DM800hd clone or Vu+ single?

[Manic01]

They will just use other images modified surely. Especially after the last gemini bomb.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

Thats a load of Crap Benny M8.

When you run the authentication Check it gives a code that is generated by the Dream server and displayed on screen of your TV.
Then you have to log onto the Dream website and enter the Code, then It will either Pass or Fail By giving you a Serial Number of your Receiver
The Result on the website then asks you to see if the Serial number matches your Receivers Serial number.

https://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/en/authenticity-test

The authentication does not run directly from the receiver only a Random generated Number appears from the Dream Server.


I am Sorry Jackpot m8, but on every Thread regarding Comparison between the Dreambox & Vu+ or other latly there is nothing more than Scaremongering of the Dreambox been added, I think my above Points were unbiost regarding both receivers you were asking about, I do not like when People start the Scaremongering .

Benny sorry m8 but if its a valid point your making start another Thread, dont hijack this one !

The Question been ask was DM800hd clone or Vu+ single? nothing to do with authenticity-testing etc

I dont think benny meant it like that Alun mate, he doesnt have a dreambox, and probably just came across that and because he doesn't know much about dmm he thought he would let us know incase it was unknown to us...

plus i appreciate your responses, might just stick to the dm800 fo now until the newer dmm's come out

[Curious123]

Getting back to the DM800 V Vu+ thread, on my DM600 I can easily pick up the Digitalb 16E channels but fail miserably on my clone dm800. Do other people have similar woes on their dm800 or Vu+ boxes?

[deffc0n]

VU+ is better for clone DM800.

[Sat-Shop]

Getting back to the DM800 V Vu+ thread, on my DM600 I can easily pick up the Digitalb 16E channels but fail miserably on my clone dm800. Do other people have similar woes on their dm800 or Vu+ boxes?

Absolutely not on the VU+ no, you'll find the tuners on the VU+ SOLO and DUO are superior to the genuine DMM tuners (as I personally beleive is the rest of the hardware), and clone tuners as we all know by now are only ever OK at very best and most of the time far less than OK!

If I were to choose between a DM800 and a SOLO then I would go with the SOLO without doubt, based on the hardware, performance and price.

Would I hold off for the DM800-SE? Personally no, I wouldn't even consider it to be honest, yet another over priced, poorly made receiver from DMM (most likely after all I've only seen the prototype which to be fair is just another black box to see at the moment so I base this on all previous experience with genuine DMM receivers).

Would I pay the bit extra for the VU+ DUO instead of the SOLO, yes most likely this option for me, well worth the extra ?100 or so if you can stretch to it.

As always just personal opinions, yes we sell VU+ so you could say I'm biased but I give this opinion based on previously selling DMM products as well, after I had the last DM500HD back for yet again failing to boot (common problem - have a read up on it) then I decided you know what, I don't want to sell DMM anymore, to expensive and poorly made in most cases and not something I want to be involved with with we now have the VU+ which again I personally beleive to be superior on various levels.

[kakawak]

As always just personal opinions, yes we sell VU+ so you could say I'm biased but I give this opinion based on previously selling DMM products as well, after I had the last DM500HD back for yet again failing to boot (common problem - have a read up on it) then I decided you know what, I don't want to sell DMM anymore, to expensive and poorly made in most cases and not something I want to be involved with with we now have the VU+ which again I personally beleive to be superior on various levels.

im glad i read this cos i was considering buying the dm500hd then decided i was going to hold out for the 800se so it looks like its a vu solo for me. as a first timer the vu duo is a bit much at ?400

regards

[Sat-Shop]

Yep it has been a common problem, who you blame for it, well that's a matter of opinions, DMM will blame image makers, image makers DMM, bottom line is this, I can't trust it to send it out to my customers and know that it'll be OK, the one I had back I have here and I do now have it running again but this is after going through half a dozen different images and even now it'll boot most of the time but sometimes still hangs, I just don't want to sell this to anyone, and beleive me the little profit you make on these things once it's been backwards and forwards with carriers a couple of times I may have well just have given you ?20 from my own pocket to save the hassle!

Anyway this is going a little of topic I realise but just gives you a bit of background as to why I give you the opinions I do, bottom line is we have sold several hundred of the DUO now and only ever had 2 back as faulty, 1 of which was never ever faulty (customer just wanted his money back me thinks), the second of which supposedly had a whistle from the power supply, I kept this one for myself and have never heard this whistle and it still continues to run in my living room to this day no problems at all. I can't actually say we have the same experience with the SOLO yet simply because it's to new really and we haven't had time to tell, so far so good though just have a single one left from the last batch and never had a single one back with problems from all those that we have sold

[benny/9]

I dont think benny meant it like that Alun mate, he doesnt have a dreambox, and probably just came across that and because he doesn't know much about dmm he thought he would let us know incase it was unknown to us...

plus i appreciate your responses, might just stick to the dm800 fo now until the newer dmm's come out

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the purpose of my post was to inform that dreambox were offering this service for users to check if they had a clone and the post was originally said to have come from a dream multimedia spokesman [alpasian karu] the remark about killing clones i think was just added to the post. but for me i wish dreambox would make software that would kill any box that was'nt a original dreambox also if they priced them more reasonable more would buy them and this would get rid of clone boxes. as for not having a dreambox i have a 7020 for quite some time and have been thinking of getting a db hd model once i decide which model,

[rossi2000]

satshop

can you tell me about image support on the solo? i can only really find an image by VTi and then i'm not sure how well it does against the de images which ive used before.

i was thinking to buy a solo but then i see alot more support for the duo. so i may have to fork out the extra for the duo in case of future support. i dont have dual inputs so the duo couldnt be used fully.

[Sat-Shop]

Yes as far as third party image support goes then the SOLO only enjoys support from the VTI team at the moment, this can and probably will change in the future, but right now it's VTI or the original. Personally find the VTI images excellent anyway, it does enough for what I'd want, they are very closely based on the original images with all the added extras we all want, softcams, EPG, skins etc. so for me it does more than enough but I don't think you could deny for the extra ?100 or so for the DUO then if you can stretch to it it's well worth it, support from at least 3 different groups, twin tuner, front panel display, internal HDD option up to 2TB, eSATA option and 3 USB, stayed in this weekend infact and ended up watching football yesterday and today, reminded me just how good the DUO really is!

I am sure more third party support for the SOLO will arrive but in my opinion (and I know others will differ) I am not that bothered about more images, unlike the likes of the Technomate TM-800 the SOLO has done what it stated it would do from day one, it works and works VERY well, only real thing I'd have liked to have seen on the SOLO is an internal HDD option, but that wasn't to be, apart from that is great but if you can afford the extra though go for the DUO, there is a reason each batch that arrives in the UK still sells out 8 months after launch!

[rossi2000]

thanks for your prompt reply

i am mostly concerned about EPG for 7 days or so
and pvr functions, which i guess the solo does from the usb ports.

at the moment i am leaning towards a SOLO mainly due to cost
i am finding it hard to justfy a duo at the moment when a solo can do the same, i dont have dual inputs so thats useless so it seems that the extra cost for me is only for image support, hmmmmm

[Sat-Shop]

I've just fired the SOLO up as it's been a while since I last plugged one in! Flashed with the VTI image and then updated the drivers via the VTI panel and setup as normal for DiSEqC motor then sent over a channel list using Dreambox Edit.

I plugged in a 2GB USB stick formated as FAT32 then issued this command via telenet:

mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb

Then went into the plugins in the SOLO menu and setup to download the Rytec SKY UK EPG data, a couple of mins later and it's now got the full 5 day EPG data populated in the EPG (you can alter the number of days to download, the time it downloads and the sources it uses to download from to suit), very easy to setup, the EPG importer is built into the VTI image.

If you were using another USB drive for PVR functions (which is the best idea) then the default to mount to for this is /media/hdd but you can also change this location if you prefer.

[rossi2000]

thanks alot sat-shop, think i'm gonna go for a solo at some point this month.
what u said is pretty much what i'm after

just 1 thing, do you have to keep the epg on a separate drive? as the solo has only 1 usb, i was wondering if you could store, EPG, PICONS + PVR off the 1 drive?

[Sat-Shop]

You can store everything on one drive no problem, some tend to think it runs better with the picons and EPG data on a USB stick because if you have picons for example on the HDD and the HDD goes to sleep while not in use when you next change channels again there can be a second or so delay while the HDD wakes up again to give access to the picon which if it's on it's own USB stick you shouldn't get (this also depends on the external HDD you are using) but I have and do run everything off one drive on the DUO (SOLO will be no different in this respect) to me is no big deal, to others would probably anoy the hell out of them!

The SOLO has two USB ports by the way, one at the back and one at the front but this one is under the front pull down flap so while it works fine (I've got the USB stick with the EPG data running on it right now) I guess some wouldn't want to use the front port for external USB drives as you won't be able to close the flap while it's plugged in.

[loncell]

i have owned a VU+ DUO for a few months now and its the best ?400 i've spent.running PLI image the HD is top draw quality and the support is fantasic with tonnes of images and plugins to go at.

i did try the dream elite image on it but i noticed a significant difference in quality so i've gone back to PLI.
the timer is fairly easy to use and for flashing the box ? my 7 yr old son did it which means problay a good 3rd on peeps could do it
as me owd fella use to say ;-
"you get exactly what you pay for !" i cant see the point pissin around with clone DM800's when everyone knows there's been long standing issue's with tuners and bootloaders.
spend wise , spend once i say.