Motorized Satellite Dish Almost Set Up

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  • maca
    Mr. DK DJ
    • Feb 2009
    • 6310

    #61
    try a stevie wonder scan

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    • Nutsandbolts
      DK Veteran
      • Oct 2011
      • 1168

      #62
      Originally posted by the goat
      just got a wiz tech satellite finder just a cheap thing
      its not like i have not done this stuff before
      but everytime its been hard work to get it working
      i've used this dish with 3 lnb's 28e 19e 13e
      as i said above, set it up last year as motorised worked ok
      but as i say it was not 20 min job, it took me days to get it right, and i just don't know why
      on the triax dish there are numbers on both side i'm using the ones on the east side of the dish, i've not got a manal for dish so don't know why there are different numbers on each side of the dish
      the motor bracket has lats on one side & elev on the other
      Hi. Is your LNB working/set up properly??. If your dish was getting 28/19/13 east then it should get them also with a motor. The numbers on the dish are for the tilt or azimuth setting. This is the setting that you need to concentrate on.
      This setting gives the dish angles and you need to find the right setting for your setup. The motor bracket figures are based on your location setting ie for London it is around 51N so you set motor latitude to around 51. The elevation will automatically be set to 39, you cannot alter this. The two figures will always come to 90. If your location is 53 then settings will be 53 and 37. This is how a TM2600 works. I dont know why you are having so much trouble finding satellites . Like already mentioned try and get the first satellite and the others will follow with a bit of adjustments. If you were in London i would have gladly come to give you a hand- believe me it is very simple.

      Regards.

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      • dick b
        V.I.P. Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 2462

        #63
        triax dishes although well made are a pain when fine tuning the elevation put a bit of silicone grease in the grooves so it doesnt bind so much when trying to slide it, you say you have checked the mount is plumb check also that the dish is 100% central on the motor spigot then with your location lat/long set in the box drive the dish to 28.2East and then point the whole motor/dish assembly in the same diriction as your local sky dishes make sure you have an active TP set and if possible have an on screen meter visible.then start the elevation setting on the dish at say 26 degrees move the whole motor/dish assembly L/R slowly to get a signal,look for the slightest kick in the quality then stop and try adjusting the elevation. if unsuccessful drop the elevation by 1 degree at a time and you will get it in the end. for Technomate motors a theoretical reading for the elevation is 22.4 for your latitude but dish scales are not that accurate so you have to hunt for it.(by the way azimuth is the east to west movement not the elevation as someone has suggested)

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        • ramjet
          DK Veteran
          • Nov 2008
          • 2995

          #64
          when I had my triax TD110 on a motek (technomate) motor it was about 22.5 degrees or so, which is what the booklet tells you, whereas on my new darkmotor its more like 27.5 degrees which again is what the book says, so do as dickb states above, especially as you were working at about 22 degrees before you started changing things around. I believe you use the markings on the eastern side of a triax for this

          its also worth checking the sat box on a sly dish just to be sure that 28e is ok and as dickb suggests start there as you had it before

          but I still think you need to be looking to get sats at about 10e and 13e and then start testing towards 0.8w and 39e or 42e as well. check as many fta channels as possible, both H and V , not just the odd one here and there

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          • the goat
            Top Poster
            • Mar 2010
            • 122

            #65
            thanks for all replies, i know its easy, i can't think why i'm making it so hard, will try to givr it a go this afternoon if not raining
            wondering about my LNB's they are all lemon type, may look to get new one

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            • dick b
              V.I.P. Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 2462

              #66
              Originally posted by the goat
              thanks for all replies, i know its easy, i can't think why i'm making it so hard, will try to givr it a go this afternoon if not raining
              wondering about my LNB's they are all lemon type, may look to get new one
              the lemon LNBs should still do the job ok.but if you do replace it its worth fitting a twin lnb as you can then use the spare outlet with a meter without disturbing the connection to the motor if it needs adjusting in the future.
              Last edited by dick b; 30 August, 2012, 15:31.

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              • ramjet
                DK Veteran
                • Nov 2008
                • 2995

                #67
                agreed, I use a new (2012) twin output inverto ultrablack lnb on my triax, bought from flebay

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                • the goat
                  Top Poster
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 122

                  #68
                  tried again last night, still no good
                  so i've taken it down and setting it up in backgarden at ground level i can get nearly full arc here
                  hopefully i can get it to work, and workout why i'm have probelms

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                  • dick b
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 2462

                    #69
                    Originally posted by the goat
                    tried again last night, still no good
                    so i've taken it down and setting it up in backgarden at ground level i can get nearly full arc here
                    hopefully i can get it to work, and workout why i'm have probelms
                    yeah if you have line of sight ok why not make it a proper install in the garden,to be honest I only put my dishes up within easy reach at no higher than step ladder height but I appreciate its not always possible.
                    forget the cheap sat finder and take the box into the garden with a portable tv so you can see easily whats happening and if poss set it up with a box you are familiar with then transfer the settings to your new box.
                    if you intend to put the dish back on house after setting up in the garden make sure the mounting pole in the garden is still 100% plumb as then the elevation will still hold good when you move the motor/dish back.I set up a fixed dish 4sat array like this and it made it so much easier standing on the ground to do all the fiddly alterations to the lnbs to get it just right.then it was just a matter of moving the dish L/R to find my target sat and the rest fell into place.

                    have a read of this guide I know its for old technomates but it may help
                    Last edited by dick b; 31 August, 2012, 14:17.

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                    • dick b
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2462

                      #70
                      heres a list of strong TPs for a good range of sats all checked active today they may help in setting up.

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                      • batman44
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 276

                        #71
                        I may be a bit late in this but here is a simple instruction on setting up a motorised system dish. This may help.
                        Attached Files
                        Keep calm carry on.

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                        • the goat
                          Top Poster
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 122

                          #72
                          i manage to set it up on a pole in the garden, but the vu+duo (clone) could not pick up anything
                          used my old dreambox 500, and that set it up ok
                          maybe the software or tuners on my vu+ duo not good for tuning in, but work ok when dish is already setup
                          hope to try to get it on wall tomorrow or sunday, but will but will mark lines on motor and dish before i take them off the pole in the garden

                          just tested signal strength with "enigma 2 sat meter" the one that uses your pc connected to the vu+duo, got these readings
                          0.8W83%4.8E44%7E40%10E83%13E83%19E91%28E93%
                          need to get 4.8e up so i can watch the 3pm kickoffs
                          Last edited by the goat; 31 August, 2012, 18:13. Reason: more info

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                          • the goat
                            Top Poster
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 122

                            #73
                            almost the end of this saga
                            after getting it setup in the backgarden to test it, i had to use the trusty dreambox 500 to get it set up
                            marked the position of dish, motor and brackets
                            i put it up on the pole at the side of my house, and it picked up most of the saelittes with pictures, except 4.8e
                            had the vu+duo, laptop (so i could check the sat strength via pc) and a tv in the garden with me
                            when i went back to try to get 4.8e by doing a bit of tweaking i lot everything on the vu+ duo, no pictures little signal strength
                            the long and short of it, is that my vu+duo with the image on it for some reason stops trying to tune in satelittes after a few minutes
                            if i switch it off and on again i get the few minutes to check the tuning again
                            no idea why it happens, just know thats whata going on

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                            • ramjet
                              DK Veteran
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2995

                              #74
                              one reason I still keep my old and trusty tm1500 as its a simple job to test satellites and scan channels and it works on freesat and 39e too

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                              • .: JaCkPoT :.
                                Retired Sat TV Addict
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 5607

                                #75
                                Originally posted by the goat
                                thats exactly what i've been trying to do,
                                yesterday i had 0.8w and was fiddling about trying to get the rest, earlier today i had signals on 19, 28, but now nothing
                                its driving me mad
                                its an 30 min job at most, so far i've beenat it 3 days
                                not should if it my box now
                                starting not to trust anything
                                is there a better sat finder ipk to put in vu+duo vix image
                                let me boast to you... patience is they key because it took us 16 days when we first did this 4 years ago ..

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