motor stuck - tm2600??

[saj1985]

yeah you seem to be doing ok on diseqc 1.2 some sats you will get over a 1000 channels 13E springs to mind and some you will only pick a handfull up.if you make sure you have an active TP set when you search for sats you will be fine try this list of mine.its not conclusive but you should get allthose sats ok.check out www.flysat.com for channels.

PS in birmingham when you are on Thor the indicator on the motor itself should point roughly at 1East(notWest) if you find your not tracking the arc.send the dish to 1E via its manual button and re-align on thor6 you will have to store again in that position and re do all the other sats as well.

so for example i chose the stongest trandponder when i was searching under 16e, but only found 52 services, is that about right on 16e?
is there like your saying just a handful under the satellite 16e?
by the way i got loads under astra 28.2e and hotbird 13

thor 0.8w is on the west side of my motor, slightly off 0degrees,, thats how its meant to be right?

i couldnt find the transponders you have on the list when i looked, how comes its not there?

[dick b]

so for example i chose the stongest trandponder when i was searching under 16e, but only found 52 services, is that about right on 16e?
is there like your saying just a handful under the satellite 16e?
by the way i got loads under astra 28.2e and hotbird 13

thor 0.8w is on the west side of my motor, slightly off 0degrees,, thats how its meant to be right?

i couldnt find the transponders you have on the list when i looked, how comes its not there?

if you cant find the transponders you may have to add them yourself in the "add TP" sub menu of your box.there will of course be other active ones on most of the sats. for your longitude 1W should be where I said about 1E on the motor scale It will only be on 1W on the motor if you live on the meridian(0 degrees)but if you track the arc ok IE;30W,1W and say 42E all have strong TPs I"d leave alone til your more into it.you wont get every channel on every sat for various reasons.16E can be tricky for some its a sat Iuse alot for digitalb but I coudnt tell you off hand how many channel you should get as I delete a lot that I cant/dont use.

[saj1985]

if you cant find the transponders you may have to add them yourself in the "add TP" sub menu of your box.there will of course be other active ones on most of the sats. for your longitude 1W should be where I said about 1E on the motor scale It will only be on 1W on the motor if you live on the meridian(0 degrees)but if you track the arc ok IE;30W,1W and say 42E all have strong TPs I"d leave alone til your more into it.you wont get every channel on every sat for various reasons.16E can be tricky for some its a sat Iuse alot for digitalb but I coudnt tell you off hand how many channel you should get as I delete a lot that I cant/dont use.

i think your right i had no luck with 42e,
so basically you reckon i've got it wrong?

jus looking at dishpointer again it shows true south and thor 0.8w to be the on the east side of true south as oppose to the west which i assumed!

so your saying 1east on the motor as an approx?

[dick b]

i think your right i had no luck with 42e,


so your saying 1east on the motor as an approx?

yeah thats right.I"ve sent a table of where the pointer on the motor should approx be for some target sats just read across from your location longitude.there can be other reasons that you dont track the arc,your mounting pole must be 100% plumb,either use an inclinometer or a spirit level to check all round,the dish must be 100% central on the motor spigot(the lnb arm should be exactly in line with the casting seams on the motor spigot) I always bolt the dish mount on to the motor spigot on the bench without the actual dish on it and only put the dish on once the motor/dish mount are in place.
also check you have the correct latitude set on the side of the motor.once you have driven the motor to approx 1E by the manual button and re-aligned the assembly for max signal dont forget to save the new position before looking for other sats as all the positions of the ones you have found so far will have shifted.

[dick b]

In my post#15 I listed the symbol rate for the 16E TP as 37702 it should read 3702 sorry about that.

[saj1985]

hey been really busy, aint had a chance to mess around with it till today!

anyways, dick b i did as you said,
i've moved thor so its approx 1degree east on my motor,
i've locked on to thor 0.8w and managed to lock onto hotbird 13e.

i've noticed that i get more services on hotbird then before,
so there is some sort of improvement,
but at the same time cant even lock on to astra 28.2e
by the way i've still to try some more sats out.

in hindsight i think i might have gone more towards 2/2.5degree east on my motor, could this be the cause?

[dick b]

it still sounds like your initial alignment is out,are you sure your mounting pole is 100% plumb and your dish 100% central on the motor spigot?this must be to stand any chance of tracking the arc.
after checking the above send the dish to 1E on the motor scale by the manual button on on the motor itself.I dont know your box at all I"m afraid but turn the motor control to OFF then choose 1W as the sat and 11.862 H 28000 as the TP(bbc world) go back out side and move the whole motor/dish assembly and the dish only up/down to tune it in with max signal tighten up.
turn diseqc 1.2 back on choose say 13E(as you already have this stored) wait for motor to stop then choose 1W again wait for motor to stop now if you have no signal you will have to find it by the move functions in your box once found and fine tuned "save" that position and you should have 1W correctly stored with the motor in the right position.you should then be able to find the next nearest sat using that TP guide I posted.dont forget to save each position as you find it.
I take it the motor is running smoothly now.

[saj1985]

it still sounds like your initial alignment is out,are you sure your mounting pole is 100% plumb and your dish 100% central on the motor spigot?this must be to stand any chance of tracking the arc.
after checking the above send the dish to 1E on the motor scale by the manual button on on the motor itself.I dont know your box at all I"m afraid but turn the motor control to OFF then choose 1W as the sat and 11.862 H 28000 as the TP(bbc world) go back out side and move the whole motor/dish assembly and the dish only up/down to tune it in with max signal tighten up.
turn diseqc 1.2 back on choose say 13E(as you already have this stored) wait for motor to stop then choose 1W again wait for motor to stop now if you have no signal you will have to find it by the move functions in your box once found and fine tuned "save" that position and you should have 1W correctly stored with the motor in the right position.you should then be able to find the next nearest sat using that TP guide I posted.dont forget to save each position as you find it.
I take it the motor is running smoothly now.

hey sorry for late reply, been very busy!
for a start i flashed the dm500s with openpli,
because its one of the latest images i thought it would have the latest transponders on and be a bit more up to date!
anyways i did as you adviced by trying to make sure everythings level then i put the motor to 0.8east and aligned to thor satellite,
on bbc world news got 95%snr, 90%agc and 0%ber.
after that i manually told the receiver through the remote control to move east/west to each individual satellite,
i also made sure that the strongest transponders from your list were included by either making sure its there or by manually adding it.
so far i've managed to find the following satellites
28,2e, 23.5 19.2e, 16e, 13e, 9e, 4.8e, and
0.8w, 5.0w, 12.5w, 15.0w, 24.5w, 30.0w.

28.2e - 659 services
23.5 - 96 services
19.2e - 854 services
16e - 296 services
13e - 1289 services
9e - 241 services
4.8e - 450 services
0.8w - 599 services
5.0w - 106 services
12.5w - 43 services
15.0w - 51 services
24.5 - 40 services
30.0w - 362 services

some satellites have loads of services yet some have less,
how can i tell how much services i approximately should have on each satellite?

i couldn't find 10e and 26e badr!
am i just being greedy? or should i just be happy with what im getting?

[dick b]

yeah sounds like you have cracked it mate,I wouldnt bother with 26E it really needs a large dish.10E should be ok try 12.611 H 9260 it gives the MGM channels and MGM ME is FTA at the moment and is a strong TP. Home - FlySat Satellite Chart is a good site for telling you whats on each sat but you will still not be able to get all thats listed for various reasons.I see you dont have 39E yet thats worth a try.30W is as far west I can get and 53East as far east 11.044 V 44950 is good and strong with a lot of russian channels.

[saj1985]

yeah sounds like you have cracked it mate,I wouldnt bother with 26E it really needs a large dish.10E should be ok try 12.611 H 9260 it gives the MGM channels and MGM ME is FTA at the moment and is a strong TP. Home - FlySat Satellite Chart is a good site for telling you whats on each sat but you will still not be able to get all thats listed for various reasons.I see you dont have 39E yet thats worth a try.30W is as far west I can get and 53East as far east 11.044 V 44950 is good and strong with a lot of russian channels.

wicked, i just found 10e with that strong transponder you posted mate, cheers!
on 10e im getting about 40 services,
i've found mgm me, but it doesn't actually show any picture,
its got 88%snr on mgm me.
other channels like palestine today, press tv & al sharqiya work fine

by the way, how and where can i find the latest strongest transponders?

[dick b]

yeah mgm me is a Biss key channel but its open for me with my patch off so I thought it had gone FTA,my mistake.
there is a strongest TP guide in the stickies but I just picked ones out that I knew were strong and active for that list I made.

[vorlon2257]

Guy's apologies up front if I'm highjacking this post but my question is also to do with finding Satellite channels.

I've a Technomate 97cm dish with high gain LNB hook up to a Starview HD Combo, if I move the dish using USALS to 5.0E Serius and using the frequency 12073 H 27500 I get a Single Strength of 82% and Quality Strength of 98% and if a do a scan for channels I pick up around over 200 channels, using the info on kingofsats no there are suppose to be over 500, but the the ones I'm interested in the Viasat Xtra PL's etc... I can't find even doing a manual search.

My position is 006.0W / 54.6N, so the question I'm asking is do I need a bigger dish?.

[dick b]

Guy's apologies up front if I'm highjacking this post but my question is also to do with finding Satellite channels.

I've a Technomate 97cm dish with high gain LNB hook up to a Starview HD Combo, if I move the dish using USALS to 5.0E Serius and using the frequency 12073 H 27500 I get a Single Strength of 82% and Quality Strength of 98% and if a do a scan for channels I pick up around over 200 channels, using the info on kingofsats no there are suppose to be over 500, but the the ones I'm interested in the Viasat Xtra PL's etc... I can't find even doing a manual search.

My position is 006.0W / 54.6N, so the question I'm asking is do I need a bigger dish?.

12.073 H is on the european beam and is easily received but the viasat channels you want are on the nordic beam which is going to need a big dish.I get a 50% quality reading in the east of england on a 1mt dish/technomate box..You would be better off starting a thread of you own and asking if its at all possible to get viasat from someone with local experience, your near Belfast it seems.

[vorlon2257]

Yes mate I am indeed in Belfast, funny thing is when I first put the dish up and was moving through the satellites scanning for channels, when I came to 5.0E I just scanned for channels and it picked up the Viasats no problem.

But as I've had to factory reset the box a few times and then scanning again for channels I can never find them now.

Think I'll a have talk with the guy who put it up for me to see if he has any suggestions.

[saj1985]

yeah mgm me is a Biss key channel but its open for me with my patch off so I thought it had gone FTA,my mistake.
there is a strongest TP guide in the stickies but I just picked ones out that I knew were strong and active for that list I made.

its kewl mate, yea i've seen the sticky,
just wanted to know where you got the up to date ones.
by the way i've managed to find 7e with 165 services