Beyond Dish Size is the material ( brand )important ?

[davidcmadrid]

Greetings from Madrid where I hope once 2F is launched to be able to get the UK beam , freesat but also i hope a Sky package. I have done some research on the reciever and will probably get a vu+ duo ( though I have niggling doubts from some reports on the tuner sensitivity ) .

Anyway i guess im going to be " fringe " on this beam ( if im lucky given advances in beam shaping ) so im now looking at other items and next on the list is the dish itself. There seems to be a wide spectrum of dish price at a given size and one installer is telling me his ware is " hi gain " ,, Im a former radio amateur and to be gain comes from design first and to a lesser extent steel / aluminium and coatings but ,, my ham days are well behind me.

Does material & Brand play a big role in my chances of capturing a weak TP ? To my mind I should be focused on getting.

1. A good tuner
2. Reducing loss in the cable .. its gonna be a 50 meter run ( yikes )
3. A good LNB
4. Dish Size ( thinking 1.4 - 1.8 meter )

Any thoughts from you pros who chase weak birds especially would be most welcomed.

[mdt]

Greetings from Madrid where I hope once 2F is launched to be able to get the UK beam , freesat but also i hope a Sky package. I have done some research on the reciever and will probably get a vu+ duo ( though I have niggling doubts from some reports on the tuner sensitivity ) .

Anyway i guess im going to be " fringe " on this beam ( if im lucky given advances in beam shaping ) so im now looking at other items and next on the list is the dish itself. There seems to be a wide spectrum of dish price at a given size and one installer is telling me his ware is " hi gain " ,, Im a former radio amateur and to be gain comes from design first and to a lesser extent steel / aluminium and coatings but ,, my ham days are well behind me.

Does material & Brand play a big role in my chances of capturing a weak TP ? To my mind I should be focused on getting.

1. A good tuner
2. Reducing loss in the cable .. its gonna be a 50 meter run ( yikes )
3. A good LNB
4. Dish Size ( thinking 1.4 - 1.8 meter )

Any thoughts from you pros who chase weak birds especially would be most welcomed.

get the best equipment you can afford... a 1.8m channel master/andrew dish is the best still available but very expensive. if you have a very long run the wf100/wf125 should be used. as for the reception you really need to seek advise from local installers/people who already have a system to see what they use for reception. as with anything in life you pay for quality... eg.. a jonsa/fortec star and andrew dish of 1.8m are the same size but the andrew will beat the jonsa hands down. regards mdt

[davidcmadrid]

Thanks Andrew , my research is initial at this moment as nobody knows what size dish is required here at the moment, before Freesat etc moved to Astra 1n it was a 1.4 and im assuming a 1.4 or 1.8 covers the bases for when 2F lights up .. I was able to eliminate a few of the local cowboys who told me to get a 1 meter dish and omitted to tell me of the upcoming move from 1n european beam.. Would have happily sold me a 1 meter dishing knowing its not likely it will pull in 2Fs uk beam ( though nobody really knows ..hopefully it wont be long now before it goes live ).

Is the brand " GIBERTINI " any use ?

Your comment reference the wf125 is also noted , i was reading about it last night also. Once again thank you.

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I notice from your autosig you have a Gibertini

[blueflash234]

yes gibertini is a very good dish maker , and they do a 1.5m dish , a lot of people swear by them ,i dont think you will go wrong with purchasing one provided its big enough for your requirements

[digicon]

Until 2F is actually launched and so far the launch date has been postponed by a few days and it goes into service no one knows what the beam coverage will be like.

Rumours are it will be similar to 2A/B so europe should be OK, as we all know 1N was just a temporary stop gap which is meant for the german DTH market at 19.2? east.

My advice dont buy anything as yet until reports come in from a round your area

[davidcmadrid]

Yes Digicon, I have it fairly clear now to wait untill there are coverage reports for the new UK beam , at this point Im trying to avoid the " noobies tax " by learning what I can about the hobby and planning a system though Im waiting and hoping that a 1.5 meter dish will be good enough on the fringe of this beam.