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  • skronk
    Top Poster
    • Sep 2010
    • 188

    #1

    External HDD in DM800SE

    Hi all,

    I have fitted an old 500gb Hdd from my SkyHD box in external enclosure to my 800se.Formatted NTFS.
    It has its own power supply. I switch this off at night. I noticed when switched on the next day, the drive needs initialized again as the 800se can't find it. Do I have to leave the drive on permanently or what ?

    Thanks
  • cactikid
    V.I.P. Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 12017

    #2
    not 100% sure but some drives i have are on all the time even if box is powered off,if you are not powering off box also it may not see the drive,or if box is rebooted it may see it then,it may be a scenario to try different ways,i am told by powering on and off hard drive is when most faults occur.

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    • skronk
      Top Poster
      • Sep 2010
      • 188

      #3
      Originally posted by cactikid
      not 100% sure but some drives i have are on all the time even if box is powered off,if you are not powering off box also it may not see the drive,or if box is rebooted it may see it then,it may be a scenario to try different ways,i am told by powering on and off hard drive is when most faults occur.
      A bit of a nightmare.

      Yesterday I record 2 movies (after having to initialize again). Record the movies no problem.

      Today, I can watch the movies but cannot record.

      In timer I can see what I want to record but status says "waiting"

      The recording should have started 1 hour ago !

      If I didn't live in a bungalow I would throw this thing out the window

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      • micflair
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 275

        #4
        Originally posted by skronk
        A bit of a nightmare.

        Yesterday I record 2 movies (after having to initialize again). Record the movies no problem.

        Today, I can watch the movies but cannot record.

        In timer I can see what I want to record but status says "waiting"

        The recording should have started 1 hour ago !

        If I didn't live in a bungalow I would throw this thing out the window
        Must be dark in your bungalow with no windows!

        Did you try the following combo:

        1) Get out of bed.
        2) Turn off DM800se.
        3) Turn on HD
        4) Turn on DM800se.

        And see if it then recognises it.

        Imagine unplugging your hard drive from your PC while its still on (an internal one). It would go mental. I think its something similar going on here, the dm800se is expecting it to be there and when you turn it off it gets upset. I dont think it treats it as a PC would treat an external drive as such.

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        • skronk
          Top Poster
          • Sep 2010
          • 188

          #5
          Originally posted by micflair
          Must be dark in your bungalow with no windows!

          Did you try the following combo:

          1) Get out of bed.
          2) Turn off DM800se.
          3) Turn on HD
          4) Turn on DM800se.

          And see if it then recognises it.

          Imagine unplugging your hard drive from your PC while its still on (an internal one). It would go mental. I think its something similar going on here, the dm800se is expecting it to be there and when you turn it off it gets upset. I dont think it treats it as a PC would treat an external drive as such.
          Will give it a try...!
          Not enough height from window to ground to do the damage this ~~~~in' hdd deserves...

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          • cactikid
            V.I.P. Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 12017

            #6
            or if its an old drive it may be worn out

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            • khurshid ali
              Newbie
              • Nov 2011
              • 1

              #7

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              • skronk
                Top Poster
                • Sep 2010
                • 188

                #8
                Originally posted by cactikid
                or if its an old drive it may be worn out
                Only used 2 weeks then removed from Sly box to accomodate larger drive, so effectively brand new !!!!!

                Thank ~~~~ for drink......

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                • skronk
                  Top Poster
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 188

                  #9
                  Trying to format/initialize new hdd using TSPanel

                  Get message Mkfs failed.DM800se and Dreamboxuk image.

                  Help ?

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                  • davvo
                    DK Veteran
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 666

                    #10
                    put both of these lines in var/etc/fstab
                    reboot
                    then initialize

                    Code:
                    #/dev/sda1            /media/hdd           auto       defaults              0 0
                    /dev/sdb1            /media/hdd           auto       defaults              0 0
                    make sure you have a folder called movie in media/hdd

                    if not telnet the command below

                    mkdir /media/hdd/movie
                    Last edited by davvo; 27 November, 2011, 22:03.

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                    • dibble
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 24

                      #11
                      Originally posted by skronk
                      Trying to format/initialize new hdd using TSPanel

                      Get message Mkfs failed.DM800se and Dreamboxuk image.

                      Help ?
                      I got a bogus failure message when I did this on my external HDD using a Newnigma2 image . If yours is similar try telneting to the box and do the following as root: (what you type is in blue)
                      Code:
                      [COLOR=RoyalBlue]fdisk /dev/sda[/COLOR]
                      The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 243201.
                      There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
                      and could in certain setups cause problems with:
                      1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
                      2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
                         (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
                      
                      Command (m for help):[COLOR=RoyalBlue] p[/COLOR]
                      
                      Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes
                      255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders
                      Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
                      Disk identifier: 0xbd83c23f
                      
                         Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
                      /dev/sda1               1      243201  1953512028+  83  Linux
                      
                      Command (m for help):[COLOR=RoyalBlue] q[/COLOR]
                      That's what a successfully format disk should look like. If that didn't work, run mkfs /dev/sda1 by hand and see what error it returns.
                      After that make sure you have a directory called /mount/hdd and that the following is in your /etc/fstab file:
                      Code:
                      /dev/sda1            /media/hdd           auto       defaults              0 0
                      Mama's got a Dreambox ...

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                      • skronk
                        Top Poster
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 188

                        #12
                        Originally posted by davvo
                        put both of these lines in var/etc/fstab
                        reboot
                        then initialize

                        Code:
                        #/dev/sda1            /media/hdd           auto       defaults              0 0
                        /dev/sdb1            /media/hdd           auto       defaults              0 0
                        make sure you have a folder called movie in media/hdd

                        if not telnet the command below

                        mkdir /media/hdd/movie
                        Not sure how to telnet. Can you please explain the procedure ?

                        Thanks

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                        • davvo
                          DK Veteran
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 666

                          #13
                          start dreambox control center and click telnet

                          or on pc
                          in run box
                          type cmd press enter on keyboard
                          type telnet 192.168.x..x <-----------your dm ip
                          press enter on keyboard
                          login with root (enter on kb)
                          dm password (enter on kb)
                          Last edited by davvo; 28 November, 2011, 18:42.

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