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  • jiggy
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 21

    #1

    piracy

    This is probably a daft question but should you pay for something if you realy like it and you can get it for free. I buy all my games legit but not my music unless its very good.
    CRYTEC the makers of crysis are in trouble and are blameing piracy
  • biffo1
    V.I.P. Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 420

    #2
    to b honest mate its a buzz gettin ur games , music, movies and what ever else u get for free , just imo
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    • Seedy_r0m
      Newbie
      • May 2008
      • 8

      #3
      I've got to agree with some of the comments, the game is too graphically intensive for the majority of PC users.
      By the time they've spec'd their boxes high enough to run it, they can't afford the game

      I'm not as much of a gamer as I used to be, I usually end up buying them rather than downloading them.

      UT3 will be my next purchase as soon as I can put enough oomph in my machine to take it.

      Can't remember the last album I bought, have downloaded 100's.

      I do buy DVD's regularly though.

      The last movie I downloaded was Doomsday...that's 1hr 45minutes of my life that I won't get back. What a pile of cack!

      I only download stuff as I don't have the space for all those CD & DVD cases, & I'm doing my bit to save the planet by storing all my stuff electronically.

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      • Raven
        Banned
        • Mar 2008
        • 748

        #4
        Depending on what forums you go on you will get people frowning on piracy and etc etc....but IMO everyone does it, it's just not everyone openly admits it for obvious reasons.

        The thing to remember is that for every copy downloaded ilegally they have lost one potential buyer, possibly, but the thing to remember is that they are still pulling down 40 quid per person who is buying the game legit. Thing is the companies can say what they want about piracy but where games are concerned it is not a black and white scenario anymore, and the games companies are as much to blame.

        Think of it this way, if the game is awesome and well worth the money - go buy it. End of story. It's true that an original game beats a copy anyday for durability and packaging. But the problem is how do we know the game won't be the most overhyped pile of crap ever ? like Halo 3. How do we know if we will like or enjoy the game or not ? we don't until we play them. And stores get increasingly tight about returning PC games, trust me. Even though statutory law says otherwise.

        Then there's the problem of companies putting out shitty games with a brand name title, just to make money at the expense of customers. Or what about the companies putting online key checks in their games, thereby screwing nobody but the ones who paid for their game at the store ?

        Basically yeah, game devs are as much to blame nowadays for pulling a fast one, and bleeding heart store employees are not helping, the thing to remember is that these games are selling for 40 quid a piece, the game devs will be minted if the game is good in most cases end of story, but piracy is a big problem for them, but for us it's a necessary evil for a number of reasons, but end of the day if you like the game and play it alot then yes you should buy it, since you know you won't take it back and you also know the devs deserve your money because you know you enjoy the game and that it's worth 40 quid.

        Some companies like Bethesda, makers of Elder Scrolls Oblivion, have the right idea...no online activations or checks, no license keys, just a well crafted game and an extra incentive or two for buying the game legit. Little things you can only get with an original.
        Last edited by Raven; 11 May, 2008, 13:08.

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        • Jaffa
          V.I.P. Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 1612

          #5
          In this house we have hundreds of box sets and any major film which is good we buy, my daughters buy albums if they are good but always download it 1st to see if it is worth buying. Myself...I buy nothing as I dont play games really except psp now and again and I download the games for that.

          The majority of things I download is TV series from the US as they get them before us.
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          • dc_uk
            Newbie
            • May 2008
            • 12

            #6
            The reason their sales are so poor is that game will not run stably unless you're running the very latest and most expensive hardware. An average consumer isn't going to pay 500 quid for a graphics card, so perhaps instead of trying to push the performance of their engine, they should have worked on making it run decent on lesser hardware. Literally the only people I know who have played that game have pirated it, just to see how their hardware perform.

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            • C64
              V.I.P. Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 2394

              #7
              Rather shamefully, these days I pay for nothing.

              Haven't done since about 1997, I do feel some slight guilt if I'm playing a game and I'm really enjoying it, but never enough to make me go out and buy it.

              The only original game that I own is a copy of a PC adventure called 'Scratches', the only reason I've got that is because I was a beta tester and was given the game for free from the authors!

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              • DirtyAce
                Newbie
                • May 2008
                • 14

                #8
                I pay for my DVDs and Games thats about it.

                Considering punting my DVDs though seeing as ive got a new terra drive.
                "Give me Tong Po! I want Tong Po!"

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                • mini-moog
                  Newbie
                  • May 2008
                  • 12

                  #9
                  i buy ps3 games for obvious reasons!

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                  • C64
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2394

                    #10
                    Aye, a 1 terrabyte drive full of ~~~~ and Rangers clips.

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                    • doobiest
                      Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 42

                      #11
                      i buy origonal films and albums but only after getting them off newsgroups and deeming them worthy of taking up my shelf space!

                      never paid for a pc game although i do buy 360 games to go live with.

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                      • Raven
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 748

                        #12
                        That's the best way to do it if you are on the fence as it were. Generally I dl most of my stuff and in the past I would only buy if I couldn't find. You know what I mean . But now I am pretty much only buying what I know is good at a reasonable price, especially now with store policies being as tight as the can possibly be, IE no refunds you buy it you're stuck with it....so I have to be very careful that what I pay for is worth the money. That's the beauty of newsgroups. Glorified renting .

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                        • davidharvey75
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 293

                          #13
                          It's all a big can of worms imho!
                          If you recorded a tv show from the tele onto vhs years ago then gave it to a friend or family member to watch, thats copyright!
                          If you recorded a song from the radio onto cassette and gave it to someone thats Copyright!
                          But strangely all the big companies, still sold vhs recorders, the same way as they sell dvd recorders now, and if they didn't want you to watch or download movies from the web then surely they wouldn't put divx/xvid playback on their dvd players!
                          I'm not much of a gamer. Ps3 and pro evo thats about it. And oh yes it plays divx and vobs and mp3's. Funny that. We can't all take that many family videos that need to be compressed down to a downloadable size!

                          But thats just me.
                          Last edited by davidharvey75; 12 May, 2008, 10:06.

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                          • Raven
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 748

                            #14
                            Yeah it won't change anything, there's alot of game dev mergers and takeovers going on at the minute, despite this the gaming industry is in a boom period. Seems some companies, EA, want a piece of another companies success, Rockstar Games with GTA IV.

                            Anyhow back to piracy, the industry is in a boom period so business and popularity is as high as it's ever been, other companies are obviously using piracy to fuel their own business but any such company has nothing to do with the source material. They see it as piracy is just there so we will exploit it to make money for ourselves, and that's the thing at the end of the day, everybody is out for themselves...games developers are minted and look like sustaining it because of the boom period, other areas of business are making money themselves from piracy indirectly, and we basically dl for free and try to avoid a sting in the wallet by trying before we buy, but alot just dl and keep. So we are all happy in a sense that nobody has nothing, the only people losing out are the game devs but they are richer than you or me anyway.

                            And some game devs are far too greedy, and I am looking at EA. If I bought every single game that I own in future I would still dl particular EA games because frankly I don't like EA as a company and I wouldn't give them my money.

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                            • six2
                              Newbie
                              • May 2008
                              • 19

                              #15
                              i D/L albums for 1 reason, when you go out and buy this album what you have seen on TV that they make look good and sound great only to play it and like 3 tracks out of 15.
                              as for films i D/L 99% of them, most of the time they dont even make it to dvd, watch them on pc then get rid, if its a film that i really like i will go buy it when asda have it in there bargin bin ?4.99.
                              i buy all my games for the 360/wii, as for pc its 50/50 dl first then buy if i like. all the games cost a bomb, so why not try before you buy
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