Spiderbox, dreambox, what next?

[blueboy510]

HI All,

I have had a TM5400+ with 80cm motorized now for almost a year and I am happy with the football I get now through Bullsat, albeit foreign comm.
I am thinkning of having a play about and get a new box, and I don't really know what the deal is with other systems - I heard a lot about the the range of channels you get with spiderbox - but would the cheaper 5000 with gift give me the same channels as the dearer boxes, without the HD ones of course?
I would like to hear your thoughts, as I don't think I can do much more than I am already doing with the TM + patch (can I access other irdeto channels other than bulsat?)

I would like to get some decent movie channels and footy with english comm.

Sorry for the multiple questions!

[gagzy]

hi mate, i have a spiderbox & well pleased with it. with the gift you get good films in english, football with english & is virtually plug & play. best if you get a motor on your dish. loads of stuff.