long and lat

[gracieboo]

Hi there hope someone can help here. my lat is 54.4 and my long is 6.4 w here in my part of northern ireland. if i wanted thor 1 west to be my ref sat on the go to x function should i reset the motor to 6 or 7 degrees west and probe the reset under the motor for 2 seconds is this correct?? any help greatly appreciated. many thanks

[alom5]

what box u using?

if you are using usals and your setup is correct it will go to the relevant sattelites automatically.

[southpaw]

The dish should point dead south when motor is on x, drive it to 1w then tweak dish to 1w signal,

[kaisar1]

With my setup, I have my motor (0-centre) dish assembly pointing directly at 0.8w. I'm currently using usals.

Is my dish/motor setup wrong?


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[gracieboo]

Hi there all thanks for the replys but the question im asking is where should i have my motor set at if my long is 6.4 west and i want thor 1 west to be my ref sat on the go to ex function. I have read a manual on a similar motor and it says that if you live in paris your long will be 2.5 east and if you wanted to 13 east you would drive the motor to 10.5 east ie 2.5 plus 10.5 =13 east so using the same theory should i then set my motor to 6 west and do a manual reset? dick b if you read this i would be greatful for your input many thanks lads for the replys.

[dick b]

there should be no need to reset the motor mate but if you do drive it to "0" via the manual button on the motor before the reset then turn the box off and back on before doing a re-align.do not re-set on any other degrees.
Now this is only if you are using diseqc 1.2. I calculate that to use 0.8W as your target sat you would need to drive the motor via its manual button to 5.6 EAST then turn the whole motor/dish assembly L/R and the dish only up/down to tune it in.
If you are using usals you dont need to calculate anything simply put your long/lat in the box drive it to 0.8W(1W) by the box,then align dish as above.if you have inputted 6.4W as your long pointer on the motor should now be roughly at 5.6E.
I"v sent a diseqc set up guide it may help you understand it.
PS the manual about paris is right but that will still be with the motor set for"0" in its re-set position,as the dish should always point due south when set at "0"degrees but it depends on your longitude as to what section of the satellite arc you can see,its difficult to explain but if its not clear ask again.

[gracieboo]

Hi dick b thanks for getting back. i will give you a little background of whats been happening. I was told by my sat installer that the usuals where f--ked in the motor so i started using 1.2 to get between sats. I was then told by someone else that the reciever tells the motor where to go and to try usals again so i got up the ladder and doive the motor to exactly 0 went back down and turned all off then restarted and put in 6.4 as my long and sent the motor to 13 east but got nothing so i went ouside to see where it was pointing at and it looked about 8 degrees off where it should be so again i tried sending the moter this time to 19 east, went outside and again it looked about 8 degrees off so i went in and changed the usauls from 6.4 west to 1.4 east to offset the 8degrees it was out and guess what everything worked fine it was following the arc no problem. But now its went again and ive tried entering all different longs from 6.4west to even 40 east with no luck and now my sat won,t move any more west with the 1.2 than 28 east. ive checked the lights on the motor and all seems fine with power and so on so looks like i will have to borrow a set of ladders again and drive the motor to 0. But this time should i do a factory reset to get rid of all the limits and so on and start afresh?? many thanks again for your help. ps could a loose connection be causing this??

[dick b]

yes mate I"d start over,start off by sending the motor to "0" by its manual button and re-setting it(just driving it to "0" wont do anything) then cut the power to it before continuing. back up your channel list.do a factory reset put your lon/lat back in the box and your channel list.send the dish to 1W by usals and realign your dish.if all is still not well can you try another box?
how old is your motor you can get a new one for ?40.what make is the motor,and what type of stb is it(I"m only any use with std technomates really) it may be that the strong winds lately have simply moved your dish(it does happen a lot) and from what you say about it working if you shift it 8 degrees it may well be that thats all thats happened.

[gracieboo]

The motor is a technomate 2200 its about 2 and half years old. im using my technomate 5300 to move the dish so if i do a factory reset i presume i lose all channels aswell. how do i do a channel back up? or could i just afterwards do rescans of all sats? ive got a dreambox 800hd now so when i get the motor sorted i will just be swapping boxs over so i ain,t to bothered if it wipes channels from the technomate. Many thanks again dick b.

[alec]

Hi dick b thanks for getting back. i will give you a little background of whats been happening. I was told by my sat installer that the usuals where f--ked in the motor so i started using 1.2 to get between sats. I was then told by someone else that the reciever tells the motor where to go and to try usals again so i got up the ladder and doive the motor to exactly 0 went back down and turned all off then restarted and put in 6.4 as my long and sent the motor to 13 east but got nothing so i went ouside to see where it was pointing at and it looked about 8 degrees off where it should be so again i tried sending the moter this time to 19 east, went outside and again it looked about 8 degrees off so i went in and changed the usauls from 6.4 west to 1.4 east to offset the 8degrees it was out and guess what everything worked fine it was following the arc no problem. But now its went again and ive tried entering all different longs from 6.4west to even 40 east with no luck and now my sat won,t move any more west with the 1.2 than 28 east. ive checked the lights on the motor and all seems fine with power and so on so looks like i will have to borrow a set of ladders again and drive the motor to 0. But this time should i do a factory reset to get rid of all the limits and so on and start afresh?? many thanks again for your help. ps could a loose connection be causing this??

If I was you, i would send the motor to Thor, adjust signal for peak, and then see if you can pick up the other sats. You only need to send the motor to O to see if the LNB , dish is in line with the motor, when pointing true South. The motor should just be off O w

[dick b]

The motor is a technomate 2200 its about 2 and half years old. im using my technomate 5300 to move the dish so if i do a factory reset i presume i lose all channels aswell. how do i do a channel back up? or could i just afterwards do rescans of all sats? ive got a dreambox 800hd now so when i get the motor sorted i will just be swapping boxs over so i ain,t to bothered if it wipes channels from the technomate. Many thanks again dick b.

just follow the guide I sent in post #8

[gracieboo]

Sorry dick b for some reason my computer won,t open the file with windows. Ive done factory reset and i can move my dish again using the 1.2 setting and have added all the sats again i now have it on thor 1 west. Is there anything i can do now to make this the go to x on the usuals without going up the ladders to probe the reset button?. like do i go to motorised setting and change from 1.2 to usals then do a recalulation or something and this will be the ref for go to x. Any help would be greatful thanks all.

[dick b]

I"v checked the file it is ok with firefox/7-zip.its just Internet explorer that gives trouble I think.
there is probably no need to probe the re-set.
if the motor/dish has moved you will not get usals to work using the correct longitude setting for your location,but if it is only slightly out you can adjust it by altering it say to start with by 0.5 degrees at a time east or west from the correct long to get your signal back then change to 0.2 degrees at a time.(exit after each change) as you can get thor on diseqc 1.2 ok and you say you have added all the sats again if you have good signal why not leave it? the hard part of diseqc 1.2 is finding the sats in the 1st place but once you have you dont need usals as all that does is make it easy to find all the other sats once you have found one usually 1w in england as thats the nearest to due south for most of us but where you are 5W would be nearer south.but it doesnt matter that much which sat you choose as your target for setting up the most important things are to have your pole 100% plumb and the dish 100% central on the motor spigot before starting.but with diseqc 1.2 your target sat must have the correct degrees set on the motor before hunting for it which unless you live on the meridian will not be the satellite degrees.
you can fine tune each sat on diseqc 1.2 by pressing the blue button on the handset.I"m sorry if I keep repeating my self have another try at downloading the files I posted.

[gracieboo]

Thanks dick b my only problem is have swapped my technomate for a dreambox 800hd and 1.2 seems a bit of a nightmare on it to get it set up and find things. At the moment i have the dreambox set up with the technomate on loop thru. I turn the dreambox on standby and then turn on the technomate find the sat using 1.2. And then when the signal goes on the usals again i do the same this time using the pos blue button see how much im out and then enter different long and it works again. Its a complete mystery. If i was just using the technomate i would keep using 1.2 as i find it gets a better picture but sort of need usals for the dreambox as i don,t want to be using this method for ever. But thanks for all your help youve been a great help as always.