LNBS OUTPUTS QUAD AND OCTI IS THERE A SIX OUTLET

[WOODWARD395]

About to move my dish to the other side of the house to shorten the cables add a larger dish at some point and put two more boxes in the bedrooms anyone know if they do an LNB with six outlets found the Quad 4 and Octi 8 or would I be better using separate LNB'S thought a six would be easiest.

does anyone know who does them if they do.

[dick b]

use the eight as far as I know you cant get a six.

[WOODWARD395]

That's why my searches turn up nothing. eight it is then or two quads might even get a bigger dish.

[happy_highlander]

That's why my searches turn up nothing. eight it is then or two quads might even get a bigger dish.

I hope you mean a second dish cause you won't get two lnb pointing at the same sat on the same dish. Do you mean something like this. My big dish has 28.2 23.5, 19.2 &13. Quad lnb on sly dish and dual on all 4 on the other giving me 6 feeds from 28

[WOODWARD395]

yes similar to your setup to be added later plus a sat dish just for 28.2 for the rooms upstairs which in total will be 6 outlets but I want to switch my quad between dishes when setup if possible.

[happy_highlander]

What do you mean swap between dishes. My quad and my uno are connected to both dishes permanently. I have two diseqc switches giving a 4 sat feed to one sat tuner on both uno and quad with a feed from sly dish to the second sat tuner on both. The remaining two feeds from sly dish go to other boxes in different rooms

[WOODWARD395]

that's what I meant but don't have the know how at present, just that I have never used diseqc switches so am a novice in that department. just need to do a bit more research on how the switches work are they manual or can you do them remotely.

[WOODWARD395]

Ok found this just need to digest now.

This article has two parts, from it, you’ll have a more clear understanding of DiSEqC and Multi-Switch.Part1: What’s DiSEqC Switch and MultiSwitch?

DiSEqC(Digital Satellite Equipment Control),pronounced “Die-Sec”, is a special communication protocol for use between a satellite receiver and a device such as a multi-dish switch or a small[1] dish antenna rotor. DiSEqC was developed by European satellite provider Eutelsat, which now acts as the standards agency for the protocol.
DiSEqC relies only upon a coaxial cable to transmit both bidirectional data/signals and power. DiSEqC is commonly used to control switches and motors, and is more flexible than 13/18 volt and 22 kHz tone or ToneBurst/MiniDiSEqC techniques. DiSEqC is also compatible with the actuators used to rotate large C band dishes if used with a DiSEqC positioner. Despite its name, it has been used on fully ****ogue or only partially digital-capable (Astra Digital Radio) satellite receivers.
A number of variations of DiSEqC exist:
• DiSEqC 1.0, which allows switching between up to 4 satellite sources
• DiSEqC 1.1, which allows switching between up to 16 sources
• DiSEqC 1.2, which allows switching between up to 16 sources, and control of a single axis satellite motor
• DiSEqC 2.0, which adds bi-directional communications to DiSEqC 1.0
• DiSEqC 2.1, which adds bi-directional communications to DiSEqC 1.1
• DiSEqC 2.2, which adds bi-directional communications to DiSEqC 1.2
All four variations were standardized by February 1998, prior to general use of digital satellite television. The later versions are backwards compatible with the lower revisions, but the lower revisions are, as might be expected, not forwards compatible with the higher revision numbers. 1.x and 2.x versions are both backwards and forwards compatible. This table shows what works and what does not:

What’s Multiswitch?
A multiswitch is a device used with a quattro LNB to distribute satellite TV signals to multiple (usually more than four) receivers from a single dish and LNB.
A typical Ku band universal LNB can be switched between four modes (two frequency ranges and two polarisations) selected by signals from the receiver (supply voltage for polarisation and presence or absence of a 22 kHz tone for frequency range). This means that each receiver needs a separate feed and twin-tuner receivers (such as sky+ and freesat+) need two separate feeds. For small numbers of receivers a multi-output LNB is used and all the feeds are taken straight from the LNB but there is a limit to the number of outputs that can reasonably be placed on a LNB.

_____From Wikipedia

Part2: What’s the difference between DiSeqC and multi-dish Switch? There is a big deference and the two cannot be compared. Make sure that you buy the correct device.The DiSEqC Switch* A DiSEqC switch is a device which enables you to connect multiple LNBs and combine them to be used by one decoder.* The DiSEqC protocol allows for remote control of the DiSEqC switch from the decoder.* DiSEqC Switches are used for Common Interface (CI) Receivers, Common Access (CA) receivers and Free To Air (FTA) used DiSEqC protocol.* For example: The DiSEqC 4X1 Switch Diagram will enable the user to select one LNB signal between 4 different LNBs of any type and send it to the decoder.

The Multi-Switch* A Multi-Switch combines signal from more than one LNB and sends the signal to more than one receiver.* A Multi-Switch is usually used with DISH Network or DirecTV systems. It can be used with Free To Air system.* When using a multi switch, the first port is always controlled by 13V & the second by 18V DC (1 for each polarity).To receive both polarizations (H/V or R/L) you must have each port connected to a LNB. It means you have a cable for horizontal and a cable for vertical.* This is one way to connect more than one decoder to a dual LNB. A single LNB
will not work on both polarizations.

[dick b]

looks like you may bog down with too much information,what exactly do you want to do? what sats are you after feeding how many boxes etc:

[happy_highlander]

Dick is correct m8. You have made it far too complicated than it actually needs to be. Unless you are considering feeding a block of flats or a mansion diseqc is the way to go. You appear to be only needing multi sat feed to two boxes and single feed to another two. You already have the quad lnb on your sly dish so your half way there. Put up a triax td88 with multi lnb bracket and get hold of 4 twin inverto Black ultra lnb. Point The dish at around 16? E and line the lnb at 28, 23, 19 & 13. Connect the 4 twin ultra to two 1.0 diseqc switches (about a fiver each). Connect the output from each diseqc to one of your sat tuners on both twin tuner boxes and a single feed from your sly dish to the second sat tuner on both twin tuners. This will allow you to record any channel from the four sats on the big dish whilst still watching 28 on the same box. Or record uk and watch uk/euro sat the box and switch will do this seamlessly. And with your quad record from 2 sat tuner and watch cable or record cable and any of the four sats whilst watching another sat channel. You will receive around 5509 channels on your quad set up like that. Not all are in English but there are thousands that do have an english audio stream. You just set your box to choose English as the preferred language and no matter what country the program is being broadcast in you will get the English audio if it's available.

Simples

[maca]

Say that again

[WOODWARD395]

what was that again LOL its going to take me time to digest I bought the multi switch ?15 seems like its surplus to requirements.

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not to worry never knew it was that simples wife has no idea I have my new dish hidden at the back of the Garage just need new LNB'S plus switches etc. Ok so I can set up 28.2 to the bedrooms x3 then 2x 28.2 to my gigablue quad as I have x2 cable as well then add on my other dish later or would it make it more difficult to do it that way.

Was going down the quarto LNB rout originally but happy_highlander put me on the right track again as I was going to use the incorrect LNB'S thank god there are forums like DK or I would be still trying to get out of no CA FOUND which was the first thing I done when I started this hobby 3.5 yrs ago. So thanks all for your input.

[Hadron]

WOODWARD395...just to clarify, do you want to receive channels from the other satellites listed by happy_highlander, or did you just want to receive $ly channels from 28.2e on more receivers as posted in your first post?

I ask because your first post was just about getting an LNB with more ports, but now we are on to a multi-satellite setup!

[WOODWARD395]

WOODWARD395...just to clarify, do you want to receive channels from the other satellites listed by happy_highlander, or did you just want to receive $ly channels from 28.2e on more receivers as posted in your first post?

I ask because your first post was just about getting an LNB with more ports, but now we are on to a multi-satellite setup!

originally as my first post with the intention of adding a similar setup as happy_highlander later as I already have the larger dish 88cm.
but I think I need to understand multiple setups a lot more.

[happy_highlander]

It is a lot easier than it sounds. My whole setup was done with a bit of reading and an app on my Android phone to peak the signal on an up to date vhannibal channel list (you could use mine but mine wasn't available at that time ) to make sure I was lining up the correct sat. I did do a tutorial for another website which is no longer with us but I don't think I kept a copy. One thing I will say though is I installed mine above a flat roof because there is loads of adjustment to get it right. The other option is temp ground mount directly below your installation point to get your elevation correct and your lnb/dish as near as dammit before you start messing about up a ladder