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Unless you own the card personally how else you getting it?
that was my point about the fact that there are other ways to get it other than what we would typically call cs
some channels may be open as feeds , or you have your own card that does it , or it may be open on a diablo or a trex
yes we would assume that the spiderbox server is using a cs system but it could be some form of IKS instead (which still needs the input of keys as they all do)
cs tends to imply that you share out a card and get a share in return, or that you pay a pay server for a cs, neither of which applies with a protek g*ft or a spiderbox g*ft
you know that and I know that, but the wider audience tends to see cs as paying a srvr for an internet feed which I dont class as sharing as they share nothing back in return
if I pay united utilities for water or bt for broadband its a service not a share as I dont share water or broadband in return. so I think its time to stop classifying pay cs as sharing as to me it isnt sharing or cs at all
I am sure that there are jsc cards available just as there are for some other channels, but when I checked jsc 5 and 10 only 10 had this match on and it was showing as opened by ethernet from the spiderbox srvr and when I switched it off it opened by share instead. had I owned that particular card it would have opened with that too
I believe the trouble here is that members have the blinkers on with cs as its taken over from previous methods to the point that very few people seemed to understand how to open pltv on 10e as the old methods seem to have died out as people have now come to rely on cs to the detriment of all other methods like emus and adding biss keys or using programmable cards or cams instead, or as you rightly say owning the actual card yourself
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