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  • mrblue
    DK Veteran
    • Oct 2009
    • 568

    #16
    Ive made a diagram of the way I think setup should be but I do not think its right as I dont think the blue delta has inputs and outputs.

    I have just bought a blue delta and global tv link plus. So should get a chance to see how each of them work this weekend.

    Bit of a shabby diagram..
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    • mrblue
      DK Veteran
      • Oct 2009
      • 568

      #17
      I knew I was wrong. I am pretty sure this is the correct setup. Aerial coax from roof aerial plugs into aerial input on rf modulator, coax from rf out on modulator goes to input on blue delta and the output on bluedelta goes to the amp.

      And the amp needs to be digilink compatible for it all to work, and that should feed as many magic eyes as I want...
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      • ramjet
        DK Veteran
        • Nov 2008
        • 2995

        #18
        Originally posted by mrblue
        I knew I was wrong. I am pretty sure this is the correct setup. Aerial coax from roof aerial plugs into aerial input on rf modulator, coax from rf out on modulator goes to input on blue delta and the output on bluedelta goes to the amp.

        And the amp needs to be digilink compatible for it all to work, and that should feed as many magic eyes as I want...
        is the correct answer

        and if you were to add the sly box , you would put it in somewhere after the rf modulator but before the slx

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        • mrblue
          DK Veteran
          • Oct 2009
          • 568

          #19
          And just the coax cable that goes in rf1 port of sky box, that goes back into my main tv to give me my freeview, yeah..

          And the triax trilink, that basically combines the rf modulator with blue delta, probably a better simple option imo....

          Also is the rf on a vcr a 9v rf2 or is it just the same as rf modulator..

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          • ramjet
            DK Veteran
            • Nov 2008
            • 2995

            #20
            Originally posted by mrblue
            Also is the rf on a vcr a 9v rf2 or is it just the same as rf modulator..

            a vcr is a method of using an obsolete piece of equipment to change scart or phono inputs into an rf output as it employed an rf modulator to output to analogue tv (albeit a much larger box that a simple rf modulator)

            a standard magic eye supply is 9 volts from a sly box, or from the global or powered bluedelta, or I would assume from the slx or global amplifiers

            a vcr has no voltage on its rf output

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            • mrblue
              DK Veteran
              • Oct 2009
              • 568

              #21
              Not working with blue delta blaster, going to try it with triax tri link now...

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              • ramjet
                DK Veteran
                • Nov 2008
                • 2995

                #22
                blue delta works with any boxes , as long as its powered , the eyes are powered and the splitter is magic eye compatible

                sounds to me as if one of the above has not been fulfilled, think the blaster has an led on it when its powered

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                • mrblue
                  DK Veteran
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 568

                  #23
                  Have tried the triax tri link, it is pretty much rf mod and blue blaster in one.

                  Its distributing picture/audio fine but still not working with magic eyes.

                  This is my splitter box here, with integrated bypass..

                  [ame=http://www.amazon.co.uk/27820BM-Aerial-Amplifier-Digital-By-Pass/dp/B0009D5W0Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351177002&sr=8-1]SLx 27820BM 4 Way Aerial Amplifier with Digital By-Pass: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics[/ame]

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                  • mrblue
                    DK Veteran
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 568

                    #24
                    Little led on magic eye is glowing so there is defo power coming through but vu+ remote still not working...

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                    • ramjet
                      DK Veteran
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2995

                      #25
                      make sure the units are powered up locally using their own psu, as they wont get power from that slx, only the eyes will

                      should work fine with the slx though

                      suggest you try a sly box instead of the vu

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                      • mrblue
                        DK Veteran
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 568

                        #26
                        Have tried sky box and magic eye is not working with it either. It must be my cable setup, will have to try down at my dads house.

                        Basically I have no extra cables run for rf. I just plugged the living room coax cable out of the splitter box in the attic and put it in the UHF port. then from rf out on the rf modulator to the wall plate in the living and that distributes sky around my house. No aerial input or rf1 required.

                        I know I have lost freeview but wasnt really bothered;

                        I still thought it would work ok but if sky box isnt even working then it has to be the cable setup.

                        Dad has extra cables run for correct setup so will try tomorrow...

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                        • ramjet
                          DK Veteran
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2995

                          #27
                          maybe the rf modulator is blocking it , have the bluedelta or global connected to the wallplate and the sat boxes behind it in the cable setup

                          so modulator to sly box to bluedelta to wallplate , up to the loft to uhf in and off to the tv,s

                          at this point all the tv,s should see sly and the vu (stick sly on say pick tv and the vu on the vault)

                          ensure that wallplate doesnt have any capacitors inside it too as they could be blocking the magic eye signals

                          the global and bluedelta will need powering from either the sly box rf2 or a local psu plugged into the actual units

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                          • mrblue
                            DK Veteran
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 568

                            #28
                            Cannot understand this. Im not using rf modulator or blue delta or triax tri link.

                            Ive reverted back to my sky plus box and have spent the evening pulling cables from roof space just downstairs to living room to copy the setup my dad has.

                            Roof aerial coax extended down to aerial input of sky box

                            Coax cable from uhf port of slx4b to rf2 on sky box

                            And coax cable from rf1 to tv

                            Magic eye connected to bedroom tv coax and led is red but still got no control

                            Thought it would be simpler with sky plus box..???

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                            • mrblue
                              DK Veteran
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 568

                              #29
                              Just to clarify I have turned on the rf power in the sevices menu on sly box...

                              Have turned off box, turned off tvs, turned off slx amp and still nothing.

                              Nothings ever easy...

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                              • mrblue
                                DK Veteran
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 568

                                #30
                                Magic eye is definitely ok as I have plugged it direct into rf2 port of sly plus box and it works..

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