Why do i bother ?

[alunfennell]

This may be true. But then at least some evidence should be added and not just some general claim be made. I say this mainly to make aware of the consequencs posting such posts may have for the poster. I'm all for free speech. But be carefull in the way you say things.

It is however clear (and it must be to everyone) that 'he' has some serious issues. Not least his bad grasp of English. He would be well advised to follow an English course and an anger management course. And also stay on his own forum. I think he posts (and reads) more on other forums than his own.

Evidence was posted here openly over a year ago on DK and was followed by a DK administrator who stated that he received similar Emails, I am not going back through a thousand + posts to find it for you, Copies of the emails were posted & commented on by many.

I have no problems i stating that This individual believed I was responsible for a DDOS Attack on his website, He is the person who needs to be careful what he says !

And your snubbing of my comments over two relating threads heightens my curiosity some what by the way you defend this individual in one comment by deflect away any attention of it with another....

Actuall here you go I found one Email I was sent back in 2009..... Enjoy

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f75/alsat-site-dowm-38255/index2.html#post197090

[themanfromuncle]

Evidence was posted here openly over a year ago on DK and was followed by a DK administrator who stated that he received similar Emails, I am not going back through a thousand + posts to find it for you, Copies of the emails were posted & commented on by many.

I have no problems i stating that This individual believed I was responsible for a DDOS Attack on his website, He is the person who needs to be careful what he says !

And your snubbing of my comments over two relating threads heightens my curiosity some what by the way you defend this individual in one comment by deflect away any attention of it with another....

First of all I am not defending anybody and certainly not 'him' and I am not snubbing any of your comments.

It is clear he is not the only person here with issues. You are unable to have a normal conversation of any kind. Everytime you get a response that you don't like you deflect by making comments like "heightens my curiosity" or that there is one person with multiple logins and so on.

As I have not been here that long (just like a lot of members) I know nothing about the mails and post or the attack you are referring to. Or do you expect new members to read every post ever made here before they are allowed by you to say anything?

Unlike you I made no personal attack. I just remarked on the danger of posting accusations without providing some proof of what you are saying.

You seem to be very knowlegdeable about satellite stuff but I have found you to be very unfair and pretentious.

No doubt this thread or my posts will be deleted shortly.

[jumpinjo]

Its a sad day when on DK when a unreputable dealer & and dealers can not be named and shamed, and our information we post can inform potential customers from thinking twice about buying a certain product.

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spot on bud and totally agree with you

[firestorm]

Digita Kaos is here to help people about many things. Making a poll about another forum is not acceptable, it doesn't matter what forum it is. We are not here to discuss other forums.

ok thats fair enough but this discussion http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...problem-58409/ seems to have missed your attention i am sure there are others as well
A**shit is always going to be mentioned as it is not only a forum but a major suppler in sat equipment in the uk probably the largest and in that way and unfortunatly will always be metioned as will virgin,sky ect ect so exclude any discussion would have an effect on tring,spiderbox,digilab,Eagle ect ect as the claim are the sole supplers of these products

[alunfennell]

themanfromuncle

I hope its not removed, for some it will be like Flies around Shit, you will get a few thanks for that I am rest assured.

I can also acknowledge my frailties and I will not dismiss your response, and as your response seems to me that of been genuine Guy, I apologizes for stepping over the mark, there have been to many fakes over the past months where I am the figure of most of their attention, I felt you were the reincarnation of someone else, if you get my drift

[Bulld0g]

I never missed anything, the two threads are completely different. The Satking thread was asking what happened to the site, the deleted thread was a poll about a site with the sole intention to slag it off. We are not here to make ATTACKS on other forums. The original thread was made with the outcome intended to do just that. There is a difference or can't you see that ?

[themanfromuncle]

themanfromuncle

I hope its not removed, for some it will be like Flies around Shit, you will get a few thanks for that I am rest assured.

I can also acknowledge my frailties and I will not dismiss your response, and as your response seems to me that of been genuine Guy, I apologizes for stepping over the mark, there have been to many fakes over the past months where I am the figure of most of their attention, I felt you were the reincarnation of someone else, if you get my drift

In that case I hold no hard feelings.

[alunfennell]

Firestorm is putting it in context ! If you ban discussion regarding one Satellite forum then its only right its followed up regarding all other satellite forums what ever the topic, even going as far as questions been asked (where do I buy a certain receiver) of which we have many threads regarding.


The name of the Website in the questionable Thread was disguised & in many cases the majority of people would not have a clue and by all accounts the Thread was turning out to be rather favorable towards the (unnamed website) than that of been negative in my opinion.

How that would change over the weeks is unknown, until the Satellite card in question does or does not open what its supposed to open as advertised by its dealers who some are members on DK, most notable Dark*** himself who only got himself been banned from here the other day.

If this is the underlying reason for a no mention of a certain website then we should be informed, I think we would all except it ....for that reason going forward.

[themanfromuncle]

And I too apologise if I have overstepped the mark.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

I see both sides of the argument here, i see why it was removed. But ..... If a person goes to the extent of registering here under an alias to help promote items of his which at many times includes false promises then we should be able to let our genuine members know. After seeing the thread in question i knew it would be removed as even i did think it had the potential to become a pivot for slagging of alsat, darkman and alsat shop on the open forum which would create greater tension between digital kaos and alsat

[firestorm]

I never missed anything, the two threads are completely different. The Satking thread was asking what happened to the site, the deleted thread was a poll about a site with the sole intention to slag it off. We are not here to make ATTACKS on other forums. The original thread was made with the outcome intended to do just that. There is a difference or can't you see that ?

i have no problem with any one here as in rule 2 all i was doing is quoteing what you said and pionting out a discussion about another website
"doesn't matter what forum it is. We are not here to discuss other forums."
sorry if i miss understud you i hope you execpt my apologises

[ITS A SCAM !]

Digita Kaos is here to help people about many things. Making a poll about another forum is not acceptable, it doesn't matter what forum it is. We are not here to discuss other forums.

Many thanks indeed for your input and authority....I think i speak for a lot of members on here when i say that we have nowhere to complain and share experiences with other forums or hardware stockists....We all know who this latest thread is all about, and we are very careful what we say....But if we are not allowed to complain on their own forum, because we will get banned and the thread will be removed forever ( so its pointless wasting time anyway ), where can we go ?? There are so many good, honest, hard working folk on here who deserve a break, and if wasting hard earned cash can be avoided on a product thats rubbish, then surely its a good thing ? My original post was a simple yes or no answer, and i think its opened a can of worms....I did not know there was so many unhappy ex-customers of ( you know who). Maybe there should be a section to either praise a seller or to moan about them ? They will be given the opportunity to come on here and defend their product, assuming they can take constructive criticism and be grown up about it.

[Meat-Head]

Making a poll about another forum is not acceptable, it doesn't matter what forum it is. We are not here to discuss other forums.

Think you meant to say

"there is no forum better than DK, so pointless exersise"

[Bulld0g]

There are so many good, honest, hard working folk on here who deserve a break, and if wasting hard earned cash can be avoided on a product thats rubbish, then surely its a good thing ?

Totally agree. However you wanted to conduct a poll about who was banned from that forum and then conduct another one in a months time.
Why didn't you wait a month and see if the card did what it said, if it didn't then you could have started a thread about the real issue instead .It was obvious people would not just give a yes or no answer .

Polling people about who has been banned, has nothing to do with the sale of the card so how was that supposed to save people from parting with their hard earned cash if they had already bought it ?

[ITS A SCAM !]

The whole point of what i did was to see how many people went ahead and purchased a Tring card on just the say so of A###t. And IF there is no football on Tring, did they dare to complain ? Which would result in a ban and the post being removed ( thats for sure ).
My last post is more or less saying that if there was a place for members to discuss their problem, or previous problems with a certain seller they may offer valuable advice to fellow members to stop them making the same mistake of wasting hard earned cash.
If it does happen that Tring are not showing 3pm footy, there will be many newcomers who have purchased a card because they thought it was a good idea.......But if they did look on here and they found a section what allowed members to share their experiences about sellers freely, without the risk of being banned or the thread removed, they may well see that the person they could be buying from is not that honest and fair.......Ebay might not be a very good example, but would you buy from someone with 50% feedback score ?? Would you buy from someone with 75% feedback score ?? In retrospect its the same with what i am saying....If the buyer is given all the information, then its down to them if they buy it or not.......But if i spent a couple of hundred quid on a card what did not work i would feel very silly indeed because i did not do my research first.....And Dk can offer that advise if we are allowed to talk freely. KIndest regard