Motorised dish problem

[seanyboy81]

hi

Wonder If any one can help been trying to fix my motor since it blew off alinement after the bad weather at the start off the year and decided to go up and have a look at it today.After a few hours moving it up and down and ajusting the motor Ive managed to get 28.2 (997 channels and snr shows as 43% and 23.5 (251 channels and 39% snr did have about 100 channels on 26. but was poor signal been trying to get 19.2 and 13 which i used to beable to get no problem but cant seem to get them? I have a dm500 hd and a techomate 2600 motor and 1m dish. been trying to use usals but wont work so using my horizan meter to manually lock to what ever sats I can and tune them in.Wonder if anyone can help me getting the other sats I think im either to high or low on the arce thats why im only picking up 2 sats and both with low snr? what should the snr be for 28.2 23.5 19.2 and 13.

Any help would be appreciated tahks!!

[Nutsandbolts]

Hi. You need to adjust the dish slightly up to get Astra and Hotbird. To do this just move the motor tail up and tighten the bolts. I have a TM2600 motor and can tell you that are very good and accurate. Also with a 1m dish you should be getting high signal levels for the satellites you mentioned. To get the arc spot on you may need to adjust the dish and motor settings a few times until you get it right. Try and use USALS as this will make it easier to find the other satellites . If you need further advice please ask.
Regards.

[seanyboy81]

thanks for the speedy reply
When you say move the motor tail do you mean move the motor up the pole and tighting it.whats the best sat to start with I was using 28.2 which was 0 degrees but my signal was only around 43% snr when it should be around 90% so thats what makes me think that its off the arc. what other snr %should I get with the other sats roughly? tryed usals but wont work at all so just trying it manual cause once they are tuned in they swich between sat fine when I switch channel.gonna give it a try today later
thanks for your help

[digicon]

If you think its blown out of alignment then all that will need adjusting is the whole motor and dish assembly from left to right until you maximise signal.

'0' degrees on the Motor scale does not indicate a satellite position it is there for you to aim the '0' mark in your true south direction roughly, once you have done this move the motor to 1 west and you should see the marker move off the '0' position very slightly now use your Horizon meter to align it correctly and then tighten up the back motor clamps.

Your DM500HD should have no problem with USALS settings if your unsure of yours either use Dishpointer .com to find your Lon and Lat position alternatively if you have an iphone or android based handset the built in compass on these sometimes will tell you the same details.

[Nutsandbolts]

[QUOTE=seanyboy81;1583694]thanks for the speedy reply
When you say move the motor tail do you mean move the motor up the pole and tighting it.whats the best sat to start with I was using 28.2 which was 0 degrees but my signal was only around 43% snr when it should be around 90% so thats what makes me think that its off the arc. what other snr %should I get with the other sats roughly? tryed usals but wont work at all so just trying it manual cause once they are tuned in they swich between sat fine when I switch channel.gonna give it a try today later
Hi. On the TM2600 motor there are two bolts which give you the reading for latitude and elevation. You need to loosen these two bolts only slightly and move the tail a fraction up and then tighten the bolts. Do not adjust the dish at this point. Now do the following:
1)Using USALS do as Digicon said ie enter your latitude and longitude figures.
2) In your receiver motor menu send dish to zero mark by using the GOTO REFERENCE option. Check by looking at the dial should be pointing to zero.
3) Using USALS send dish to 1 west or 0.8 west depending on your receiver. The dish will only move a fraction from the
zero mark.
4) Select a channel like BBC WORLD NEWS on 1 west
5) Now slightly loosen the dish on the motor tail and move it slowly left and right and up and down until you get a picture for BBC WORLD NEWS channel. When picture perfect tighten dish up. Then do a scan of the satellite to see how many channels you get.
6) When you are happy with 1 west then send it to another satellite of your choice ie HOTBIRD at 13 east. At this point USALS will know the distance between 1 west and the other satellites and move the dish accordingly. Remember for USALS it is important to get the first satellite setup correctly otherwise it wont work.
7) Check on Hotbird for signals etc and if ok then send it to another satellite . If you dont get a signal then you need to adjust the dish slightly until you do. You may need to adjust the dish a few times until you get it perfect.

Hope this makes sense and give it a go and see what happens. If possible get a relative or friend to give you a hand .
Regards.

[seanyboy81]

thanks for the replys Ive not had a chance to get back up on the roof as its been raining last couple of days but gonna try and get up at the weekend and try them out.so no doubt I`l be back on here asking for more advice over the weekend Im in central Scotland take it I`l have no problem getting 1w with a 1m dish?
thanks

[digicon]

thanks for the replys Ive not had a chance to get back up on the roof as its been raining last couple of days but gonna try and get up at the weekend and try them out.so no doubt I`l be back on here asking for more advice over the weekend Im in central Scotland take it I`l have no problem getting 1w with a 1m dish?
thanks

As a good friend would say that will come 'Boomin' in LOL

[seanyboy81]

thanks for all the replys
was up on my roof at the weekend and managed to get 28.2 23.5 and 19.2 all tuned in but still struggling to get 13. and any other sats surley I must be on the arc now if i can pick up 3 sats? Im still not using usalls as cant get it to work but managed to tune the sats with manually moving dish and saving pos.Anybody and ideas why im not picking up 13?

[Nutsandbolts]

thanks for all the replys
was up on my roof at the weekend and managed to get 28.2 23.5 and 19.2 all tuned in but still struggling to get 13. and any other sats surley I must be on the arc now if i can pick up 3 sats? Im still not using usalls as cant get it to work but managed to tune the sats with manually moving dish and saving pos.Anybody and ideas why im not picking up 13?

Hi. To get 13 east you need to move motor tail slightly up. You can try the following:
a) Set receiver to Astra 19.2 east. Make sure you get pictures etc.
b) From SAT list select Hotbird. If using Diseqc dish will not move as position not stored as according to you. It will stay on 19.2
c) From Hotbird select a FTA channel like RTPI or BBC WORLD NEWS. Make sure that frequencies are correct
d) Using the fine tune button on remote( on TM's it is the blue button) manually move the dish west a few clicks at a time until you see a picture appearing. If you dont get a picture after about 15-20 clicks then your dish is out of alignment. You then need to move motor tail up a fraction. If you want to try USALS do the following:
a) Send dish to 28.2 using Diseqc. Make sure pictures are ok.
b) Set motor setting to USALS. Make sure you have entered your location figures for latitude and longitude. Send motor to zero (GOTO REFERENCE) . Motor should stop at zero.
c) Using USALS send dish to 28.2.
d) When motor stops check motor dial to see what position it has stopped. Hopefully it should be around the 28 east mark.
e) All you need to do now is manually move the dish left or right until you get a picture on your tv. When picture is perfect tighten the dish up. Check the other channels are working ok.
f) USALS is now setup for 28.2 east and should know where the other satellites are. Send it to another satellite and see if it works. Remember that you may need to fine tune the alignment a few times until you get it spot on. Also make sure you have correct frequencies for the satellites otherwise you wont get a signal. Hope this makes sense

Regards.

[joeman]

hi there im not a pro sat installer but i have set up a few motorised sats in ireland first of all make sure the mount the sat dish is on is level if you have moved the motor then u need to set your latitude and longitude on the motor for your location check on Satellite Finder / Dish Alignment Calculator with Google Maps | DishPointer.com when you get all that done send your dish to 0 go back to Satellite Finder / Dish Alignment Calculator with Google Maps | DishPointer.com and find line of sight for 0.8w intelsat thor and send your dish to that sat then try to line you dish up with that sat from your house when you get a lock on that sat you should be on the arc get the best signal as said above tighten up everything then scan all the sats you want back to 28 deg using usals should pick up all u want hope this helps

[seanyboy81]

Thanks again to everyone above that posted help eventually got my dish working all post were appreciated thanks!