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  • uzi1993
    Newbie
    • Aug 2013
    • 10

    #1

    anonymous information maybe the end maybe not?

    Seen this on another forum!!
    Not a huge contributor on here, but am a constant user to keep updated and abreast of things, I'm not a server owner or a programmer etc, just an enthusiast who read the old threads earlier and didn't respond to any of the guesswork that was going on as basically that was all it was, uneducated guesswork.

    I know there was mention above of not posting messages regarding "My mate said this or that" etc, but I do actually know two people personally who are involved with Oscam work and programming, one of them whom I know from my university days is directly involved with the upkeep and admin at the site "Streamboard" also, there's no info more up to date than the info he has access to and that is fact.

    In an earlier thread that has since been deleted there was an actual link to Streamboard, anybody who checked it would have seen that it went into the actual technical side of what was happening, not random guesswork, having had a conversation with somebody directly involved I can confirm a few things, everything that I'm about to write will be updated and confirmed through Streamboard in due course once everything has been finalized, the only reason I'm taking the time to do this is because of the guesswork and scaremongering that's been going on, although unintentional that's pretty much all that's happened since yesterday so some facts might help put some folk at ease to an extent.

    The facts as to what is actually happening were touched upon in the above mentioned link and that is that there is nothing within the Entitlement Control Message (ECM) that is affecting things right now, so all talk of ecm changes are just nonsense, as is transponder talk.

    The problem exists within the CW (Control Word)....The actual encryption data itself

    Now this is where the technical side of it went way over my head during my conversation, but the laymans terms that I got was that the encryption has not changed in the same way it did for HD or for the same way it did with Sky Italia, the encryption is compatible with existing Sky cards, including the old white 09's which is where local cards and shared cache's get the required data to make card sharing possible, so that also makes the talk of changing over Thompson Receivers to Sky +HD nonsense also, its completely irrelevant.

    What they have done is quite clever apparently but it will 100% be worked out, the changes that will be required to be made will all be within the "oscam.config" which is basically the standard configuration file that servers use to run and make this all possible, so server owners will be getting access to an updated config file once completed and the missing channels will be back.

    This is as close to the horses mouth as you will get and I have been told categorically that this is absolutely NOT the end of cardsharing as we know it and when the config is complete and uploaded things will continue as they were once servers have been updated to the new config.

    There is a but though and that is the reasoning behind what has happened the last few days, the general feeling is that Sky were testing a few channels to see what the result was, that unfortunately is not true, Sky and anybody with a certain level of understanding of encryptions would know that no test is required, the results of the changes that were made are set in stone and known before they were put in place therefore there is no test required or needed.

    That is where the but comes in because what has happened is fixable with a configuration change, Sky and the programming engineers working with Sky know that just as much as the guys who deal with oscam, they know its fixable and can be worked around, so the actual reason behind it is a mystery.

    Its not just to disrupt or to annoy, that much is clear, but the real reason is unclear at the moment as the changes they have made don't really relate to anything they can build on long term as once worked around that's it, it cant be implemented into a different part of the whole procedure so its not clear why they did it or what the overall goal of it was but its obviously something much bigger and more complex, whether its something that could happen next week or next year nobody knows, but its clear that some serious thought and investment has been put in to this and its one of the biggest changes or moves that Sky have made to in a long time, so the general feeling from someone directly involved is that something much bigger is on the way, but as above the timescale is not known.
    Sky have obviously always taken it seriously and attempted to stop it but it looks as though they have upped the effort on it and are seriously taking steps to put an end to it long term, or at least until the technology to work around it comes to light.

    I know some people on here will no doubt rubbish everything that I have put down here because I'm not directly involved with oscam or servers and because I'm not a TK Veteran etc etc, but what I've put down will be available through streamboard in due course and a lot of it already is there to read up on, so please take the time to research a little into the technical facts of what is going on and with what I've tried to explain here and hopefully I've helped put some minds at ease a little.
  • Mee?kat
    Top Poster
    • Mar 2010
    • 152

    #2
    Originally posted by uzi1993

    This is as close to the horses mouth as you will get and I have been told categorically that this is absolutely NOT the end of cardsharing as we know it and when the config is complete and uploaded things will continue as they were once servers have been updated to the new config.


    Not trying to rubbish anything you have heard mate but a new config will not sort this,well i dont think so anyway, i thought it was a transponder issue but lincsat quickly showed me that it wasn't that,,, so it shows how much i know z...if it was a config edit i think we might have seen it by now

    Also there is many other providers sharing right now so your right,,it aint the end of cardsharing whether sly goes or not
    Last edited by Mee?kat; 1 April, 2017, 17:44.

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    • CrAcKeDuPII
      Newbie
      • Oct 2013
      • 19

      #3
      Thanks for your post uzi1993. Have you heard anything more?

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      • lincsat
        DK Veteran
        • Jun 2008
        • 1228

        #4
        There is work going on and patches have been posted on the OScam forum, so far they are all unsuccessful though

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        • chrissafc
          Newbie
          • Aug 2013
          • 2

          #5
          tests happening tonight

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          • gingeee85
            Top Poster
            • Jan 2012
            • 197

            #6
            well at least there trying to work around it haha

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            • chuckles53
              DK Veteran
              • Jul 2008
              • 320

              #7
              any update on tests guys

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              • joe516
                DK Veteran
                • Mar 2008
                • 1000

                #8
                Originally posted by chuckles53
                any update on tests guys
                Taken from another forum Update Patch has been complied and integrated into oscam which ran and found msising channels on card but did not clear so the reader-videoguard2.c file need re coding next - big task.............. we have 3 oscam coders and other working on this so a fix it is still being developed. Hopefully by Monday we should have some data to analsyse and a clearer picture
                Last edited by joe516; 8 April, 2017, 16:02.
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                • chuckles53
                  DK Veteran
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 320

                  #9
                  Hi guys are they any further with the fix

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                  • digicon
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 8261

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chuckles53
                    Hi guys are they any further with the fix
                    No! afraid not

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                    • chuckles53
                      DK Veteran
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 320

                      #11
                      Are the guys still no further with the fix.

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                      • joe516
                        DK Veteran
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1000

                        #12
                        Originally posted by chuckles53
                        Are the guys still no further with the fix.
                        Update 15/4/17
                        Just a quick update for those who are not following in the Oscam forum.
                        A couple of new coders have recently joined the debate over there and there is now a little group attacking this from a few different angles.
                        The development and testing is a slow process but they are sticking with it at present to try and find the fix we all need.
                        They have made some progress so far but because the options of where the problem lies are so vast it may be a long drawn out quest to possibly resolve the issues.
                        So not really that much change but at least we know they are still working on it
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                        • chuckles53
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 320

                          #13
                          Let's hope it's sorted before the fight

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                          • gingeee85
                            Top Poster
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 197

                            #14
                            oh aye forgot about the fight, im lucky ill be able to get on polsat boxing but would prefer english commentry, is bo on the dead transponder list then

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                            • hammers2009
                              Top Poster
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 106

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gingeee85
                              oh aye forgot about the fight, im lucky ill be able to get on polsat boxing but would prefer english commentry, is bo on the dead transponder list then
                              Rtl on 19east are showing it on there free channel to ... but in german


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