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  • t10000
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 23

    #1

    NEWBIE finds Excellent help/guide !!!

    Hi all,

    For the last couple of weeks i have been trying to find good but simple infomation that does not fly over the top of my simple head. I think i have found such help which will be of help to me and hopefully to many of you other newbies .

    Hope this helps !!!

    See Below article !!!
    Last edited by t10000; 28 June, 2009, 17:01. Reason: no links to other forums.........!
  • .: JaCkPoT :.
    Retired Sat TV Addict
    • Aug 2008
    • 5607

    #2
    mate NO LINKS to EXTERNAL BOARDS!
    REMOVE LINK


    Here is the post..


    Why Dreambox?
    =============

    First, you no longer need to play around with expensive CAM modules and smart cards and programmers. Finished.

    Second, you can record TV material direct to disk. Either an internal disk or one on a PC connected to the Dreambox by LAN.

    Third, it is fairly well built, has a good tuner, features all the things you find on a normal receiver plus a LAN connection, a USB port, a digital output, a modem port, a CF slot, a CAM slot, two smartcard slots.

    Fourth, it is constantly evolving and benefits from the support of hundreds of bits of software and files from a large community of developers.

    And many more important features described below.

    Which Dreambox?
    ===============

    Look on any forum and you will see most users have the 500 or the 7020.

    I just asked a few dealers how many 500s and 7020s got returned for repairs. No hesitation, the 7020 wins.

    You can buy a diskless 7020 to start with, once you are familiar with the box just pop in a hard disk and you can record digital quality right on the 7020.

    The first thing you need to do is load the software into your 7020. This means finding an image.

    What is an image?
    =================

    An image in Dreambox lingo is firmware. Firmware is the software that gets loaded in the receiver, including an operating system, and that makes it behave the way it does, receiving TV stations and responding to your remote control.

    Is the original preloaded image not good enough?
    ================================================

    Dreambox comes preloaded with a basic Linux-based image for doing just that. So why do I need a new image? With the preloaded image you will only be able to use the Dreambox for conventional stuff like receiving FTA channels, or subscription channels using a CAM and a card, like most receivers do.

    There are "better" images available that will allow you to do more with less, more or less, or something like that.

    While there are many good images around, most people find that the most useful one is Gemini; it also gets updated regularly. By adding the Gemini image you can do many new things, such as downloading directly from internet all kinds of useful files, including extra features, add-ons, EMUs (emulators that behave like the plugin CAM modules) and settings files, utilities, configurations, even something called keys (you will no longer need a key to get into your house or car). Once installed, all these great Gemini features are accessible from the remote control using the blue button.

    What do you need to get started?
    ================================

    - a properly installed Dreambox 7020 connected to a well aimed (motorized) dish.
    - a PC
    - a good broadband internet connection using a router,
    - a local area network (LAN) with an Ethernet cable to connect your router to the Dreambox, and
    - a USB Stick
    - software

    USB stick
    =========

    You definitely need one, you could load images on the onboard flash memory, but you take a big chance doing that, and you will quickly run out of space; don't risk messing up the local flash memory, you don't want to send the box back to the shop. You also dont want to put images on a hard disk, hard disks eventually break down and you don't want to go through the reinstall all over again. A USB stick works, it is safe. An alternative might be a CF card, procedure is almost identical.

    Pick a USB stick with at least 128M capacity, a 64M will not allow you to correctly install Gemini image. Pick a decent brand, something recognizable, not some cheap noname brand.

    LAN
    ===

    Never mind the serial cable, you will never need it, and if you use it you risk messing things up. Use the LAN, connect an Ethernet cable from the 7020 to your home network, directly to your broadband router, as you would do with any other computer. I do not suggest you try going wireless, it can be done but it will give you no end of grief (too long to explain, I gave up on wireless for the 7020).

    The recent 7020 models have DHCP, contrary to everything that is said in the manuals. This is the easiest to set up, but your IP address may vary every time you boot, so each time you want to FTP to your 7020 you need to check the assigned address. It is best to skip DHCP and assign a fixed IP address manually. More below.

    Software
    ========

    With an "open" Linux box like Dreambox the number of available or necessary software bits is incredible, and for that reason you may spend a lot of time trying stuff only to find out there is a simpler way. After hours of fiddling, and with the help of the guys on the forum, I now have a good setup, and here is my advice.

    All you need is the following software, downloadable here or on the net:

    - Gemini image, most recent version (3.60 at time of writing), make sure it is the version for Dreambox 7020
    go to the Database - Image to 7020 section of this forum
    - DreamboxEdit settings editor, most recent version (2.02.00 at time of writing)
    go to the Database - Software section of this forum
    - FlashWizard Pro programmer for Dreambox, most recent version (6.3 at time of writing, does not need DreamFlash)
    go to the Database - Software section of this forum
    - Satellite channel settings file:
    go to the Settings forum
    - an FTP client, this is a program that allows you to transfer files between your computer and your Dreambox. If you don't have one yet go download FileZilla.

    Anything else, like EMUs, Cams, scripts can be downloaded through the Dreambox so don't bother downloading to your computer.

    Getting started
    ===============

    So, you have taken care of the shopping list above, and you have downloaded the software. Your dish is set up properly, and you are ready to go.

    Insert your USB Stick, connect the Dreambox 7020 to the antenna coax, and connect it to the LAN through Ethernet cable, and of course to the mains 240V ac.

    Turn the box on, wait for the boot, you will be prompted to enter some basic settings like time etc.. If necessary use the remote control go to MENU and pick Setup (4 over to the left), then System Settings to adjust time.

    Set up the Dreambox for your particular antenna and LNBs: from MENU pick Setup > Service Searching > Satellite Configuration, and pick your situation, you can have one satellite (one LNB), two or four satellites using DISEqC switch for multi-LNB antennas, or "many satellites via DISEqC rotor".

    For a motorized antenna, I do not recommend the cheap DISEqC rotors like Stab or Nokia H.H, if you want motorized go for the real thing using a polar mount, a motorized jack actuator and a DISEqC 1.2 positioner like the Aston DS-200, the entire setup will cost you ot much more than a crappy H-H rotor. You can control your positioner using these setup menus.

    Set up IP address for Dreambox: Use the MENU button, go to Setup > Expert Setup > Communication Setup and make sure you have LAN and DHCP selected. Reboot by going to MENU > Shutdown > Restart and wait for reboot, then go back to Communication Setup and check out the IP address, it will be something like 192.168.0.8, write it down. Be aware that this can change each time you reboot or resart your router, to avoid this it is best to disable DHCP and assign a fixed IP address.

    To assing a fixed IP address go to the menu, disable DHCP and enter an IP address that is outside of your router's DHCP range; for example, if your router assignes addresses 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.99, then assign something like 192.168.1.222 (replace the last number with 222 or a number between 200 and 254). If you don't know how to read your router's DHCP range, then check out the address previously assigned by DHCP which you wrote down earlier (in the example above, 192.168.0.8) and replace the last number with 222.

    Check connection to LAN: go to your PC and from your browser (cool people never use Internet Explorer and only use Firefox) enter a URL using "" followed by the address you wrote down in the previous step (for example, ()), enter the default user name "root" and password "dreambox" if you have everything set up correctly you will get a Dreambox screen showing the channel settings, you can use this to control the Dreambox, much like the remote control.

    Load satellite settings: start DreamboxEdit, open the settings file you downloaded earlier, you will see all the channels listed on the big window on the left, and all the bouquets listed on the right hand window. The middle window shows the contents of each bouquet as you click on it on the right window. You can modify the contents, deleting channels or adding them (right click). What I do is create a few of my own custom bouquets of favourites, more or less one per satellite, and move them to the top of the list for easy access, then I drag my favourite channels from the various bouquets into my own favourites. Anyhow you can edit later, to start with just use the file as is, you can go back later and change it and reload.

    In DreamboxEdit, press Options, under the first Profiles tab enter the IP address of your Dreambox, then go to Advanced tab and tick "Display Reboot Dreambox option on FTP screen". Click the Save button and now press the FTP button. Press the "Send files to Dreambox" button, this puts the various files onto temporary storage in the Dreambox, then press "Reload settings on Dreambox" to get the settings activated, this takes a while so be patient, once it confirms that it is done, press "Reboot Dreambox".

    Check reception: once rebooted, you should be able to use your remote control to change channels (use the UP and DOWN arrows to get the channels list page, use the blue button to pick the bouquet, then pick channel). Check reception is OK on FTA channels. You are now using the original image (firmware) of the Dreambox.

    Prepare to load a new image into the Dreambox's USB Stick: Start FlashWizard Pro and go to the lower Configuration and Utilities button, under IP enter the IP address of your Dreambox again and under "Device to use (Multiboot)" tick USB. Might as well check for updates with the button on the lower right.

    Format and mount your USB stick: under Utilities, do a Format USB, and then Mount USB. If something goes wrong, your USB stick may not be compatible.

    Install the Gemini image: Now go to "Install or remove a firmware in MULTIBOOT" using the middle button on the left. Tick "Smart settings copy from active image" so the previously loaded settings will work when you boot on Gemini, and tick "Set new image as default choice on FlashWizard Pro boot menu" so by default the Dreambox will boot Gemini. Press the folder button on the right and look for your Gemini file. When you pick the Gemini file and confirm, the image will be sent to the USB key in your Dreambox, and your Dreambox will reboot.

    At reboot, wait for it as it is quite slow, you will get a prompt to boot either the original DB 7020 Flashimage 2.60 or the Gemini image, with the menu by default on the latter, so press OK. If you do nothing, after a certain delay the machine will boot what you set as the default image (Gemini). At first things will look just like before, except that the blue button now brings up some new important features in something called the Blue Panel.

    Congratulations, you now have a very powerful satellite receiver capable of some magic things.

    Enabling the magic
    ==================

    First, load an EMU so you can avoid using CAM modules and cards. The best one is in my opinion is called "MGcamd", go to the Blue Panel (use blue button) pick Addons, go to "download and install" and pick "cam", choose the latest Camd (at time of writing, 1.24) and confirm.

    Second, load the camd keys, these are used to replace your house keys and your car keys, as mentioned before. Keyless locks I think they call them. The open doors. ;-)
    Go to the Satankeybundle section of this forum and look for the latest key files, usually they comes in two formats:
    - the *.tar.zip file is intended to be unzipped on your PC, do so, you will see a "var" directory containing "keys" and "scce" directories, use your FTP client to transfer the contents of the these two directories into the corresponding "/usr/keys" and "/usr/scce" directories of your dreambox; remember, the default username is "root" and the password "dreambox".
    - the *.tar.bz2 file can be FTP's directly to the "/tmp" directory in your dreambox, then launched from the blue button (addons,manual install).
    For MGcamd you only need the "SoftCam.key" file.

    Third, start the cam, from the Blue Panel use the green button.

    Enjoy!

    Especially if you have more than one cam, you can set up the auto-cam feature, this is useful if you have many bouquets requiring different cams. Personally I use only one, but some bouquets are picky. You can set the name of the cam that will be loaded for each bouquet. From the Blue Panel press the red button, set the default cam (example, MGcamd), this will be used unless otherwise specified by the procedures below.

    If you need to assign special cams (emulators or even physical plugin CAMs) to a bouquet or even to a specific channel, go to that bouquet or channel and from the Blue Panel press the red button, pick the new cam in "Set new Cam", and assign it by pressing green button "add(pr)" to assign cam to that bouquet (Provider) or yellow button "add(ch)" to assign cam to that channel.

    That's it!

    Have fun.

    Thanks to satandream for this info

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    • opsmonkey
      V.I.P. Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 5379

      #3
      hang on a minute.. you were a complete technofobe last week.. could even understand after being told 3 times that a dreambox doesnt open sky uk, you didnt even know what an image was.. and now you can undersatand all the above.. most of which can be found on this site.. i smell a rat.. i think your looking to poach users and direct them to another sat site with your link

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      • t10000
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 23

        #4
        Hi Opsmonkey.

        Wrong wrong wrong.

        With my little knowlege and your Forum i can slowly but surely make my way through a structured list of information eg A - Z with some slight adjustments. For your info i am at the section:

        'enter the default user name "root" and password "dreambox" if you have everything set up correctly you will get a Dreambox screen showing the channel settings'

        And you know what it actually worked !!

        Tonight i intend hopefully to find out why my free winzip software will not Unzip my Gemini 4.2 ( i understand its not good to install above the 4.2 version . Is this correct ? ) i may have to look for a new unzipper or i may have a bad 4.2 version )
        I know its slow and painfull to those in the know , but i will succeed !!
        Call me an old fart but when you say FLASH i say DOWNLOAD ( flash to me means something to do with lightening or a dirty raincoat !! )

        I know the above is not using my Black Box / 500s but i have taken this into account and so far Ok.

        Wish me luck

        HAY HO SILVER AND AWAY (I think thats from the lone ranger ? )

        update later or tomorrow

        Thanks

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        • opsmonkey
          V.I.P. Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 5379

          #5
          you need to bin off winzip and get WinRAR.. here

          Winzip does not open .rar files.. 90% of zipped files here and on the internet are now in .rar format

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          • t10000
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 23

            #6
            Hi

            Thanks for that opsmonkey !! but i stumbled on a nifty little program call 'justzipit' and it seems to work so i will stick with it.

            Ok my next challenge seems to be to find a 'channel list' for astra 19deg and astra 28 deg . which will be installed some how onto the Dreamboxedit program i have downloaded.
            (By the way although my dish is pionting towards Astra 28 , i can get astra 19 on the tv - I know i have a uni lnb but i though uni meant it could pickup any one satillite .)
            Any way the search is on!!!

            Thanks

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            • t10000
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 23

              #7
              Ok you're correct about WINrar i need this to download any of the channel listings i have found so far on the forum.
              I am stuck at the downloading / upoloading of the channel lists to the dreambox. message states :

              no 'services or lamedb file' .

              Can any one explain what i am doing/missing out ?

              Frustration is a horrible thing !!!!!!

              Thanks

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              • Curious123
                V.I.P. Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 2591

                #8
                Originally posted by t10000
                Ok you're correct about WINrar i need this to download any of the channel listings i have found so far on the forum.
                I am stuck at the downloading / upoloading of the channel lists to the dreambox. message states :

                no 'services or lamedb file' .

                Can any one explain what i am doing/missing out ?

                Frustration is a horrible thing !!!!!!

                Thanks
                You must be missing the satellite.xml file in var/etc or var/tuxbox. Not sure which image you are using but sometimes it is easier to download a preconfigured channel list such as the capatins settings use that on your dreambox.

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                • t10000
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 23

                  #9
                  Hi

                  found problem !! I had to go to the OPEN FOLDER icon and savethe folder there first before then going to the FTP icon.

                  Thanks moving slowly on.

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                  • t10000
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 23

                    #10
                    Hi all,

                    I have a IMAGE. seems to be working ok . But trying to find where the listing which was downloaded is and to what use it is ?

                    (Have downloaded listings from forum for sat location 28.2 )

                    Will investigate !!!

                    Thanks

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                    • norton1blue
                      Newbie
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2

                      #11
                      Originally posted by t10000
                      Hi all,

                      For the last couple of weeks i have been trying to find good but simple infomation that does not fly over the top of my simple head. I think i have found such help which will be of help to me and hopefully to many of you other newbies .

                      Hope this helps !!!

                      See Below article !!!
                      most help i have found so far, thanks. shame the link was removed as i think you have found a winner, i feel as though im going in circles with no one wanting to point me in the right direction. cheers mate

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                      • .: JaCkPoT :.
                        Retired Sat TV Addict
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 5607

                        #12
                        Originally posted by norton1blue
                        most help i have found so far, thanks. shame the link was removed as i think you have found a winner, i feel as though im going in circles with no one wanting to point me in the right direction. cheers mate
                        i copied the post mate... (see post number 2 for the infomation that was in the link)

                        Last edited by Dreamer; 2 July, 2009, 21:14. Reason: coloured text added to make more understandable

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                        • t10000
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 23

                          #13
                          Hi all,
                          I thought i was the Lone Ranger trying to find the NEWBIES holy grail of how to get this new box in front of me to work . Thanks for your comments Norton1blue. But its nice to see i have added a small contribution to this forum. (Thanks for your comments Norton1blue.) I must say that it is a good structured letter that will help all us NEWBIEs, but along the way the author has skipped occasionally from A to C so look out for this when its not working and clumps of hair appear between your fingers.
                          Im still not sure if the Channel list download worked correctly for me but hey compared to where i was 2 weeks ago who cares i will come back to this section at a later date.

                          To all us old farts: its not who gets there 1st but who can cross the line !!!!

                          Thanks

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                          • t10000
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 23

                            #14
                            Hi all,

                            Im not sure if i need to follow the last section of the guide,('Enabling the magic') as i have not seen this mentioned in any other postings. (As the guide is a few years old now i am assuming this may not be required any more)

                            If so i bid you all a farewell as i move onto the next part of the holy grail (S*y Sp**ts via cardsharing )which is not spoken about on the forum .

                            Once i have acheived this i may return with 'Tonto' and undate the guide above which has helped me on my first steps.

                            Thanks to you all !!!!

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                            • opsmonkey
                              V.I.P. Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 5379

                              #15
                              good luck getting sky sports.. maybe after you have wasted hours of your time you maybe more inclined to beleive people who have been doing this for years..

                              Your not going to get Sky Sports, for one you have nothing to share.. Secondly if you choose to pay for it the quality will be awful as NDS doesnt take well to sharing..

                              As mentioned before Sky Sports show around 80 Premier league matches a year.. European Broadcasters like Nova GR, Digitalb, Canal+, Digital+ and Premiere show a combined 350 live matches..

                              But you wont listen so good luck chasing your tail and opening Sky for 30 seconds at a time before it freezes and jumps

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