Motorised dish problems anyone help please

[ron007]

Hi all
I think this may be an openbox s10 problem and not my dish so i thought i would try here.
Everytime i change satellite the"dish moving" screen comes on but the dish doesnt seem to move.
I then go into antenae setup and motor settings .from there i go to limit setup.I then "go to reference" and leave for 10-15 seconds and the dish moves fine.I have usals set up and my Long and lat is fine.
Anyone have any idea's or is it just a problem with this box?Ive tried firmware 15/08/11 and various others not the latest one though.
I hope you can understand this
Thanks eveyone
Ronnie

[nibblitz]

Im not sure why you're mentioning "limit setup" and "goto reference" ? ... The only things that need to be set on the box are the Log & Lat, then setting all satellites USALS...

[ron007]

Im not sure why you're mentioning "limit setup" and "goto reference" ? ... The only things that need to be set on the box are the Log & Lat, then setting all satellites USALS...

ive set the long and lat and all satellites usals but the dish wont move when i change satellite.If i go limit setup and goto reference thats the only way i can get the dish to go where its meant to.
So if i am watching Thor then switch to Sly on 28.2 the dish dont move and i get no signal on the screen.
I then go into limit setup and goto reference and the dish will move to 28.2 and i will get all channels on 28.2 perfect.

[nibblitz]

Im no sat dish expert, but sounds to me your motor aint setup correctly... So, Zero is 28.2 on your motor, how do you get to Thor if the motor doesnt move?

Dont most people set a due south point to be Zero (reference) on motorised setups?

[ron007]

Im no sat dish expert, but sounds to me your motor aint setup correctly... So, Zero is 28.2 on your motor, how do you get to Thor if the motor doesnt move?

Dont most people set a due south point to be Zero (reference) on motorised setups?

Thanks for the replys Nibb.
Ive not explained myself very well.
The motor is set to due south when i add a new satellite for example thor it will go there fine i blind scan and receive all the channels (i check with various sites to make sure its the right satellite i am pointing at).Now when i add another satellite we will use sly 28.2 for example i blind scan and it will say moving dish and then continue to scan again all channels will come in good with good strength and quality.
Now if i am wathing thor then switch to 28.2 it will say dish moving but the dish dont move i just get the no signal on screen.At this point i then go to limit setup goto reference screen and the dish will move to correct position.

I hope ive explained that a bit better.

[nibblitz]

This is most strange.. Your dish does physically move then.. It will move to the right satellite when selecting to scan for channels on it, but it wont move to that satellite to view channels already scanned on it??? Do you see your dish move? I know you say you've checked sites to make sure you're pointing at the right satellite, but are you sure you're not just scanning the same satellite each time, your box thinking its a different satellite? You are definately able to view Thor channels aswell as Astra2 ? Cause it really sounds like you're set for Diseqc instead of usals.. very weird. I know when you manually add a satellite you have to set usals on all satellites again, as when Ive manually added a new sat it defaults it to diseqc...

[ron007]

Yeah the Dish does physically move ive been out and checked why the wife did the goto reference thing.Yes Thor is deffinately working as is astra 2.I havnt set up usals everytime i add a satellite, but they all say there on usals .I will try that now as that could be the problem
Thanks again nibblitz the help is much appreciated

[hypersonic]

Dish not changing satellite

Ron m8

I?ve had a similar problem with the S9 when I was resetting my box. I found that the satellite postion numbers were duplicated by accident. I had Thor and Hotbird both on position 4. I had initially set Thor on position 4 then moved the dish to find Hotbird and then inadvertently saved it to position 4 instead of position 5 (too much left/right fingerwork). When I had finished the dish always went to the last saved position 4 (Hotbird) when I selected Pos 4. Check each satellite has a different position number.

[sinbrad]

Ok, I'm new to the openbox but I do have another box which is very similar. I am using diseq on the other box without problems, it's the usals that causes me problems where the motor stops and starts while moving.

Anyway I connected up the openbox to the dish/motor and when I select diseq I lose signal, however if I select usals after a few seconds I get a good signal and start to receive picture etc. So in a way I am getting a similar problem to the OP except the opposite way around. When I set no motor and leave it on diseq or even usals there is no loss of signal. I havent input my lat and long as I intended to use diseq and there is no need to only when using usals do you need to put lat and long?

Can it be that when I select diseq the openbox is somehow shooting off to find something else?

[ron007]

Thanks for help guy's Sin its the same sort of thing for me like you say but the otherway round.
Hypersonic i have it set up for usals on all Satellites basically because i havnt a clue how to use Diseq.Can i use usals and send the dish in the right direction and then switch it to Diseq to fine tune? i think thats how Diseq works.If i set each sat to Diseq and store a number for each one should it then move automaticlly to each position?Again thanks for input guys it all helps

[nibblitz]

I always assumed if a box & dish motor can use Usals then its such a doddle to setup.. Put log & lat in your box, enable usals, set the dish angles as per dish instructions for your log&lat, point the dish south best you can, set zero on the motor itself... Then use your box to drive it with usals to Thor, tweak the dish for best signal on Thor, Job done. If your pole & brackets are straight you'll then have no probs driving to anyother sat on the arc... I checked the setup on my box, I only have log & lat entered, all sats set as USALS, anything else to do with diseqc (like limits and reference) is disabled.. It just works..

[sinbrad]

My problem is that my motor is quite old but has been reliable and it was purely designed to be used with diseq, that's the way I've always used it. Will get everything running with usals first and then enter each satellite with it's own unique position and will see how that goes?

Hopefully something will click into place Ron?

[ron007]

I always assumed if a box & dish motor can use Usals then its such a doddle to setup.. Put log & lat in your box, enable usals, set the dish angles as per dish instructions for your log&lat, point the dish south best you can, set zero on the motor itself... Then use your box to drive it with usals to Thor, tweak the dish for best signal on Thor, Job done. If your pole & brackets are straight you'll then have no probs driving to anyother sat on the arc... I checked the setup on my box, I only have log & lat entered, all sats set as USALS, anything else to do with diseqc (like limits and reference) is disabled.. It just works..

Well thats exactly how i set it up mate.Thats why i think its a box problem because when i use goto reference from motor setup screen it will go to the right satellite and get a perfect signal.I'm gonna spend some time playing about with it today if i get a chance.Its as if when changing satelitte when watching tv the box dosnt send the signal to the motor.If i try to change satellite through menu screen it works ok.

[ron007]

Ok a quick update .Seems to be working ok now.
i went into antenae setup and set each satellite to diseq 1.2 and give each satellite a different number i then went back into quick set up and put every satellite on usals.Its seems to work ok now .I am thinking as was said earlier the satellites had the same number on diseq .I know it shouldnt make a difference but it all seems ok now got 5 satellites set up i will try adding a few of one at either end of the scale and see how i get on.Thanks again everyone for help its much appreciated.

[hypersonic]

Duplicate sat position number

Glad you got it sorted m8 ~ Posting how you fixed it is useful to other DK openbox users.