Premiere Hacked !!

[satman]

It's like proving that there is no higher being, you can't prove it.
Either you believe it or you don't.

It is getting people in the sat forums though, so you can say it's good for the whole sat scene.

I heard a lot of rumors in the past and this one is just to good to be true.
I mean come on you can watch "Blue" Movie with a "Blue" card and a module ?
If it was so easy to just get a fix after 4 month then Premiere and Kudelski screwed up pretty badly.

and too add ,, you would have thought Cabo and others would have been on long ago, if was so easy

[alunfennell]

Well yes its interesting, but we can only treat this seriously when we get more information, its been on a few Germany websites since sunday, This could be a hack only for Premiere direct as I read no mention of the other main stream Channels neither is it clear if its N*S or Nagra3, if its N*S I am nearly sure it wont last very long (although Its been long rumored that N*S has been breached), if Is Nagra3 it a good start but rememeber that Nagra 3 contract with Premiere runs out later this year.

Here is the full post translated using Bablefish.

you are surely surprised, why the status lamp is on yellow set with premiere?! The answer is simple: Premiere is hacked and open via CI module with a blue nameless card. Our past knowledge conditions: Premiere direct as well as BlueMovie run 1A with the above mentioned combination! I had seen and meanwhile circulate the privilege it with own eyes ever more report over the net. We decided to it, ours " Ampel" on yellow to set (it is not with " allen" average openly) because we do not want naturally to withhold you these information! As soon as we know more (and this knowledge is also confirmed) we you will immediately inform everyone! Because with us the user sits in " first reihe". Please does not use this thread, in order to ask a thousand times: As goes - as I come to such materials - this would be illegal and we knowing and become no support to give. There are enough possibilities in the net - thus the trouble makes for you! We inform only - and this as the FIRST! MfG.

So fingers toes and nails crossed.....

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Regards:
Alun

[alunfennell]

and too add ,, you would have thought Cabo and others would have been on long ago, if was so easy

I think this is a N*S opening not Nagra3, its been long rumored that this encryption has been opened as far back as november when the first rumors circulated , from what I am reading on German Fourms over the past few days is that this is been regarded as more than a Rumor.

Usualy trend are closed after a few hours once the source has been discredited.

Even thought neither of the two encryptions have been named N+S or Nagra3 as been opened, I am sure we would have already heard if Nagravision was official open by now on english fourms.

With 82,220,000 million Germans not able to watch hacked tv since Premiere encryption change last year, I am sure there is a lot of effort going into opening these channels, especially when other European providers do not carry German Audio with there programming. Most Germans like ourselves do not speak a second language.

Regards:
Alun

[satman]

Yeh, i agree,,
1 thing for sure,, any hacks for it thats not nagra3 ( you know what i mean ),, will either never be public,, or will last not very long at all. that i can say for cert.

With Murdoch having his stake now at premier is not good for anybody,,, ( especially the Germans )

[Devilfish]

It's like proving that there is no higher being, you can't prove it.
Either you believe it or you don't.

It is getting people in the sat forums though, so you can say it's good for the whole sat scene.

I heard a lot of rumors in the past and this one is just to good to be true.
I mean come on you can watch "Blue" Movie with a "Blue" card and a module ?
If it was so easy to just get a fix after 4 month then Premiere and Kudelski screwed up pretty badly.

But you said "It's certainly a hoax." so how do you know? Or do you 'think' its a hoax?

[satman]

Or do you 'think' its a hoax?

Much better wording my friend

[grizzlyt]

Have you klicked the link there Premiere gehackt! | rumsabbeln.de

It's a joke site, so it's not the best site for such rumors.

To be clear there is no such thing as "Nagra 3", it's still the Nagra Aladdin encryption, they just changed the cards.

The license goes until 2012 so Premiere is in there for the long run.

It is however possible that Murdoch wants to get rid of Kudelski to impose NDS as the encryption standard (he did the same thing in the States paying hackers for the first Nagra hack).

NDS is now not a subsidiary of Murdoch anymore, but I guess the greedy bastard wants total control.

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alot of topic interest on this thread

[Devilfish]

Well we do rank higher than most other sites of this kind...

premiere hacked - Google Search

[alunfennell]

Have you klicked the link there Premiere gehackt! | rumsabbeln.de

It's a joke site, so it's not the best site for such rumors.

To be clear there is no such thing as "Nagra 3", it's still the Nagra Aladdin encryption, they just changed the cards.

The license goes until 2012 so Premiere is in there for the long run.

It is however possible that Murdoch wants to get rid of Kudelski to impose NDS as the encryption standard (he did the same thing in the States paying hackers for the first Nagra hack).

NDS is now not a subsidiary of Murdoch anymore, but I guess the greedy bastard wants total control.

Thats not the websit it came from ! as were not permitted to link to another Fourm like DK, but I sugest if you are interested in looking for yourself look up some the big German Fourms that cover the same content as D.K does.

Nagra encryption only had a year left when Premiere changed over to using N+S contract runs out later this year and becomes fully N*S, Murdock would not have bought into Premiere if Nagravision was to continue on premiere for another few years.

In Europe if you use NDS you get Twenty Centuary Fox Programming and Films (Like Sky Digital) if you use Nagravision you get HBO movies and programming, no provider can use both encryptions, Premiere did not want to break contract with Nagravision it would have cost too much, so they left it run which is up later this year.


Regards:
Alun

[satman]

@alun,

KUDELSKI GROUP > Media Center > Press releases

# Cooperation between Premiere and Kudelski Group until 2012 confirmed and overall contract value maintained
# Premiere has options to renew contract until 2015 and will introduce third party CA in simulcrypt mode

[terriers]

wonder how long before we get some proof??,screenshots etc
and if its nds then great,to think an encryption cannot be broken is a bit narrow minded,when enigma was broken 60 years ago with only mathematicians,and all the technology we have at our disposal today!!!
we just need to hope the hack becomes public!

[Krypton]

wonder how long before we get some proof??,screenshots etc
and if its nds then great,to think an encryption cannot be broken is a bit narrow minded,when enigma was broken 60 years ago with only mathematicians,and all the technology we have at our disposal today!!!

well alan turing and the others had an enigma machine to work with.
if the guys had an nds encryption machine, im sure they would have cracked it, but i doubt anyones going to get there hands on one of those

[terriers]

yes they did,,but if nds or n3 is now open then they must know the main workings of it...and enigma was closed and reopened a fiew times...

[thered]

nagra 3 and nds is hacked at my house all the time not a rumour just fact

anyone else sick of hearing rumours on encryption being cracked lets have some facts i believe the proof is in the seeing and the more people who are waiting the more people will be wound up

it may never happen nds has been going a long time and as yet is not available with emu the same may happen with n3 both may never be hacked ever but i may be wrong but until my tv works without c/s i will believe in santa more than these constant rumours