Motorised dish set up (elevation question)

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  • markwi
    Top Poster
    • Jan 2014
    • 133

    #46
    Originally posted by spudorange
    Thanks for that info

    strange though that if I am using diseq and select 45 deg it goes EXACTLY to that point

    will update once I can get this motor movement sorted
    Yes,I agree,strange.Does the same happen when you select a satellite,or is that what you mean when you select 45?.I just set mine to diseq and reset the system and sent the dish to 28.2E sat and on the scale(Technomate motor) it showed 15? .With USALS it works when you use the calculator.But all of this doesn't really matter when the motor's not moving at all on the long cable,or intermittently.Try Nutnandbolts' suggestion of another lnb.Good luck.Cheers.

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    • dick b
      V.I.P. Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 2462

      #47
      just to add the motor should work with the lnb disconnected completely,(I set mine up on a bench before installing on the pole) if it still plays up I think you can rule the lnb out.

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      • spudorange
        Top Poster +
        • Oct 2009
        • 242

        #48
        Yeah mine was set up on tv table with 1 metre cable connected fine, once it went over 12 metres it played up.

        As he had previous problems with "some sat's" he got 13deg but not 19 deg for instance I changed it for a new Triax Quattro TQT 002 so ruled that out.

        Except reading the help I was getting I decided to change it for a standard sly one (zinwell) and bugger me, it's spinning now.

        This means that I will re visit this tomorrow and post up

        thanks
        Last edited by spudorange; 26 September, 2014, 00:01. Reason: spelling

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        • dick b
          V.I.P. Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 2462

          #49
          why are you using a quattro lnb?it will not work on your setup they are not like a quad lnb as each outlet serves a different purpose, they can only be used with multi switches to send the signal to multible locations flats etc: a single universal lnb should be all you need for a simple motorised system unless I"v missed something.also a zinwell although it will work on a standard dish is designed for an oval dish and will not give the best results.
          Last edited by dick b; 25 September, 2014, 18:11.

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          • spudorange
            Top Poster +
            • Oct 2009
            • 242

            #50
            Thanks very informative

            The quattro came from a guy I know who does aerial (mainly) and sat installs, he said it would solve the problem my mate had with getting some but not all satellites mentioned previously.

            ****, just googled it and the quattro's are ?59, I only gave him a fiver for it, wow

            I realise now he was wrong and appreciate the heads up.

            I will change zinwell you mention but I like to have a second cable spare to connect to meter without having to remove existing from motor, as it can be a bit of a balancing act sometimes.

            I also have a single lnb technomate TM-1 which came with a complete system I bought a while back so will use that if push comes to shove, though I would prefer a suitable quad for reasons mentioned above



            Originally posted by dick b
            why are you using a quattro lnb?it will not work on your setup they are not like a quad lnb as each outlet serves a different purpose, they can only be used with multi switches to send the signal to multible locations flats etc: a single universal lnb should be all you need for a simple motorised system unless I"v missed something.also a zinwell although it will work on a standard dish is designed for an oval dish and will not give the best results.
            Last edited by spudorange; 26 September, 2014, 00:09.

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            • dick b
              V.I.P. Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 2462

              #51
              yeah sure use a twin lnb(you dont need a quad) as that will allow you to connect a meter without disturbing the lnb to motor connection as you say.
              the TM lnb will be fine.which ever one you use do not put any skew on it for a motorised system.

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              • spudorange
                Top Poster +
                • Oct 2009
                • 242

                #52
                Update. (and I know it is not set up right so will need more help, if not then a professional installer).
                The following (my mate reckons) is the same or very similar to what he had a couple of years ago.

                After changing the lnb and tweaking I managed to get the following:

                0.8 no signal
                4.8 80%
                7.0 no signal
                9.0 no signal
                13.0 80%
                16.0 no signal
                19.2 80%
                28.2 80%
                36.0 no signal

                Moving dish between 13 deg & 19.2 deg to 16 degrees it goes exactly in the middle so should give me something, tweaking left and right still does not get a signal.

                I realise it is all about getting the settings right and they can not be but why some are fine 13 & 19.2 but not 16?

                any thoughts please

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                • dick b
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 2462

                  #53
                  16.0E is weaker than the other 2 sats so I"d send the dish to 16.0E via usals then slacken the dish elevation bracket and move it up/down 12.675 H 4.248 and 12.656 V 4.883 are strong TPs on that sat..if this does not work go back to 13 or 19.2 E and re tune the L/R direction after slackening the motor bracket and get the signal as high as possible,then do the same with the elevation on the dish.dont forget mounting pole must be 100% plumb and dish 100% central on the motor spigot near enough wont do.

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                  • Nutsandbolts
                    DK Veteran
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1168

                    #54
                    Originally posted by spudorange
                    Update. (and I know it is not set up right so will need more help, if not then a professional installer).
                    The following (my mate reckons) is the same or very similar to what he had a couple of years ago.

                    After changing the lnb and tweaking I managed to get the following:

                    0.8 no signal
                    4.8 80%
                    7.0 no signal
                    9.0 no signal
                    13.0 80%
                    16.0 no signal
                    19.2 80%
                    28.2 80%
                    36.0 no signal

                    Moving dish between 13 deg & 19.2 deg to 16 degrees it goes exactly in the middle so should give me something, tweaking left and right still does not get a signal.

                    I realise it is all about getting the settings right and they can not be but why some are fine 13 & 19.2 but not 16?

                    any thoughts please
                    Hi From the above details it seems to me that either your dish angles are slightly out or check LNB skew. If moving left or right and you dont get a signal then its to do with the way the dish is sitting on your motor pole. You will need to bring dish angles slightly in or out until you get a picture. Also as already mentioned you must make sure wall pole is straight otherwise LNB will miss the signals. Also make sure you have up to date frequencies for each satellite. If it helps make some notes of settings as you go along to help you in case you get stuck. To be honest i dont think you are far off getting the sats but its a question of trial and patience. Believe me its very simple to get the sats .. all my friends etc all get 68east to 60 west in London with a 1m dish.

                    Regards.

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