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  • tempo123
    DK Veteran
    • Feb 2009
    • 344
    #1

    laptop from hdd to ssd problem?

    Hi all, I have a toshiba laptop (a bit old but still good) and I bought a SSD drive and a backup kit from crucial.... The idea is to clone with the kit my HDD to my new SSD. I saw on the crucial web site the video tutorial to do that, so I thought was quite easy.... well the problem that I have is that my laptop runs VISTA and I read somewhere that "the offset of HDD need to be the same of SSD, otherwise ssd's that don't have a proper partition alignment suffer performance..." (from Acronis web site)
    Please bare with me that I m a noob on computer and I haven t got a clue what I have to do or mean that...
    I have done the cloning of my hdd to my new ssd and the booting time seem better but my question is how can I check that that everything is how it should be? How do I check the alignments?
    Many thanks for your help
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    • Canker_Canison
      V.I.P. Member
      • May 2010
      • 3905
      #2
      If it's working then nothing needs checking.
      Canker

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        • tempo123
          DK Veteran
          • Feb 2009
          • 344
          #3
          Originally posted by Canker_Canison
          If it's working then nothing needs checking.
          Sorry but the problem is a bit more complicated than that...... and there are few points to take in consideration,
          -VISTA don't have the command TRIM, which can cause problem on the long run of the ssd,
          -some people say that need to be aligned to the first physical sector some other say that is just fine if division for 4096(not sure) give an integer number,
          -I have tried as-ssd bench software and in my case I'm ok, but others may be not so definitely need the use of software to move partitions
          The only thing I now know that I might consider moving to a different operating system, window 7 maybe because it support out of the box TRIM....

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            • cunny
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              • Jan 2009
              • 4915
              #4
              Originally posted by tempo123
              Sorry but the problem is a bit more complicated than that...... and there are few points to take in consideration,
              -VISTA don't have the command TRIM, which can cause problem on the long run of the ssd,
              -some people say that need to be aligned to the first physical sector some other say that is just fine if division for 4096(not sure) give an integer number,
              -I have tried as-ssd bench software and in my case I'm ok, but others may be not so definitely need the use of software to move partitions
              The only thing I now know that I might consider moving to a different operating system, window 7 maybe because it support out of the box TRIM....
              You have basically answered your own question. BTW its always best to do a clean instal of something in this nature. When cloning a HDD that is the operating system HDD then you also copy all the rubbish that goes with that
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                • jaws2
                  DK Veteran
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 345
                  #5
                  dont know if this will help, i have used it dozens of times for backup clone etc, (but not ssd drive) but it mentions ssd in this video, they have a lot of info on cloning

                  The best disk cloning software for Windows to upgrade disk and transfer data - YouTube

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                    • GastonJ
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 5505
                      #6
                      Originally posted by cunny
                      When cloning a HDD that is the operating system HDD then you also copy all the rubbish that goes with that
                      Yeah you may end up copying Windows with it

                      I cloned mine using Seagates Disckwizard which seemed to do the job ok with Windows 7, though I chose a 1TB hybrid drive to save having to fork out for a 1TB SSD, or settle for having to move stuff on and off an SSD myself. It's probably quicker booting up etc, but once I got used to the increase in boot up speed and common apps loading quicker then it doesn't really seem that fast any more
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                        • Canker_Canison
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                          • May 2010
                          • 3905
                          #7
                          I switched from 2x 500GB to a 2TB storage drive & a 120GB SSD. Cloned with Acronis that came with the SSD.

                          Not even a slight hiccup. Runs a hell of a lot faster.

                          Going back to the OP... I can never understand why people cling onto Vista. I've lost count of the PC's that have been handed to me for fixing that had Vista installed, only to leave with either XP or 7 installed. Vista just isn't worth reminiscing over.
                          Canker

                          "Animal, vegetable or mineral... I'll do anything, to anything, with anything"
                          - The Baby Eating Bishop of Bath & Wells                          [COLOR=Green]

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                            • autocargo
                              DK Veteran
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1287
                              #8
                              Originally posted by tempo123
                              Hi all, I have a toshiba laptop (a bit old but still good) and I bought a SSD drive and a backup kit from crucial.... The idea is to clone with the kit my HDD to my new SSD. I saw on the crucial web site the video tutorial to do that, so I thought was quite easy.... well the problem that I have is that my laptop runs VISTA and I read somewhere that "the offset of HDD need to be the same of SSD, otherwise ssd's that don't have a proper partition alignment suffer performance..." (from Acronis web site)
                              Please bare with me that I m a noob on computer and I haven t got a clue what I have to do or mean that...
                              I have done the cloning of my hdd to my new ssd and the booting time seem better but my question is how can I check that that everything is how it should be? How do I check the alignments?
                              Many thanks for your help
                              To see if your partitions are aligned correctly, hit the Start menu and type in msinfo32. Enter Msinfo32 and go to Components > Storage > Disks. Look for your SSD on the list and find the "Partition Starting Offset" item. If this number is divisible by 4096 (that is, if dividing it by 4096 equals a whole number and not a decimal), your partition is correctly aligned. If not, you need to realign it. Hope this helps...

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