360 elite 3 red lights

[leadboy]

hi there ive just had my sons elite fixed for the 2nd time its had the x clamp repair the first time it was done it lasted 3 weeks and this time around i got it back tonight we put the game in it all loaded went to start playing it and the screen went green so we turned it off turned it back on and its now got 3 red lights again so as you can imagine he isnt happy
is there anything else to try or is it non repairable.
thanks for any help

[cgscott]

Its needs a reflow. Tihs can be done temp by using a heatgun on the chip and overheating it. Although there is other tricks like removing the fan and overheating.

I have an Xbox that has Died 4 times on me since doing my last repair on it and cutting a hole in the chassis and plastic casing at the back where the fans blow it has lasted for 4 weeks now. Whoever done the repair im guessing they just replaced the clamps with screws and washers and did not use a heatgun to reflow. It must be done delicately for it to last and i would advise adding extra cooling to it as well.

Keep it away from radiators and make sure it is well ventilated or it will RROD again.

[leadboy]

hi thanks for the reply to be honest i wouldnt no where to start unless i can find someone to do that
thanks anyway

[cgscott]

Did the person that fixed it for you tell you it might not last long. If not then i would go back and ask for repair again free. Especially if this was a business.

[leadboy]

yeah he said he didnt no how long it would last hes done it twice now and only charged the once but the kind of things that you have surgested i dont think he would no how to do

[cgscott]

9/10 xbox will be repaired. Unless they are really old. 2005 early 2006 then most will work on again.

Worth maybe getting someone who uses a different way of repair to try again. From what you said i reckon he only tries the reheat with no fans.

If you have nothing to lose with the box. Cover the vents at the back with towel. Wrap it with a towel. And let it run for 5 minutes.
This will cause it to overheat. Let it cool for 30 minutes and plug it again. See if it boots up.

This is and old trick but can cause damage if done too much.

[killersla]

Hi you need to check the secondary error code to get more of an idea what is going on with it. To find out your secondary error code you need to press the sinc button on your console and then press the eject button.

Do this 4 seperate times and it will give you a sequence of either 4 flashing red lights 3 or 2 or 1.

So

4 lights= 0
3 lights= 3
2 lights= 2
1 light= 1

so for example you get 4 flashing then 2 then 1 then 4 that would be an error code of 0210 etc etc if you can check that then it will give you allot more info as to what is going on with the console.

[killersla]

9/10 xbox will be repaired. Unless they are really old. 2005 early 2006 then most will work on again.

Worth maybe getting someone who uses a different way of repair to try again. From what you said i reckon he only tries the reheat with no fans.

If you have nothing to lose with the box. Cover the vents at the back with towel. Wrap it with a towel. And let it run for 5 minutes.
This will cause it to overheat. Let it cool for 30 minutes and plug it again. See if it boots up.

This is and old trick but can cause damage if done too much.

If you want this fixing properly i really dont recomend rapping it in a towel

[cgscott]

If you want this fixing properly i really dont recomend rapping it in a towel

The fix had been done by someone he said probably doesnt know any other teq's i mentioned so i assumed and i am probably right that it was Xclamp Overheating failure and having it fixed for a second time suggest to me that it is a overheating issue causing the solder to crack.

So why not try overheating it again?

Do you do the full reflow reball service?

IMHO is too expensive considering the cost of a new Xbox is the better option. That way you end up with a console you know will never RROD again.

PS. I forgot to mention i did say as a last resort.

[killersla]

The fix had been done by someone he said probably doesnt know any other teq's i mentioned so i assumed and i am probably right that it was Xclamp Overheating failure and having it fixed for a second time suggest to me that it is a overheating issue causing the solder to crack.

So why not try overheating it again?

Do you do the full reflow reball service?

IMHO is too expensive considering the cost of a new Xbox is the better option. That way you end up with a console you know will never RROD again.

PS. I forgot to mention i did say as a last resort.

No you are right it is most probably a cracked or cold solder joint but it could be on the gpu (H)ANAH or ram chips and finding this secondary error code will tell you more about what is going on. Overheating is the right way to go but if you use a towel it can do more damage then good.

I offer a reflow service yes but not a reball.

[leadboy]

hi there ive got a bigger problem now my 360 has got the dreaded 3 lights so i done exactly what you said about the error codes
my sons elite is saying error 18

and mine is saying error 20

could these be fixed
thanks very much for your help

[killersla]

hi there ive got a bigger problem now my 360 has got the dreaded 3 lights so i done exactly what you said about the error codes
my sons elite is saying error 18

and mine is saying error 20

could these be fixed
thanks very much for your help

what is the 4 digit error code when you press the sinc and eject button 4 times?

[leadboy]

the elite is 4112

my one is 4114

if this makes sense hope this helps

[cgscott]

the elite is 4112

my one is 4114

if this makes sense hope this helps

Follow the guide again.
You cant be getting that code mate?

4 flashes is 0
3 flashes is 3
2 flashes is 2
1 flash is 1

So code would read 0110 in your case if you have done it correct. This is E20 error Ram related. Cold solder break which can be reheated.

[leadboy]

yeah sorry if ive done it right which i think i have

it should read 0112 and 0110

i put a 4 instead of 0