Mass ban wave under way???

[daz24c]

So is there a guide to restoring the drive back to normal?

[keefy7]

that spare box l said l had m8 has been banned tonight and l have never played a game in it so its the f/w . simple as

Have had 2 banned 1.6 liteon and 1.61 benq firmware all games were verified before play and none played before release date
looking more like firmware benq 1.61 was banned put original cod 4 in allowed back online played for an hour online turned off turned back on and console is now banned again really strange

[cgscott]

Mate, I've spoken to shitloads of people who were banned tonight, one of them had only modded their console a few days ago and were waiting for blank discs to arrive, so they hadn't even played a copied game!

It has to be the firmware.

Last night at 9.20pm 1 of my flashed benq went down at 11pm i had a phone call saying 2 of my samsungs went down. The first samsung went then he went upstairs to his lads room for the other which had never been on live and he was desperate for a game of FIFA 10 came down plugged in and bam.

Mines however is still going.
Definetly detection of firmware on drives.
No doubt about it.

[felix11]

Definetly detection of firmware on drives.
No doubt about it.

I agree. From all the stories and info available it seems clear that they are able to detect flashed drives. If so, it is the end for playing online with a flashed box - no matter what game/drive/firmware you are using.

[cgscott]

I agree. From all the stories and info available it seems clear that they are able to detect flashed drives. If so, it is the end for playing online with a flashed box - no matter what game/drive/firmware you are using.

I wouldnt say it is the end. I just think that they like to sting people this time of year as has been 3 years on the bounce.

If you survive it then so be it.

Its always good to read all the if and buts though but my mnid is clearly made up on what is happening now.

Only need to delve a bit deeper and get an exact answer on how they can detect.

[felix11]

I wouldnt say it is the end. I just think that they like to sting people this time of year as has been 3 years on the bounce.

If you survive it then so be it.

Its always good to read all the if and buts though but my mnid is clearly made up on what is happening now.

Only need to delve a bit deeper and get an exact answer on how they can detect.

Once again, I agree. I think I meant 'the end' for the moment. Perhaps you are right in saying these bans come in periodic waves, although if I were MS, and I could detect flashed firmware, I would have a system of banning those consoles all year round.

No doubt those clever people at ixtreme will get to the bottom of it (in time) and come up with as fix (hopefully). So perhaps the best thing to do right now is not to play online (with a flashed box) and wait for further developments/information - of which there are bound to be some.

Watch this space??

[daz24c]

Do banwaves happen just for a period of time or does every1 think that it will just ban u wenever u sign in for having it flashed even if u wait?

[cgscott]

Previous ban waves have happened at this timer of year 2008 and 2007.

This time a bit earlier than the past 2 years.

The ban will stop once microsoft decide they're marketing ploy has made enough profit.

[felix11]

For Info, just taken this from xbox scene talking about the current ban wave:

- So what caused my ban?
There are MANY theories as to what is causing so many consoles to get banned this time, however as of yet there is nothing concrete, just a lot of circumstantial evidence and speculation. Please do not add to this, a full investigation is under-way.

c4eva, the main guy behind iXtreme, had this to say:
<+c4eva> fw itself not detectable
<+c4eva> suspect they are going hard on warez releases and incorrect use of abgx!

He also added the following:
<+c4eva> just to let you know that im looking into the current ban wave. I am currently running several brand new xboxs on live! These xboxs are in various configs. All are running ixtreme 1.61
<+c4eva> One is running original discs, another is running on xbl (no discs) , another is running a backup from my region!
<+c4eva> until tests are completed, no eta on liteon fw!

When we know more, YOU'LL no more, so please do not ask for updates!
A full transcript is available here - pastebin - Something - post number 1660777

Remember, if you really want to blame someone, blame the person that decided to modify your 360 in the first place - most likey, that would be you ;

[loncell]

seems like a fw for sure, i have 2 banned here both banned within a few hrs.both consoles played games only ripped by good ripping firms and all abgx'd before hand.

the 2nd console hadnt been on live for 2 months so when the first console was banned i put the 2nd one on and wapp !!! that got banned.


a m8 has a flashed 360 and i was wondering (its not been online since all the banning), if i flashed it back to its original stock state will it will it still get banned once i connect it back to live ?.

[cunny]

I wouldnt say it is the end. I just think that they like to sting people this time of year as has been 3 years on the bounce.

If you survive it then so be it.

Its always good to read all the if and buts though but my mnid is clearly made up on what is happening now.

Only need to delve a bit deeper and get an exact answer on how they can detect.

I cant see it being firmware that is detectable. Its more like bad rips/miss use of ABGX thats to blame.

As just posted, even the guy behind the firmware says its undetectable by ms. Full convo here as previously posted : pastebin - Something - post number 1660777

[loncell]

i used allstars , checked with abgx and i know what im doing.one person claims he flashed his benq and was waiting for discs to arrive and he was on cod4 original disc and was banned which means its nothing to do with the game.

i know the guys behind ixtreme are clever and know their shit and resepct goes out but they can only protect against whats on show. if ms get a step ahead then how can they react to that ?? in a similar way to cable get hit then a fix found.

its definatly a FW issue too many people have been hit who have taken all the right precautions.

FW can be hit you know !.

[gazz10]

i not see it as a major issue, as most should try and remember the cost of 4-5 retail games equals a new console, and with prices dropping all time and new on market.


Most moan about it, but add up how much you have actually saved in the last year via ggame downloads.

[felix11]

I tend to agree that it looks like a firmare issue to me, it's the only real logical explanation to the evidence we are seeing.

I know ixtreme say not, but if you designed the firmware you would say that wouldn't you? Ixtreme must be pooing their pants, because if ms can detect their firmware then where do they go from there?

[EVERS666]

OK lads i will try out an experiment 2morrow when i have time, i have just upgraded to the new firmware 1.6 on a liteon drive, i have tried it out on the new cod6 modern warfare 2 game for about 30secs with the Ethernet cable disconnected so i know it works OK.

I have not yet played online with the new firmware..

2morrow i will play online with the original cod5 world at war game, i live in the midlands so if i get banned you know its the firmware not the backups, and I'll be asking Santa 4 an early Xmas prezzie??