Worried about Ps3 Break!!

[Shifty_08]

I am wondering whether to hack my ps3 but am worried about being banned. Just a quick question if i use a usb to jailbreak my ps3 and then i decide to get rid of it later and upgrade would my ps3 go back to normal or would i still be able to be banned by sony??

[cgscott]

Banned? You cant go online or update after jailbreak. in the near futur there will be release to backdate to an older version no doubt but this is a long way off. Still early days.

[Shifty_08]

Ok but...

If say i decide i dnt want my ps3 hacked anymore is it possible to perminantly undo the mod to my ps3 and play online as normal without risk

[dmunro2002]

I was thinking the same. Can you not just unplug dongle, reboot and update firmware.

[Ultavox]

Hi. I'm concerned about this too. Does anyone know if once jailbroken, there's no way back? I'm new to this and i'm expecting my teensy board to show up tomorrow. Can't wait

[relo2k]

what are you all saying,

once you jailbreak your ps3 u can only do shit with it but having the dongle connected,

if you take it out you cant even use the jailbroken features. so if you connect online it will do the same thing as it would if it werent jailbroken, ie try to update,..

after jailbreak you can still update it and have you ps3 as normal,

dont say you cant and worry other people. i doubt so many people have done so knowingly they can ever go online again unless they buy a new ps3.

[Ultavox]

Thanks for the reply. I wasn't saying you couldn't go back, i was just asking and now i know.
One more question. I presume i can delete backup manager, backups and homebrew from the system before i update (if i wish to do so).

[Ultavox]

Thats a great way to link to a commercial site but i've already bought my dongle thanks and it doesn't answer the question.

[janobi]

It only stays JB whilst the dongle is in the PS3. Once removed it goes back to being a stock PS3. If you update above 3.41 then you cannot JB the PS3 anymore, so cannot use the JB features.

[Ultavox]

I get that once the dongle is removed the ps3 is not jailbroken. The question was can i uninstal Backup/open manager, homebrew and backups before i update the firmware on the ps3 or will the update remove them anyway.
I also understand that once i update past 3.41 i can't use the jailbreak (for the time being anyway)
I've got my dongle now and can't wait to get home tonight to try it out. Fingers crossed

[deacea1]

just got mine working, havin a blast and yes i was able to update

[chroma]

From research ive managed to conduct id say that its likely that things will be logged.

Meaning that further down the line the likelyhood of a ban is high even if youve only played a handfull of pirates before the update.

BD-Rom spec has several encryption methods, not least of which is the PICzone (Permanent Information and Control data Zone) which resides on an uneditable area of the disk, commertial writers dont have access to this offset and they are formed during the burning process from the factory master.
This means that each disk has a DIFFERENT SERIAL NUMBER.

As to how these serials are formed is sketchy at best as getting access to the pic zone is neigh on impossible, down to the fact that reading it requires hacked drive firmware.
(the cryptography goes through a couple of stages of decoding before it spews output, each stage would need to be fully decrypted, documented and worked around to figure out how id's are produced, wether its a simple sequential setup or a nasier psudo random method which has several different ways of being implemented)

This serial number is read from the unit during a games boot sequence and should presumably be logged to let PSN know you had played whatever game with whatever serial.
This means that the network would maintain a database with a couple of key features:
Your Tag
Your REGION
Your Console ID
A list of games you've played
A list of serials to correspond to those games.

Its just a matter of comparing your tables to another users and seeing if the values are simmilar.
If a few units in the same regoin ID have simmilar game serials then the likelyhood is that the game is legitimate and from a used game store or rental.
If several users have the same game serial from a wide variety of different regions then the likelyhood is that its an illicit image and its only a matter of setting up a list of KNOWN serials in order to do a simple comparison and ban anyone playing with these serial keys on their system.

The simplest workaround would be to manualy edit the disk image to edit the games serial number before you boot the image, the problem here is no one has any real idea of just how the serials are formed, so making it look genuine to the database is impossible at this point, just slapping in random data would more than likely cause a flagging anyway so untill such times as the system is fully analyzed, pirates are up the creek with a turd for a paddle.

So although the PS3Jailbreak and simmilar soloutions dont modify any hardware you can bet your ass that the system is already logging and waiting for a future firmware update to allow banning.
Right now the major concern was blocking the use of these devices, which sony know is only fighting fire at this point, expect them to implement more agressive measures in future updates.

So if your playing pirate games at this point dont think about trying to go online or be fooled into thinking that simply unplugging it and updating will be even remotely safe at ths point. Rest assured the console knows what your up to and logs accordingly.

[janobi]

I get that once the dongle is removed the ps3 is not jailbroken. The question was can i uninstal Backup/open manager, homebrew and backups before i update the firmware on the ps3 or will the update remove them anyway.
I also understand that once i update past 3.41 i can't use the jailbreak (for the time being anyway)
I've got my dongle now and can't wait to get home tonight to try it out. Fingers crossed

They are all on an ext hdd anyway, so you wouldnt need to do anything with them. If they are on the internal, then you can delete them as they wont boot anyway.

[Ultavox]

Wow chroma, now that's what I call a thorough answer. Thanks to everyone for their input

[pinaderu]

the Gran Turismo 5 runs with ps3 break???