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  • donkeyboy
    DK Veteran
    • Nov 2008
    • 410

    #1

    Help plaese chaps

    I need a bit of help
    Can anyone tell me when I connect to DCC my DM shares the same IP as my router DM ends in192 etc etc .38
    and my router should end 192 etctec 1.1
    but I if put the router IP to what it should be then its says network problem but if change it back to the same as the DM it then connects and says network ok

    anyone shed any light on this

    and this just the beginning

    cheers
  • ramjet
    DK Veteran
    • Nov 2008
    • 2995

    #2
    best bet is type ipconfig into a dos box on your pc, this will tell you the pc ip address and the router host ip address

    typically the router host address will be on oneof these

    192.168.000.001 (192.168.0.1) or 192.168.001.001 (192.168.1.1) or 192.168.002.001 (192.168.2.1) or192.168.001.254 (192.168.1.254)

    make sure that address is the host ip address on the satellite box, and the primary dns to start with as well

    so lets assume your pc is on 192.168.1.2 and the router is on 192.168.1.1 , your sat box may be on 192.168.1.3 , or 192.168.1.38

    the last digits will range from 2 to 254 on all slave devices and will be 1 on the router itself

    if your router has a different host address like 254 (infinity hubs) , or uses 0.1 instead of 1.1 then amend accordingly

    no 2 devices should share the same ip address (so each of the end addresses is different)

    so checking a router in the admin panel you may see something like this

    router host 192.168.1.1
    laptop 192.168.1.2
    tablet 192.168.1.3
    mobile phone 192.168.1.4
    xbox 192.168.1.5

    etc etc

    the subnet mask is always 255.255.255.000

    the host ip address is always the router ip address

    the primary dns is usually set to the same as the router ip address, unless its set to the isp dns servers or google or opendns public server addresses instead

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    • donkeyboy
      DK Veteran
      • Nov 2008
      • 410

      #3
      Hello ramjet

      Thanks for your reply
      I get that they are supposed to be different as said above
      But if put into DCC and press connect the DM ip addy ends in """.""".38 and the router is as you say ending """.""" 1.1 he green line which runs across says check router IP ...BUT if I put the IP of the DM """.""".38 into the router section when I press connect it says network all good then I can talk to the DM
      sorry if its a repeated question but I cant get my head around it

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      • happy_highlander
        V.I.P. Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 3535

        #4
        Do you have dcc set to concect through router and not direct crossover or switch/hub if it is any of the latter two option it will not recognise your router no matter what you put into ip section
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        • ramjet
          DK Veteran
          • Nov 2008
          • 2995

          #5
          sorry to say I didnt understand the first explanation so repeating it does not help
          this was why I explained how it should be

          you need to connect the router to the dm using a straight wired ethernet cable, and another straight wired ethernet cable to your pc (or maybe wifi if using a laptop)

          now you are either obtaining an ip using dhcp which means the router is giving out the ip address, or you set it manually
          you would not get a .38 ip address if using dhcp, so it appears you have set it manually so ensure all the digits are correct
          you did not mention the number in the third array , but I would assume it should be 1.38 if your router is 1.1
          also you did not mention your pc ip address either

          neither did you mention the results of the ipconfig command in a command prompt box (dos box)
          the more info you provide the easier it is to see where your problem lies

          so to recap, you should have 3 ip addresses here, all matching apart from the last array

          router 192.168.1.1
          pc say 192.168.1.2
          dm say 192.168.1.38

          I would start by writing down your router ip address having done the ipconfig
          then write down the pc or laptop ip address and ensure the first 3 parts of the address match the router address

          now ping the router from a dos box and ensure it answers you 3 times

          then ping the dm ip address and ensure it also answers 3 times

          and make sure you have done what happy_highlander says and ticked the router box so you have 3 items on screen , not 2
          Last edited by ramjet; 13 June, 2013, 22:20.

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          • maca
            Mr. DK DJ
            • Feb 2009
            • 6310

            #6
            you cant half type fast

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            • donkeyboy
              DK Veteran
              • Nov 2008
              • 410

              #7
              DM 192.168.332
              PC 192.168.1.322
              router 192.168.1.1

              this is what they are
              and the connection is through router
              Last edited by donkeyboy; 13 June, 2013, 23:47.

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              • satsmo
                V.I.P. Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 6397

                #8
                Change DM address to DM 192.168.1.33 or enable DHCP on the DM which will also do the trick. However it is preferable to have a static IP address on your DM for maintenace purposes.
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                • donkeyboy
                  DK Veteran
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 410

                  #9
                  Sorry
                  it is 192.168.1.33
                  DCHP ticked also (in the DM)

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                  • mtv1
                    The Stig PT
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 4413

                    #10
                    you can also assign ip address in router using mac address and dhcp



                    also might help type of router ?
                    Last edited by mtv1; 13 June, 2013, 22:58.


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                    • happy_highlander
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3535

                      #11
                      have you hit search under router and let dcc find the router ip for itself or uninstalled dcc then reinstalled it.
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                      • satsmo
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6397

                        #12
                        OK then shouldn't really be a problem unless you have a block of addresses reserved in your router's DHCP table.

                        Looking at your first post, is the only problem you have is not seeing it connect via DCC? If so it could be a send socket error with DDC. Why do you need to use it as opposed to a standard FTP app?
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                        • satsmo
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6397

                          #13
                          Or any of the above,
                          I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer. - Douglas Adams

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                          • mtv1
                            The Stig PT
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4413

                            #14
                            stop clocking sats


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                            • ramjet
                              DK Veteran
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2995

                              #15
                              Originally posted by donkeyboy
                              DM 192.168.1.33
                              PC 192.168.1.36
                              router 192.168.1.1

                              this is what they are
                              and the connection is through router
                              well, if you have ticked the little box saying router in dcc you should have 3 items onscreen, and you should not need to enter the ip address as you should be able to use the search and it finds them

                              also you havent said if you can successfully ping the router and ping the dm from the pc in a command prompt (dos box)

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