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  • Bann32
    DK Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 518

    #1

    VPN Provider

    Hi I would like to setup a VPN, to be able to share media files and such with a few friends can anyone recommend a provider?
  • GastonJ
    V.I.P. Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 5505

    #2
    When yoiu say share and VPN, what exactly do you mean and for what O/S? If you mean you want to set up encrypted file transfers between yourselves then look for an FTPSSL daemon, there's a few about - that way all transfers will be encrypted.

    As above, it depends what you want it for and on.
    My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
    Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
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    • Bann32
      DK Veteran
      • Oct 2011
      • 518

      #3
      To send a few files and id like to be able to connect to my network using a friends pc, so i can connect to my dreambox and watch sporting events at a friends house on his pc.

      For example if i type the local address of my dreambox in firefox, it gives me a file to download so i can watch it in vlc player.

      That and it would also make it easier for setting up wakeuponlan so i can wake my pc up and connect using teamview or simular

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      • GastonJ
        V.I.P. Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 5505

        #4
        Have you checked whether you router already supports VPN? it may well do, depends on what make it is, some do some don't. If it does then your best bet is to use that. You can use something like OpenVPN - HOWTO
        My master plan is to live forever..... going to plan so far
        Despite the cost of living, it's still very popular.
        No good deed goes unpunished....

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        • kuwaiti
          Top Poster
          • Feb 2011
          • 110

          #5
          to do that you dont need VPN
          vpn 2 kinds 1 for local network secure , 2 for internet to hide ur ip

          you need to set up your network pc as nas server so you can access it online from your friend pc


          sorry i guess that what u want

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          • Bann32
            DK Veteran
            • Oct 2011
            • 518

            #6
            yeah more or less

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            • ChaLeeBoy
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 38

              #7
              I use HideIPVPN (premium German VPN) L2TP/IPsec, and am very happy with it. I use it for anonymous browsing and I also secure my VOIP calls etc.

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              • Bann32
                DK Veteran
                • Oct 2011
                • 518

                #8
                Originally posted by ChaLeeBoy
                I use HideIPVPN (premium German VPN) L2TP/IPsec, and am very happy with it. I use it for anonymous browsing and I also secure my VOIP calls etc.
                Thanks for that they look pretty good, but why did you choose the german one, it seems the most expensive?

                im just curious as I would like the usa option for netflix.

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                • ChaLeeBoy
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 38

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bann32
                  Thanks for that they look pretty good, but why did you choose the german one, it seems the most expensive?

                  im just curious as I would like the usa option for netflix.
                  You get what you pay for. My choice provided all I need and the speed is good, the price $7.99 per month. Not what I would call a fortune.

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                  • TheCoder
                    DK Veteran
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 693

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kuwaiti
                    ..... 2 for internet to hide ur ip
                    Thats really not what they're for !

                    VPN's are basically for security only. Granted they can prevent your ISP from knowing your end destination and tracking you but they certainly aren't guaranteed to protect you if your doing something illegal. End destinations can also often gather your IP due to data 'leakage' within various protocols.

                    ALL VPN providers need to keep connection logs which describe various actions including time of connection, source IP, destination IP and data colume transferred. This is required for there normal operation (so they know how much of your allowed bandwidth is used etc). On top of this all VPN's operated in US or EU territories are obliged to keep fairly detailed transaction logs for law enforcement purposes.

                    If you want to hide your IP then you really need to consider multi-vpn bouncing (tor or onion rings) but even those are open to various forms of statistical analysis if your thinking of hacking the pentagon !

                    btw, Germany now has some pretty nasty laws for vpn operators, meaning law enforcement can quickly aquire just about any info they require with little more than a mouse-click. Holland is somewhat more liberal so is usually a better choice.
                    Last edited by TheCoder; 30 April, 2012, 16:40.

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                    • ChaLeeBoy
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 38

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TheCoder
                      Thats really not what they're for !

                      VPN's are basically for security only. Granted they can prevent your ISP from knowing your end destination and tracking you but they certainly aren't guaranteed to protect you if your doing something illegal. End destinations can also often gather your IP due to data 'leakage' within various protocols.

                      ALL VPN providers need to keep connection logs which describe various actions including time of connection, source IP, destination IP and data colume transferred. This is required for there normal operation (so they know how much of your allowed bandwidth is used etc). On top of this all VPN's operated in US or EU territories are obliged to keep fairly detailed transaction logs for law enforcement purposes.

                      If you want to hide your IP then you really need to consider multi-vpn bouncing (tor or onion rings) but even those are open to various forms of statistical analysis if your thinking of hacking the pentagon !

                      btw, Germany now has some pretty nasty laws for vpn operators, meaning law enforcement can quickly aquire just about any info they require with little more than a mouse-click. Holland is somewhat more liberal so is usually a better choice.
                      I don't need the ultimate in encryption, I am not a terrorist. My VPN only keeps connection logs for the maximum of 3 days, no other logs are kept. The very minimum in fact.

                      I read the German authorities couldn't crack the encryption used by Skype, to track terrorists. So I don't know about their laws being nasty, might have been pre the laws enactment I suppose, not sure.

                      I had a VPN in Holland but I prefer the German one and I haven't had a problem.

                      Only paedophiles and terrorists need fear, and thankfully I am neither.

                      At the end of the day, if the state wants you badly enough they will get you, whatever precautions you take. Keeping that in mind when using any VPN is the best policy.

                      I act according to the limitations.

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                      • Bann32
                        DK Veteran
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 518

                        #12
                        Its mainly to prevent the capping of speed on internet and of course privacy to more or less a degree, im not a multinational criminal or any of the above.

                        I do download files off the internet and with the recent changes in American law and the fact I believe in an individuals right to privacy, I thought I would get one, its been on the to do list for a while

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                        • Orrell Scotty

                          #13
                          Maybe you could use hamachi. It sets up a sort ot temporary vpn.

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                          • ChaLeeBoy
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 38

                            #14
                            The UK Gov't want to get up close and personal with it's citizens data, email, phone, sms the whole nine yards.

                            I use a VPN mainly to be a bit more trouble to them, I like to be a pain, f*ck the system as they say.

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                            • TheCoder
                              DK Veteran
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 693

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ChaLeeBoy
                              The UK Gov't want to get up close and personal with it's citizens data, email, phone, sms the whole nine yards.

                              I use a VPN mainly to be a bit more trouble to them, I like to be a pain, f*ck the system as they say.
                              Unfortunately, the laws presently being enacted by the UK Govt are mostly generated by the EU so are prevelant in all EU countries with the UK presently being one of the less regulated options. Germany is probably the most regulated of the EU countries (the Germans tend to implement all EU laws to the letter and beyond). France and Italy are also quite regulated but they tend to ignore EU laws most of the time unless it suites them. Ireland is also now heavily regulated. The only EU country that now makes any noise about 'privacy' is Holland.

                              Regardless of what they say, any VPN operator that has their offices within the US or EU keep logs far longer than 3 days. When they mention 3 days what they tend to mean is no full conversation log is kept more than 3 days (there's actually no good reason for them to have this log anyway except for snooping). Actual connection logs (which say which IP connected to what and for how long) have to be kept for a minimum of 3 years - thats the law !

                              VPN operators outside US/EU juristiction also tend to keep connection logs for a minimum period of 3 months just so they can run their business. If no logs were kept then they would find billing and other routine management difficult !

                              Also bear in mind the last hop of any vpn servce (the one from the vpn provider to the destination IP) is, by necessity, unencrypted. This fact allows anyone monitoring a vpn to relatively easily monitor what the vpn clients are actually doing. Statistical analyis of vpn service inputs/outputs is a fairly common tool used in intelligence gathering and can give the monitoring party almost total access to unencrypted data from what most would assume to be an encrypted datastream.
                              Last edited by TheCoder; 30 April, 2012, 23:02.

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