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  • hallberg
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 21

    #1

    DM800 Motor Settings

    Had my DM800 a few weeks now and tried several images and found Gemini 3.60 the most stable. Am aware that these images are not popular with some but it is my experience. Have had the box working well on astra/hotbird with monobloc but have had no success with motors. Have tried a TM2100 and an old Manhattan H100. I have yet to find, after much searching of several forums a clear step by step method of setting up a motor? At the moment I am using my trusted TM1500 to operate the motor with a loop through to the DM800. This enables me to view one satellite (hotbird) but is not ideal. Any help to get this expensive piece of kit to do better would be greatly appreciated. I have had some success getting the motor to turn using only the DM800 after trying various settings with disequ and usals but have never been able to configure system as a fully stand alone motorised setup?

    <--hallberg added 210 Minutes and 46 Seconds later...-->

    Has any one got a DM800 working well with a motor? If so can they share their setup ie image, motor type and settings?
    Last edited by hallberg; 24 July, 2008, 09:09. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
  • Curious123
    V.I.P. Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 2591

    #2
    I don't think the image is your problem but more like your settings for the motor in the Dm800. I have dm500 with a motorised 1m dish and it has always worked fine with various images. I would assume that your dish is aligned correctly since you are using it with your Technomate.

    In the Setup > transponders and satellite > motor setup

    have you inserted your lat/long and set option to use usal?

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    • westkill
      V.I.P. Member
      • May 2008
      • 2378

      #3
      Originally posted by hallberg
      Had my DM800 a few weeks now and tried several images and found Gemini 3.60 the most stable. Am aware that these images are not popular with some but it is my experience. Have had the box working well on astra/hotbird with monobloc but have had no success with motors. Have tried a TM2100 and an old Manhattan H100. I have yet to find, after much searching of several forums a clear step by step method of setting up a motor? At the moment I am using my trusted TM1500 to operate the motor with a loop through to the DM800. This enables me to view one satellite (hotbird) but is not ideal. Any help to get this expensive piece of kit to do better would be greatly appreciated. I have had some success getting the motor to turn using only the DM800 after trying various settings with disequ and usals but have never been able to configure system as a fully stand alone motorised setup?

      <--hallberg added 210 Minutes and 46 Seconds later...-->

      Has any one got a DM800 working well with a motor? If so can they share their setup ie image, motor type and settings?
      you could pm a member called 2tone he might be able to help you
      i think he has a dm800 on sat
      dm800-s=1.1 m triax motorised dish=titanium twin lnb

      DIGITAL KAOS BEST SITE ON THE NET

      please use the thanks button if someone has helped

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      • hallberg
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 21

        #4
        The dish is fine and works well with other receivers. I have entered my lat/long which is accurate from google earth etc. when I do a services search the receiver will only scan 13 & 19 degrees then stalls. I will pm the contact you refer to and am open to any suggestions from others that have a DM800 working well with a motor?

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        • ^^MaXiMo II^^
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 80

          #5
          hi there i have a stab motor using likra settings and i never had any problem
          i will pass you my confg if that will help you.
          ::::>>Nabilosat<<::::
          BlackHole project

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          • hallberg
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 21

            #6
            Originally posted by ^^MaXiMo II^^
            hi there i have a stab motor using likra settings and i never had any problem
            i will pass you my confg if that will help you.
            Hello, that would be great if you could pass me your setup info. Thanks for the response.

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            • ^^MaXiMo II^^
              Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 80

              #7
              Im now not home but it very simple.
              in tuner menu i have setted mode: simple, motor and put my lat and long.
              With my 800 i have ooozoon in flash and i use Nabilo BlackHole settings Likra
              Let me know if works for you
              ciaoooo
              ::::>>Nabilosat<<::::
              BlackHole project

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              • Curious123
                V.I.P. Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 2591

                #8
                Originally posted by ^^MaXiMo II^^
                Im now not home but it very simple.
                in tuner menu i have setted mode: simple, motor and put my lat and long.
                With my 800 i have ooozoon in flash and i use Nabilo BlackHole settings Likra
                Let me know if works for you
                ciaoooo
                I have a motor and always use 'complex' and usal as the setting for my rotor setup.

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                • bluenose50
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 30

                  #9
                  motor

                  iam having the same prob my motor works fine on the 500 yet the 800 just wont drive the motor ive had a new tuner from dream still no luck they have admitted to me there are probs and just say ill have to be patient
                  not very good response for ?359.00 is it
                  it seems to be with the older motors mines a 10 year old cryptik unit

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                  • 2tone
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 483

                    #10
                    Had alot of probs with this my self and to tell you the truth your better of knowing how to sort it its not hard just took me a couple of hours to work it out talk about a head melt

                    what you need to do is set each sat up its self go to main menu , set up , service searching then go to tunner configuration you should only have one option tuner A hit ok on this now this is were alot of people are messing up from what i can see on alot of places on mine its set like this and you have to do this for every sat you set up

                    configuration mode advanced
                    satellite astra/eurobitd (28.2e)
                    voltage mode polarization
                    tone mode band
                    lnb ok push this once to the right then you get a bigger menu
                    ok you now have ( usals for this sat ) were lnb was and it has moved under it
                    use usals for this sat no
                    stored position ok make this to what ever you are going to set it as in your
                    motor settings that for 28 mine is set to 028
                    lnb is now under this mine is set to 1
                    diseqc mode 1.2
                    after that i never changed any thing just left them as they were what i did find was i had to do one sat go find it then reboot then back in to the tunner settings to set up for the next sat as was done above so after you set your sat in the tunner settings press ok takes you back to choose tuner press exit then pick positioner setup now as we have set it to find a sat we can now move the dish from left to right so as long as your motor is set up right this next bit should not take to long select tune ok not working did my head in this press the red button says tune on it why they did not let you use the ok button on this i dont know but any how takes you to a new menu

                    tune manual transponder
                    satellite astra/eurobird (28.2e) push left or right till you see your sat
                    frequency 10773
                    inversion auto
                    symbol rate 22000
                    polarity horizontal
                    fec auto
                    now press ok takes you back to the positoner setup menu

                    now go to positioner storage as you set it to 028 in the tunner set up page set this to 28 or what ever you set it at then go to positioner movement click the blue button to move it east wait till you get a lock push the blue button again to stop it then move down to positioner fine movement for this you will have to push green or yellow for what ever way you need to go what i will say is you will only get about 25 or so % on your sat but dont worry one of my sats is as 15 or so and its ok think its a bug to do with the tunner but will be fixed from what i have seen when you have the lock puch down on to positioner storage make sure it says 28 if going by what i set it at click green button to store it now click exit click no if some thing comes up about zap back go to manual scan

                    tuner tunera: alps bsbe2 (dvb-s2)
                    type of scan single transponder
                    system dvb-s
                    satellite astra/eurobird (28.2e)
                    frequency 10773
                    inversion auto
                    symbol rate 22000
                    polarity horizontal
                    fec auto
                    network scan yes

                    then click ok it will do a full scan when done click exit then do a reboot when out of the menus when back on go to 28 and pick a chan should work only prob i think you might have with 28 is 19e as they can pick up on the same transponder so when its doing its scan it should come up on the page bskyb witch im sure you know if not stop the scan then go back and move the dish more east should fix the prob , so if all is ok you will now have to do all thins from the start for every sat till they are set up i only have 1w , 5w , 13e , 16e , 19e , 28.2e on mine so only had to do it 6 times but its good to do as it lets you see how the menu works .

                    One more thing i found was i had to get different transponders from what i would have used on my 500 these are the ones i used for the 800 on some sats i had to scan 2 or 3 times so here is the list i used

                    1 west = 11216 v 24500 7/8
                    5 west = 11521 v 29950 7/8 11591 v 20000 2/3
                    13 east = 11862 h 27500 3/4 12034 v 27500 3/4 10930 h 27500 3/4
                    16 east = 11055 v 27900 3/4 11011 v 27500 3/4
                    19 east = 10832 h 22000 3/4 10773 h 22000 5/6
                    28 east = 10773 22000

                    If you are still stuck pm me your msn and ill add you and go over it
                    Last edited by 2tone; 28 July, 2008, 18:31.

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                    • bluenose50
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 30

                      #11
                      thanks for the info m8
                      its been tdriving me potty ill give it a go tonight

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                      • 2tone
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 483

                        #12
                        If you need a hand i should be about on msn most of the night

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                        • magostinho
                          Newbie
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Thank you very much for your detailed explanation 2tone!!! Very Helpful!
                          Can I PM you with my skype ID?, I am going to finish installing my setup this Friday, and I could still use some advice :-)

                          Cheers
                          MA
                          Last edited by magostinho; 29 October, 2008, 20:53.

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                          • 2tone
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 483

                            #14
                            post here m8 when your setting up and let us know what probs your having

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                            • magostinho
                              Newbie
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9

                              #15
                              I will try to get up early next Friday, put the dish on the holder, find the true south... and finish the install...

                              So far I have prepared almost everything:

                              I assembled the dish (diameter= 1m) on the motor, with the right elevation and declination angle.

                              Latitude = 51, Elevation Angle = 39 (this set on the motor's scale righ?)
                              Declination Angle = 7.4 (this is set on the dish's scale right?)

                              I Also have a value for "Dish Bracket Angle" which is 22.6 but I don't know what it stands for...

                              I am also not sure about the LNB rotation, the LNB has a scale on it (with a zero) but I don't know how much I should tilt/rotate it, and what I should take for reference point on the LNB holder...

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