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  • excollier
    Top Poster
    • May 2009
    • 187

    #1

    XP or Linux

    I have a five year old laptop running XP but it has refused to auto update for a long time now and is still on SP2. Internet Explorer refuses to work ( hence no SP3) and it is really slow to start and update AVG free.
    My question is should I dump XP and move to Linux, or just restore and update the whole lot ( which takes several evenings of watching and swearing at the screen ) ?
    Any advice gladly received.
    Get to the Ulster Grand Prix
    Dundrod Co. Antrim
    Every August
    Learn what fast Really is!
    NOT for the faint hearted

    or watch it on BBC NI HD the following week

    (What is football all about?)

  • despdan
    V.I.P. Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 544

    #2
    Originally posted by excollier
    I have a five year old laptop running XP but it has refused to auto update for a long time now and is still on SP2. Internet Explorer refuses to work ( hence no SP3) and it is really slow to start and update AVG free.
    My question is should I dump XP and move to Linux, or just restore and update the whole lot ( which takes several evenings of watching and swearing at the screen ) ?
    Any advice gladly received.
    Set it up to multiboot so you can have both thats what I have Just choose witch one at bootup.

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    • caveman_nige
      V.I.P. Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 4920

      #3
      i have done as despdan recommends.. xp first, load linux second best to use either Ubuntu or OpenSuse.. you can download both for free and run them from CD to test them out and see if you like the feel etc...

      However if you IE does not work on your XP, then download either (or both) Opera or Firefox as alternate browsers, they are faster and cleaner anyway... but be sure to use some antispyware like Spybot S&D and free antivirus like AVG..

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      • gazz10
        V.I.P. Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 1015

        #4
        Originally posted by excollier
        ( which takes several evenings of watching and swearing at the screen ) ?
        Any advice gladly received.

        Why does it take that long to do a fresh install, got to ask yorself if it takes that long to do a fresh install, i would not even touch linux the now. Ok lappy five years old, but thats nowt really should run xp easy via format.

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        • excollier
          Top Poster
          • May 2009
          • 187

          #5
          Originally posted by gazz10
          Why does it take that long to do a fresh install, got to ask yorself if it takes that long to do a fresh install, i would not even touch linux the now. Ok lappy five years old, but thats nowt really should run xp easy via format.
          It takes that long because I have only maybe an hour at a time to spend with the computer and the number or re-boots it takes and the downloads ( large ones ) to get up to SP3 just takes so long especially with a computer this slow.
          I dont have space on my hard drive to store two operating systems (only 18 gb) so which is best?
          Get to the Ulster Grand Prix
          Dundrod Co. Antrim
          Every August
          Learn what fast Really is!
          NOT for the faint hearted

          or watch it on BBC NI HD the following week

          (What is football all about?)

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          • Mjolinor
            V.I.P. VIC
            • Jan 2009
            • 1093

            #6
            If XP takes so long then try Linux and if you don't like it go back to XP.

            If you go for Ubuntu then don't use 9.XX, use 8.XX as the newer version has a new X server and with a 5 year old laptop you would probably find that your graphics card is not well supported in the new one.

            It will only take an hour to put Ubuntu on and try it.

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            • Bobiskey
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 48

              #7
              18 gig should be plenty for a dual boot depending on what you put on after.

              First of for XP, try building a new images with SP3 pre installed.

              Code:
              http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/svpk/2008/04/windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu_c81472f7eeea2eca421e116cd4c03e2300ebfde4.exe
              Service pack 3 direct download from microsoft.

              Grab Nlite, grab SP3 above and follow instructions, build a new image and burn to cd. Install as you would normally.

              For linux. I'd say if you new to it. Take a look at KUbuntu, PC Linux OS, Simply MEPIS and Linux Mint. All very good places to start. With kubuntu, Mepis and Mint all debian based and PCLinux Red based. They all have good repositories for updating/installng new software.

              Also look at going KDE if you new. I like Gnome more but KDE suits someone moving from Windows, its less of a system shock.

              And with Linux, I'd say, have fun, try stuff out, every 1 new thing you learn is something extra
              .: Bob :.
              He Lives in a pineapple under the sea....
              Sponge Bob Square Pants ...

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              • Chimaera
                V.I.P. Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 242

                #8
                It takes less than an hour to format and sort XP if your organised

                It depends what you do with it

                If yur a gamer or use specialist programs use xp

                If yur just a surfer and emailer then use linux {prob Kubuntu}

                Just my thoughts
                http://www.simple-software.co.uk/

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                • Sisee
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 21

                  #9
                  I'm not a fan of Linux, or Windows for that matter.
                  But I'd go with XP, at least it's compatible with most things then.
                  There is a 3rd option, unsure how it works though.
                  If it's an intel laptop, you could look into Hackintosh.
                  It uses an actual install of Mac, but on a Windows built PC.
                  As I said, I'm unsure how to get Hackintosh going, but I use Mac and I like it. Never regretted leaving XP behind. And never intend to touch Vista or 7.

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                  • ManofScience
                    DK Veteran
                    • May 2009
                    • 650

                    #10
                    i've had hackintosh tiger and leopard on a lappy, wasn't too bad - but it was recent high spec'd one other wise they were both quite slowon older machines, contrary to popular fanboy opinions

                    XP should run ok, if u can get all the drivers right.

                    linux is a good choice if u only want to surf/check a few emails etc. if there's any hint you're going to want to more than that - stick with XP

                    W7 is what Vista should have been. currently got the 7260 build on my lappy and the official RC on my home PC
                    Last edited by ManofScience; 6 July, 2009, 15:10.

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                    • satman
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 736

                      #11
                      multiboot gets my vote

                      -install windows xp,
                      then install fedora11( i just installed this latest version and finding it very nice ) and use the bootloader . easy peasy
                      boom!

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                      • Mjolinor
                        V.I.P. VIC
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1093

                        #12
                        If you are going to multiboot then use grub4dos, it replaces NTLDR and means you can multi boot without making any changes to the Windo$e MBR.

                        Very easy to configure and very easy to change

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                        • excollier
                          Top Poster
                          • May 2009
                          • 187

                          #13
                          Okay, I thank you for your advice but it is WAY over my head, I think I'll just restore with XP and work it back up to SP3. But do I need to get SP2 first as when I restore it will take it back to SP1 with the restore disks I have, thanks again.
                          Get to the Ulster Grand Prix
                          Dundrod Co. Antrim
                          Every August
                          Learn what fast Really is!
                          NOT for the faint hearted

                          or watch it on BBC NI HD the following week

                          (What is football all about?)

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                          • ManofScience
                            DK Veteran
                            • May 2009
                            • 650

                            #14
                            you only need the most recent Service Pack as all the previous updates are bundled with it.

                            Download SP3 first and stick on a memory stick/CD, do a nice clean fresh install, once it's up, chuck SP3 on.

                            Remember, if you don't use the disks that came with the laptop, you will need to download the laptop specific device drivers to get it running properly.

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                            • belfast
                              Newbie
                              • May 2009
                              • 7

                              #15
                              if you want to run FPS games or music apps such as protools, cusebase, recycle I's say run both, if you don't play games (FPS games run slower under linux even natively without wine) or write music then it's possible for you to ditch windows for good.

                              which is nice

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