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  • Curious123
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    • Apr 2008
    • 2591

    #1

    Two receivers one motorised dish

    Just got myself a DM800S to replace my DM600S which has served me really well for the last 6 months. I have now got my DM800S working fine and was looking to flog my DM600 but then thought I could use it in another room. I know I can only have one box control my dish and motor at any one time but is it possible to configure & install my boxes with Twin LNB plus switch in such a way that I could turn the motor from either by flicking a switch?
  • av2008
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    • Sep 2008
    • 156

    #2
    Originally posted by Curious123
    Just got myself a DM800S to replace my DM600S which has served me really well for the last 6 months. I have now got my DM800S working fine and was looking to flog my DM600 but then thought I could use it in another room. I know I can only have one box control my dish and motor at any one time but is it possible to configure & install my boxes with Twin LNB plus switch in such a way that I could turn the motor from either by flicking a switch?
    Im not sure if it will work but what if you have a manual A-B switch from the cable connected to the motor. One end goes to the DM800 and one goes to the 600. The only thing is you would not be able to watch a different channel on each box. To sort this out you could get an automatic Diseqc switch at the dm600 end and configure the DM600 to use input 1 from the second lnb input to view channels and input 2 to move the motor from the split cable.

    I dont know if thats possible but I thoght id try.

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    • Curious123
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      • Apr 2008
      • 2591

      #3
      Originally posted by av2008
      Im not sure if it will work but what if you have a manual A-B switch from the cable connected to the motor. One end goes to the DM800 and one goes to the 600. The only thing is you would not be able to watch a different channel on each box. To sort this out you could get an automatic Diseqc switch at the dm600 end and configure the DM600 to use input 1 from the second lnb input to view channels and input 2 to move the motor from the split cable.

      I dont know if thats possible but I thoght id try.
      Thanks for your reply. I have not heard of an automatic Diseq switch would you have link?

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      • av2008
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        • Sep 2008
        • 156

        #4
        Originally posted by Curious123
        Thanks for your reply. I have not heard of an automatic Diseq switch would you have link?
        Its just something like this

        Spaun SAR 212 WSG DiSEqC 2.0 2/1 Schalter f?r 2 LNB!TOP on eBay (end time 10-May-10 21:22:00 BST)

        If you want to use it on the DM800 end Spaun is the only brand that works well.

        You could intead just use another manual A-B switch but then you have to flick two switches.

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        • Curious123
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          • Apr 2008
          • 2591

          #5
          Originally posted by av2008
          Its just something like this

          Spaun SAR 212 WSG DiSEqC 2.0 2/1 Schalter f?r 2 LNB!TOP on eBay (end time 10-May-10 21:22:00 BST)

          If you want to use it on the DM800 end Spaun is the only brand that works well.

          You could intead just use another manual A-B switch but then you have to flick two switches.
          I notice the above automatic diseqc switch has two LNB and one receiver connection. I am trying to imagine this in my head but not quite getting it, any chance you coul do quick sketch?

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          • av2008
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            • Sep 2008
            • 156

            #6
            I made a diagram, I hope it helps but im no artist,
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            • patkins
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              • Oct 2009
              • 3662

              #7
              Curious, I googled your query How would i connect two Sat boxes to one motorised dish` and in the answer under TECHWATCH site you can see that the answer is similar to the one by av2008 above. Hope it makes sense to you. Im on 4 fixed dishes so could not make a judgement on your query.

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              • Sirus
                DK Veteran
                • Nov 2008
                • 340

                #8
                What about loop-through

                If you were to run the cable from the motor into the closest box then use the loop-through into the next box.. then both could turn the motor could they not

                If the 600 is in the bedroom and the 800 is off downstairs then the 600 has the priority but then when the 600 is off the loop-through should feed down to the 800.. is that not what loop-through is for anyhow

                Maybe work.. Maybe wont... worth a try
                Last edited by Sirus; 19 April, 2010, 21:51.

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                • av2008
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                  • Sep 2008
                  • 156

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pat kinsella
                  Curious, I googled your query How would i connect two Sat boxes to one motorised dish` and in the answer under TECHWATCH site you can see that the answer is similar to the one by av2008 above. Hope it makes sense to you. Im on 4 fixed dishes so could not make a judgement on your query.
                  Its good to know someone else on Techwatch had a similar idea to me because I just made it up on the spot so I thought my idea could be a bit stupid

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                  • av2008
                    Top Poster
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 156

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sirus
                    What about loop-through

                    If you were to run the cable from the motor into the closest box then use the loop-through into the next box.. then both could turn the motor could they not

                    If the 600 is in the bedroom and the 800 is off downstairs then the 600 has the priority but then when the 600 is off the loop-through should feed down to the 800.. is that not what loop-through is for anyhow

                    Maybe work.. Maybe wont... worth a try
                    This does work. Im using a similar se-up but theres no way of using both boxes at the same time. Its a good solution if you dont need to use both boxes at once.

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                    • Curious123
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                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2591

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sirus
                      What about loop-through

                      If you were to run the cable from the motor into the closest box then use the loop-through into the next box.. then both could turn the motor could they not

                      If the 600 is in the bedroom and the 800 is off downstairs then the 600 has the priority but then when the 600 is off the loop-through should feed down to the 800.. is that not what loop-through is for anyhow

                      Maybe work.. Maybe wont... worth a try
                      One of my box will be in the lounge and the other box will be in the dining room. The wife and I like sometime like to sit in the dining room with a glass of wine and let the kids fight out over they watch in the lounge. My primary sat boxes will be on 24/7 for reasons we can't talk about here and the secondary box will be slaved of the first box so basically both boxes are going to be on all the time.

                      What I am scared of is someone pressing a channel on the remote and sending the motor off in different directions at the same time on both boxes blowing everything up on the boxes and motor. Majority of the time it will be parked on 28.2E but when no-one is interested in watching the tv I would like to have the option of controlling the dish from either box probably with an ABswitch to manage it and make sure I flicked to the correct box to move the motor. @av2008 do I still need the twin LNB and thanks for the sketch it does makes sense now I just need to go and buy the kit and install it.

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                      • alunfennell
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                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1525

                        #12
                        No ! there is no way around your dilemma.

                        For a Multi room - Multi satellite setup you would have to go away from Motor control satellite dish and over too a Multi lnb setup



                        And then use a Multi sat splitter for distrabution around the house.


                        Then each receiver can work independently from each other on different satellites.
                        Last edited by alunfennell; 20 April, 2010, 16:20.
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                        • dizzy
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                          • Feb 2009
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                          • .: JaCkPoT :.
                            Retired Sat TV Addict
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5607

                            #14
                            Get an a/b switch for your second receiver. This will give your second box 2 inputs. One will go from a twin lnb And the other from loop through from the main box.
                            Btw when boxes being off was mentioned before it means on standby so it will not affect your '@@@@' stuff.

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                            • av2008
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                              • Sep 2008
                              • 156

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Curious123
                              One of my box will be in the lounge and the other box will be in the dining room. The wife and I like sometime like to sit in the dining room with a glass of wine and let the kids fight out over they watch in the lounge. My primary sat boxes will be on 24/7 for reasons we can't talk about here and the secondary box will be slaved of the first box so basically both boxes are going to be on all the time.

                              What I am scared of is someone pressing a channel on the remote and sending the motor off in different directions at the same time on both boxes blowing everything up on the boxes and motor. Majority of the time it will be parked on 28.2E but when no-one is interested in watching the tv I would like to have the option of controlling the dish from either box probably with an ABswitch to manage it and make sure I flicked to the correct box to move the motor. @av2008 do I still need the twin LNB and thanks for the sketch it does makes sense now I just need to go and buy the kit and install it.

                              Yes you do because one lnb output should go to the motor and the other to the auto switch. In that diagram there is an issue once you select input B on the manual switch only the 600 would control the motor or be able to receive a signal. The 800 will have no signal or motor capabilities.

                              Therefore how it would work is when the manual switch is on input A only the only the 800 would control the motor. When input B is selected only the 600 will control the motor/receive a signal. The signal on the 800 will stop. So technically once you have used the 600 to move the dish you would select input A again so both receivers would get a signal once again but the 600 would stop controlling the motor.

                              I know this is kind of confusing so I hope I dont get blamed if you buy the parts and it dont work. but you will not have a problem of the motor being controlled by both boxes at the same time because they wont be connected at the same time.

                              Once you have the parts set up the software set up is another nightmare. It is up to you what way round you put the receivers. I would use the receiver that is easiest to set up with the Diseqc switch at the Diseqc end.

                              I hope it makes some kind of sense. If you decide to go ahead with trying this out let us know the outcome, thanks.
                              Last edited by av2008; 21 April, 2010, 13:49.

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