dreambox 800HD, hdmi connection ???

[Saltire]

does an 800HD connect hdmi to hdmi and does the hdmi cable come with it ? also , does it upscale standard def, if so , what to ? and does it produce hd in 1080i or 1080p ?

[southpaw]

DM800 is max 1080i output or you can select 720p in menu , afaik no broadcaster sends in full 1080p , and it comes with a cable that is hdmi one end (tv) and DVI other end (stb) also this cable ships with the box , both clone and original ,
Not sure what standard is scaled to , but it looks damn fine on my 42" panny

[Saltire]

DM800 is max 1080i output or you can select 720p in menu , afaik no broadcaster sends in full 1080p , and it comes with a cable that is hdmi one end (tv) and DVI other end (stb) also this cable ships with the box , both clone and original ,
Not sure what standard is scaled to , but it looks damn fine on my 42" panny

hmm, thats what i thought, hdmi to dvi, well how do you get sound then, do we need seperate audio cable yes ? (dvi doesnt carry sound)

[westkill]

the lead will on these, well mine does

[Saltire]

the lead will on these, well mine does

cant mate, not technically possible for a DVi cable to carry sound, they only carry video, and an hdmi carries sound and video.

i already knew all this mega years ago as its as old as my granny, , but for the sake of others who dont know the difference with dvi and hdmi, read here >>>

http://www.abccables.com/info-dvi-hdmi.html

[Saltire]

cant mate, not technically possible for a DVi cable to carry sound, they only carry video, and an hdmi carries sound and video.

i already knew all this mega years ago as its as old as my granny, , but for the sake of others who dont know the difference with dvi and hdmi, read here >>>

Are there any differences between DVI and HDMI?

so how do we get sound out the dream 800HD without using the digital audio connection, is it a case of you need the scart cable connected too so that the sound travels through that, thats the only way i see technically possible ?

[southpaw]

It must be some modified version of DVI , as it definately carries sound mate , my tv is linked to dm800 with this and only this cable and sound is coming out the tv ,

I read somewere that dream media couldn`t get a license to use normal hdmi , and the only workaround was to use DVI , (an audio carrying dvi)

[Saltire]

It must be some modified version of DVI , as it definately carries sound mate , my tv is linked to dm800 with this and only this cable and sound is coming out the tv ,

DVI doesnt carry sound, its not possible, DVI is not connected to any audio circuits, hdmi is though, and scart is too, if there was an dvi to hdmi cable fitted and a scart, then i could see the possibility of sound then, but not just with dvi, as i previously said, dvi doesnt carry sound, and i also posted a link explaining that too.

[westkill]

i know what your saying m8 thomson
about the sound thing
probally to to with the lead and hardware from the dreambox
Digital Visual Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[southpaw]

DVI doesnt carry sound, its not possible, DVI is not connected to any audio circuits, hdmi is though, and scart is too, if there was an dvi to hdmi cable fitted and a scart, then i could see the possibility of sound then, but not just with dvi, as i previously said, dvi doesnt carry sound, and i also posted a link explaining that too.

Ok , let me put it another way , My dm800 doesnt have a DVI lead , it has a HDMI lead , only one end has a modified audio carrying dvi connection ,

I appreciate what your saying mate about dvi not being audio capable mate , but i dont see where this thread is going , you say not possible , i say it is , cos its happening righ5t before my eyes !
sound + dm800 + dvi - Google Search

[Saltire]

Ok , let me put it another way , My dm800 doesnt have a DVI lead , it has a HDMI lead , only one end has a modified audio carrying dvi connection ,

I appreciate what your saying mate about dvi not being audio capable mate , but i dont see where this thread is going , you say not possible , i say it is , cos its happening righ5t before my eyes !
sound + dm800 + dvi - Google Search

strange, hmmm, i wonder how it works then, DVi just doesnt carry sound, full stop !, all it can be is that the circuit inside the dreambox 800hd somehow is rigged up to carry the sound from the hdmi - dvi cable, cause the cable wouldnt do it on its own, thats for sure, its all got to be happening in the box, no other explanation for it..

Personally speaking i would just buy a cheap as chips digital audio cable for the sound as the 800hd has a digital audio output, so as long as your amp or tv has digital audio input then thats the way to go, i have device like that in the house just now.

I would still love to know the technical explanation though of how the 800 produces the sound from a dvi-to-hdmi cable if anyone knows ?

[Saltire]

to go back to my first question in post number 1, does the 800HD upscale standard definition images ?

[unadkat]

to go back to my first question in post number 1, does the 800HD upscale standard definition images ?

I dont think it does as it doesn state in the specs.

And seeing as my mate has one.... Now that I remember am defo sure that it doesnt upscale the image.

DM800 Specification

* 300 MHz MIPS Processor
* Linux Operating System
* OLED – Display
* MPEG-2 / H.264 Hardware decoding
* Tuner: DVB-S, optional: DVB-C, DVB-T
* Tuner Module, Plug&Play
* 1 x Smartcard-Reader
* V.24/RS232 Interface
* 10/100Mbit Ethernet Interface
* 1 x Scart (RGB, FBAS or S-Video)
* DVI
* 2 x USB 2.0
* analog modem
* S/PDIF Interface for digital bit stream out (AC-3)
* 64 MByte Flash, 256 MByte RAM
* SATA
* for use either as internal SATA HDD 2,5
* or to use for extern eSATA
* unlimited channel lists for TV/Radio
* channel-change time < 1 second
* automatic service scan
* directly bouquet-lists
* EPG (electronic program guide)
* multiple LNB-Switching control (supports DiSEqC)
* OSD in many languages and skin-support
* Videotext Decoder
* extern 12V power supply

DM800 Technical data
DBS-Tuner with DVB-S2:
Frequency Range 950 …. 2150 MHz
Demodulation DVB-S (QPSK); DVB-S2 (8PSK,QPSK)
Symbol rate DVB-S: 2 … 45 Mbaud/s, SCPC/ MCPC
DVB-S2: 10 - 31 Mbaud/s (8PSK) , 10 ?30 Mbaud/s (QPSK)
Video decoder:
Video Compression MPEG-2 and MPEG-1 compatible, H.246
Video Formats 4:3 / 16:9
Letterbox for 4:3 TV-Device
Audio decoder:
Audiokompression MPEG-1 & MPEG-2 Layer I and II, MP3
Audio Mode Dual (main/sub), Stereo
Frequency: 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 16 kHz, 22.05 kHz, 24 kHz
Output analog:
Output Level L/R 0,5 Vss on 600 Ohm
THD > 60 dB (1 kHz)
Crosstalk < -65 dB
Output digital:
Output Level 0,5 Vss on 75 Ohm
Sampled Data Filtering 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz
S/PDIF-Output optical, Toslink
Ausgang Video:
Ausgangspegel FBAS 1 Vss +/- 0.3 dB an 75 Ohm
Video parameter:
Input Level FBAS 1 Vss +/- 0.3 dB on 75 Ohm
Teletext filter in conformity with ETS 300 472 Standard
TV-Scart:
Output: FBAS, RGB, S-Video
Serielle Interface RS 232:
Typ RS232 bidirectional
Bitrate 115,2 kBit/s max.
Plug Connector SUB-D-9
Function: Update of Firmware
Ethernet:
10/100 MBit compatible interface
Function: Update of Firmware
Analoge modem:
analoge modem for Internet connection
SATA Interface:
- for use either as internal HDD 2,5? or eSATAor internal 2,5″ HDD
USB
2 x USB 2.0 Host
LNB power and polarisation per tuner:
LNB Current 500mA max.; short-circuit-protected
LNB Voltage vertical < 14V no load, > 11,5V at 400mA
LNB Voltage horizontal < 20V no load, > 17,3V at 400mA
Count of active satellite position:
DiSEqC 1.0/1.2 SAT POSITION / SAT OPTION
DiSEqC – Rotor Control
Power consumption:
< 15W at 12V
External PSU
Input:
110-240V AC / 50-60Hz / 0,6A
Output:
12V = / 3,0A
Physical specification:
Ambient Temperature +15?C…+35?C
Humidity < 80%
Size (W x D x H):195 mm x 140 mm x 40 mm
Weight: 1,8 kg without HD

speaking of dm boxes.. seeing as next week is the launch of dm500 HD why not just wait and add extra money on top and get the new DM500HD.

which is a much better box in my opinion!!!

[Saltire]

thanks mate, but will the 500Hd also upscale sd ?

(if what your saying about the 800hd is correct then its not a very good box that cant upscale sd images )

[Sat-Shop]

Hi there, you may be interested in looking on an older thread here http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...reambox-33749/ this maybe gives you some answers on the questions you are asking it's a case or weighing up the pros and cons... Just to confirm though on the DM800 the DVI connection 100% does pass audio and the receiver comes with the DVI-HDMI adapter.

In all honesty if you can then wait around a few more weeks before taking the plunge, we've got the Technomate, VU+ SOLO and Q-BOX Mini all due out and all running Enigma2 like the Dreambox and no doubt at a lot better pricing point... There is also the VU+ DUO which has taken Europe by storm! We're sold out now as is most of Europe but they'll be more soon around the end of March, they are offering Twin Tuner, HDMI connection, Enigma2 that'll run CCcam as client and server, 3 groups supporting images (PLi, VTi and Original) and now as announced yesterday Dream Elite will be supporting the VU+ DUO and releasing an image in days! It don't get much better than this!

All I'm saying don't be to quick on this one to jump in and by a Dreambox because finally there is a bit of choice on the market rather than buying and original or choosing a 2nd rate clone, you've now got some real choices!