the Bank of England in the 1920's, the second richest man in Britain):

"The modern Banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banks can in fact inflate, mint and unmint the modern ledger-entry currency." ***8212; MAJOR L .L. B. ANGUS:

just to add a few to the many who know the shyte we are in and who we are owned by !!

having seen several documentaries and read several articles on this money situation, i agree with basically everything you said mate!

[thered]

and that's defo is it?? they just dont drink anything with a sweetner in of any kind??

some maybe but i think you will find UK sugar consumption much greater than sweetener which tastes fowl anyway


tbh you could attribute the invention of TV to growing cancer rates if it suited you


have you found any evidence yet to back it up and by that i mean real clinical evidence trialled on thousands of humans not rats that confirm?

having seen several documentaries and read several articles on this money situation, i agree with basically everything you said mate!

So just out of interest how would you like to live your life?

In the IDEAL world

[nara]

Ahh man! That's not fair, i didn't start it to have folks throw insults around, i was just yapping about things that poison you!

I don't think that post was directed at you mport. I don't agree with your point of view, but you've been willing to argue your case in a civilized manner.

[mport343]

some maybe but i think you will find UK sugar consumption much greater than sweetener which tastes fowl anyway


tbh you could attribute the invention of TV to growing cancer rates if it suited you


have you found any evidence yet to back it up and by that i mean real clinical evidence trialled on thousands of humans not rats that confirm?


So just out of interest how would you like to live your life?

In the IDEAL world

when you mention evidence i presume you're talking about aspartame? if yes then the evidence as far as known side effects (92 of them) of consuming it were published at the time it was first put to trial, tested on rats though not people, you wont find any trials done on people! Just type aspartame side effects into google and you can see for yourself!
I wouldn't consider a link between cancer and TV, obesity maybe!
Ideal world for me would be to grow my own food, pay no taxes, make my own electric, and have a car that runs on chip fat!! You?

[mport343]

I don't think that post was directed at you mport. I don't agree with your point of view, but you've been willing to argue your case in a civilized manner.

I try to debate stuff without resorting to name calling where i can!

[thered]

when you mention evidence i presume you're talking about aspartame? if yes then the evidence as far as known side effects (92 of them) of consuming it were published at the time it was first put to trial, tested on rats though not people, you wont find any trials done on people! Just type aspartame side effects into google and you can see for yourself!
I wouldn't consider a link between cancer and TV, obesity maybe!
Ideal world for me would be to grow my own food, pay no taxes, make my own electric, and have a car that runs on chip fat!! You?

most things have side effects excersise can cause side effects


im not disputing if aspartame has side effects you said it was known to cause cancer there is no evidence to substantiate this




i was using TV as a tool

which when used with your statistics of cancer growing would also coincide with the number of tv's in homes rising too


anyone can make a statistic mean something


and i could argue that because of tv people are not as active so more prone to being fat which in turn makes you more likely to get cancer


the statistics do not lie rise in tv's mean rise in cancer

Ideal world for me would be to grow my own food, pay no taxes, make my own electric, and have a car that runs on chip fat!! You?

Few would argue with you there but if you family was ill would you want a hospital if you were burgled would you want police if your child was in a burning building would you want a fire engine

would you want a car?? with no roads?

Truth is if everyone in the UK went self suficient there would not be enough land to sustain us we import most of our food. Solar doesnt work wind is not reliable for electric hydro is but you have to live near water and costs are huge

Apparantly there is a magic electric box that produces 3.000.000 jiggawatts what the electric companies hiding that fits in your pocket but im not so sure

Nice theory and it is idealic but i dont think many people nowadays would go back to medieval life




If your seriously are not happy do something useful and get the support of the growing number of conspiracy theorists and make your own party

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-to-become-an-mp-ten-steps-395216

Should be easy a few on here would probably join