freemasons taking over the world

[z786]

have you got a link 2 that page?

it doesnt allege, it is self proffesed

and as for you mate, you will only realise what is going on in the real world when pigs fly

have fun

[flyingpig]

Right game over --- You just read and believe --- at least I went to find out, and found out the truth.... You just read and believe if its suits your agenda..

An the reason its game over is, its not self professed at all --- it is written in the 3rd person (he never wrote it) -- It has a reference against it (29) when you look at the list it is another book --- thirdly any academic will tell you, you cannot believe Wiki or even quote it in any form of scholarly work.

And so what if he is a mason -- what does it matter---??

[flyingpig]

Off to bed, as the Knights Templar are planning the final phase of world domination tomorrow, but them pesky imbecilles are getting in the way....

[z786]

i have no agenda mate

the link to sidenote 29 was this Steve Wozniak

which tells the date he was initiated and into which lodge

the reason why it matters is the i-phone, i-pad etc.

is aimed to represent the 1 eye

hence where this started from

[z786]

jus outta curiosity, ur not a freemason are you?
seem pretty angry evrytime some1 says anythin bad about them

[racin-snake]

Right game over --- You just read and believe --- at least I went to find out, and found out the truth.... You just read and believe if its suits your agenda..

already ?
youve came to these concusions ,read everything in this time ...your real good mate honestly ..too good for us mere men

Off to bed, as the Knights Templar are planning the final phase of world domination tomorrow, but them pesky imbecilles are getting in the way....

ok mate just wonderin though ?
i dont think you can go to bed again you havnt woken up yet
saying that you may be extremely tired doing all that research all in this tiny space of time

k then ..goodnight ..sleep tight

[z786]

hes a freemason

why would he say off to bed, Knights Templar are planning the final phase of world domination tomorrow

is he suggesting he is part of them??

hence the posts he makes are biased, i think he has an agenda

[chroma]

Woz actualy IS a mason.
So are several million other people.

He's actualy a nice guy, extermely humble and down to earth, Ive met him beefore and it was awesome, we talked about the homebew computer club and of all things computer piracy.

He's no longer active with his lodge though, as far as i can tell. As for why? i dunno you would have to ask him, im certain he'd take the time out to answer you though, like i said hes a nice guy and one of the few celebrities ive ever met that didnt act like an asshole.

Someone i have a genuine respect for, and so what if hes a mason, being a mason != being a bad person.

I could rhyme off an entire list of famous masons, but the only thing it would prove was that they're masons, nothing more, nothing less.

[racin-snake]

if thats the case hes better than the cia ...he makes us think hes stupid

its ~~~~in working dont knock it ....


sincerely and fraternally

[racin-snake]

UK

In England and Wales, whose Supreme Council was warranted by that of the Northern Jurisdiction of the USA (in 1845)[36], the Rite is known colloquially as the "Rose Croix" or more formally as "The Ancient and Accepted Rite for England and Wales and its Districts and Chapters Overseas" (continental European jurisdictions retain the "?cossais"). The only local bodies are Rose Croix Chapters; many degrees are conferred in name only, and degrees beyond the 18? are conferred only by the Supreme Council itself.
In England, the candidate is perfected in the 18th degree with the preceding degrees awarded in name only. Continuing to the 30th degree is restricted to those who have served in the chair of the Chapter. Elevation beyond the 30th degree is as in Scotland.
In Scotland, candidates are perfected in the 18th degree, with the preceding degrees awarded in name only. A minimum of a two-year interval is required before continuing to the 30th degree, again with the intervening degrees awarded by name only. Elevation beyond that is by invitation only, and numbers are severely restricted


Degree Number Southern Jurisdiction[31] Northern Jurisdiction[32] 4? Secret Master Master Traveler 5? Perfect Master 6? Intimate Secretary Master of the Brazen Serpent 7? Provost and Judge 8? Intendant of the Building 9? Elu of the Nine Master of the Temple 10? Elu of the Fifteen Master Elect[33] 11? Elu of the Twelve Sublime Master Elected 12? Master Architect Grand Master Architect 13? Royal Arch of Solomon Master of the Ninth Arch 14? Perfect Elu Grand Elect Mason 15? Knight of the East, or
Knight of the Sword, or
Knight of the Eagle Knight of the East, or
Knight of the Sword 16? Prince of Jerusalem 17? Knight of the East and West 18? Knight Rose Croix Knight of the Rose Croix de Heredom Council of Kadosh 19? Grand Pontiff 20? Master of the Symbolic Lodge Master ad Vitam 21? Noachite, or
Prussian Knight Patriarch Noachite 22? Knight of the Royal Axe, or
Prince of Libanus Prince of Libanus 23? Chief of the Tabernacle 24? Prince of the Tabernacle Brother of the Forest 25? Knight of the Brazen Serpent Master of Achievement 26? Prince of Mercy, or
Scottish Trinitarian Friend and Brother Eternal[34] 27? Knight of the Sun, or
Prince Adept Knight of Jerusalem 28? Knight Commander of the Temple Knight of the Sun, or
Prince Adept 29? Scottish Knight of Saint Andrew Knight of Saint Andrew 30? Knight Kadosh, or
Knight of the White and Black Eagle Grand Inspector 31? Inspector Inquisitor Knight Aspirant 32? Master of the Royal Secret Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret 33? Inspector General In the United States, members of the Scottish Rite can be elected to receive the 33? by the Supreme Council. It is conferred on members who have made major contributions to society or to Masonry in general. In the Southern Jurisdiction, a member who has been a 32? Scottish Rite Mason for 46 months or more is eligible to be elected to receive the "rank and decoration" of Knight Commander of the Court of Honour (K.C.C.H.) in recognition of outstanding service. After 46 months as a K.C.C.H. he is then eligible to be elected to the 33rd degree.[35] In the Northern Jurisdiction, there is only one 46-month requirement for eligibility to receive the 33rd degree, and while there is a Meritorious Service Award (as well as a Distinguished Service Award), they are not required intermediate steps towards the 33?. A recipient of the 33rd Degree is an honorary member of the Supreme Council and is therefore called an "Inspector General Honorary." However, those who are appointed Deputies of the Supreme Council that are later elected to membership on the Supreme Council are then designated "Sovereign Grand Inspectors General." In the Northern Jurisdiction a recipient of the 33rd Degree is an honorary member of the Supreme Council, and all members are referred to as a "Sovereign Grand Inspectors General."

[racin-snake]

The Secret Behind Secret Societies

food for thought ?

also ..bit religios but worth the effort ?
The Secret Behind Secret Societies

[thered]

the masons believ in the all seing eye = i
i phone
i pad
i book

and whats the logo?
The apple of temptation
given to adam n eve

yes, they are into evrything

ever thought that the i might mean i as in me/mine its more plausible to me

why so much emphasis on making things stick together ?


what about the eye toy ? anything sinister in that it was invented by richard marks

and to me the all seeing eye is just a religious belief like a god watching down from heaven

if you go to turkey you will see a lot of these sort of eyes in gift shops ect if you talk to the turkish people and you get one the eye watchs over you and makes sure no harm comes to you and they also bring you luck

the eye of fatima i believe its called


you may see it as something different but i just see it for what it is a superstition and a good luck charm like a bracelet or a rabbits foot

[z786]

funny you should mention Fatima's hand

Hamsa hands often contain an eye symbol. Depictions of the hand, the eye is related to warding off the evil eye

the evil all seing eye, we believe to be the anti-christ

i am not trying to make anything stick together, they do it for themselves

you do not understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so hopelessly dependant on the system that they will fight to protect it

[thered]

1 source make up your own mind WHO OWNS THE FEDERAL RESERVE?
2=http://www.apfn.org/APFN/fed_reserve.htm
3=http://www.usagold.com/federalreserve.htm
there are thousands more ...go on have a dig around

you might get a new piece for your jigsaw
or get a bit of fodder for thought ?
big subject for your first outing but what the hell have fun
but just remember ..if someone's trying to sell ya something are they gonna tell ya the yin or the yang ?

your call now mate ....enjoy

thanks i have had a read and btw the first one i have seen before


still not convinced im afraid and the main reason is that these things are just put together to suit

the people who come up with the theories have linked people in power together to suit with the theory of the iiluminati/13 satanic bloodlines or whatver you want to call them

13 being a number they like any one else who they need to fit to the theory becomes just an interconnnected family not a main one

major players in economy and finance are always going to be linked together doesnt mean its sinister takeovers happen all the time for example business's main objectives are to get rid of rivals ect by buying them out

loads of big companies own different companies doing different things working under different names as different branches of commerce most of these so called players you suggest made their money in the industrial revolution

people like rockefeller were in the right places at the time making money from oil and trains both lucky and a good businessman at a time when industry and wealth were an emerging to unseen levels you no longer had to be part of an aristocracy to be well off

these figures of the time rothchilds rokerfellers ect were big financial players at this particular time so have been linked with other families to this idea of a NWO when in fact over the years thier wealth and bloodlines have actually gotten smaller and more diluted

the ideas of all this conspiracy is if we can make it fit we will use it if not we will discard it


i find the ideas intriguing but the substance shoddy at best

[racin-snake]

superb matey ..at least you have looked ...
your conclusion for your own theory
its interesting that if you look then even if you deem it all to fit
although some doesnt (for you)
obviosly some will
and same names ..secret societys ..same names which all adds up to something i think (personaly) needs to be looked at
secret societys in general due to the upper echelons being wealthy and powerfull men
but hey all that you have seen has made sense to you ..then fine
skull and bones, freemasons ,trilateral commision, knights of malta ,and so on ....
are these then a power broker organisation
seems to me in the real world coincidence is really taken with a pinch of salt ...
due to the fact it has to be IMHO
not just the other sides point of view .....just a question of interest intrigue or paranoia as some may say
none the less if you look you can then make an educated decision
dont look and your looking at those imposed upon you ....

i hope in all honesty you came out of the whole thing with something valuable
a bit more information than you did before