anyone ever here of this box

[billy2]

hi all has anyone every here of this box S P I D E R B O X 9 0 0 0 HD using cccam ????

thanks

[Manic01]

Available from Darkman
SpiderBox is the box for all users ,easy to use dont need any knowledge about Linux ,ftp,telnet or others .The software with build CCcam and Newcamd is build on s.w and can upload by USB.

In the CCccam the Lines can be created very easy only using your remote contol,thats the big difference to other boxes.

[Evilbert]

Reading the rather long thread on another forum (why is that Darkman always so angry??), its looks like a STB for people who want to use cccam but don't want to have to learn anything linux related, just plug and play. They also seem to be hinting that they will throw in some free "cough cough" goodies when you buy it.

[freck]

Like what? cough cough!!.
Its nothing that any of the Dream range cant do,HD whoop dee doo.
Most over rated viewing that HD,gimme a good component connection anyday.HD is all a money racket since telly's came HD ready and everyone jumps on the band wagon.$$$$ is the name of the game.Its a box for the lazy man who doesnt want to learn a bit of simple linux/ftp and a few other commands.Thats all the fun of it imo.You just sit on your couch with a remote and this new box will even make the tea thats if your kettle isnt run on linux.

[Evilbert]

Like what? cough cough!!.
Its nothing that any of the Dream range cant do,HD whoop dee doo.
Most over rated viewing that HD,gimme a good component connection anyday.HD is all a money racket since telly's came HD ready and everyone jumps on the band wagon.$$$$ is the name of the game.Its a box for the lazy man who doesnt want to learn a bit of simple linux/ftp and a few other commands.Thats all the fun of it imo.You just sit on your couch with a remote and this new box will even make the tea thats if your kettle isnt run on linux.

I was thinking more along the lines of the Nanoxx, but the way the website is wording it, you will magically get these channels for free just for being good enough to buy the box from them. Jeez dude, you need to chill out, your not darkman in disguise are you?

[Manic01]

There is no free sharing being given with this box the extras are gift packages and channel list set up already. No one in there right mind in UK will give you cs on the box already loaded and Darkman is based in UK.

[Evilbert]

I thought that's what the nanoxx gave you, doesn't it c/s to some server somewhere? Sorry, don't have one myself so not sure how it works.

[Mooley]

Nanoxx is IKS not c/s.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

The nanoOxx whatever Its called has some sort of connection line built into the software So when you connect to router it will automatically start to connect to server. Thing is i doubt the nanoOxxx server is based in the uk.

[Mooley]

It is not based in the UK and there are a few backups scattered about the world also supposedly. When it was down a few months ago they moved it from where it was. It also has an emulator which can be utilised on the Thor sat.

[freck]

The server was in the middle east and then split into 2 and 1 of them is based somewhere in europe.you flash on two bin files and a channel list if you can get one ,rig up to your router and your away.

[freck]

I was thinking more along the lines of the Nanoxx, but the way the website is wording it, you will magically get these channels for free just for being good enough to buy the box from them. Jeez dude, you need to chill out, your not darkman in disguise are you?

Sorry about that rant last night Evil Bert I was a bit wound up,hope I didnt offend.

[freck]

For anyone wanting to know what IKS is heres a guide....thanks to the author "Grasshopper"

1) IKS runs on centralized server that is a share point to servers which relay on this server. Your box is connecting too relays not the IKS Server.

2) IKS servers require UDP connection, not TCP. You can think of UDP as more secure but the real difference is that UDP packets travell one way (request is send from the receiver and then fullfiled by the server but there is no guarantee on data delivery of the packet from the server meaning that server drops the link with requestor as soon as it get it - it may deliver it later on however). The relay - is really a relay in UDP sense - (request can be made to one server but another server may fullfil it). Since there is no constant connection beeing open it is almost impossible to catch the very small (tidy) request and data travel from boxes to IKS.

3) IKS Servers accept only connection that has receiver id attached to the data package. No request from PC or other device can be made -this really gives much trouble in idenfying what is the content of the IKS package or intercepting it. I am not sure it the package it self is beeing encrypted somehow - but it will be easy to do if not. With encrypted packages even if someone itercepts it - taht would become useless.

4) For the providers to hunt you down they will need to know servers that nFusion boxes are connecting too. To find out, they will have to intercept the traffic from the centralized server whcih is off-shore (but hard to do explained before). I could not locate the servers by looking at routers access logs - I can only find out the servers it is connecting too --- and surprisingly i saw different connections (rotating relays) --- which gives me positives vibes about IKS.

5) All the providers can do is to look that your connecetion is making some request or data that is beeing transfered from a server has been idenfied as suspicios - but before they can even take an action upon it - the new server can be set and there you go another round of finding it out will be needed. This is time consuming and very very tidious and expensive task (not that the providers can not afford it). Even if the provider proves that the traffic from your internet connection is suspicios - they can not prove that it came from your requests from your receiver (they can trace back anything beyong your router/modem).

6) "Dave" did go to small people on the first occasion of IKS (more then 10 years ago -- ohhh yes do not be surprised IKS is nothing new --- it has been used back in Dave days computer was needed that will serve ready descrambled packages to the receiver using waffer boards - card emulators) - but "dave" had physical prove to against small people (hardware needed to make this function) - unlinke today (no additional hardware needed - so hard to tell if you are really wrongdoing something).

The final decision is always up to you to make. I do not wan to sound encouraging or disapointing - use your own judgment - do lots of reading - before you venture into somethign that may give you chills.

IKS doesn't mean you won't go down just that you come back up much faster.

If your hooked up to the net with your nfusion and you come home and turn your box on it will tell you if there is a new update and give you the option to update your box with the click of the remote button.

If your watching tv on stand alone (emu ON) and it goes down you simply click menu+user settings+emu off and IKS will kick in when you exit to tv.

99.9% of the time its IKS all the way.

I don't worry about anyone getting my ip from the nfusion iks server as it does not collect anything other than an error log saying what failed.

Most have not noticed that IKS and Files are on 2 different servers and are ported to 1 that you are connected to.
That should be enough for people to guess there is more than 1 server at work here. I think last count there was 5 ported thru a chain across the web to 1 point of access. That point of access can be changed with a click of a button. So what if someone gets the main click boom somewhere else we go .

Anyone that wants to can easily run a proxy on your system and your bouncing around the world anyways.

Now to the whole sending keys things. The iks does not at anytime send keys to your box.(illegal) It does how ever send data to your box so your box knows what to do to get itself going. Kind of like a A.I coding. No not any of the pyro team will explain that part for good reason. Why give up a trade secret . I hope this helps some of you out with what your wanting to know.

[Evilbert]

Sorry about that rant last night Evil Bert I was a bit wound up,hope I didnt offend.

Don't worry about it m8, learnt more this morning about nanoxx than ever before :-) (and have to say, glad i went down the dm route)

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

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