time to overhaul my system need advice

[Nutsandbolts]

any advice on updating my channels and satellites?

Hi Steve. I have a TM5400 SUPER and the way i prefer to update channels/satellites is by doing a Blind Search on each satellite found. I am not familiar with your receiver so dont know if you can do a blind search. If you have blind search on your receiver and need help to do it let us know and i will tell you how to do it. This of course depends on your dish being setup properly to pick up the satelllites.

Regards.

[Manic01]

Hi Steve. I have a TM5400 SUPER and the way i prefer to update channels/satellites is by doing a Blind Search on each satellite found. I am not familiar with your receiver so dont know if you can do a blind search. If you have blind search on your receiver and need help to do it let us know and i will tell you how to do it. This of course depends on your dish being setup properly to pick up the satelllites.

Regards.

As stated by many on here, blind scan is for feed hunting.
If you do blind scans on motorised systems you will fill the channel list quota up with un needed rubbish and also loads of unwanted transponders as well.
Use lyngsat of kingofsat for package details and transponders.

[Nutsandbolts]

As stated by many on here, blind scan is for feed hunting.
If you do blind scans on motorised systems you will fill the channel list quota up with un needed rubbish and also loads of unwanted transponders as well.
Use lyngsat of kingofsat for package details and transponders.

Hi Manic. Sorry to disagree with you again but blind searches is not for feed hunters only. It is there to update your transponder list with accurate and up to date channels. Thats why you get the blind scan facilites. You cannot input hundreds of transponders manually . Its much quicker and accurate to do blind searches. Yes you get unwanted channels etc but you get them anyway under normal scan. You then do what everyone else does ie delete unwanted stuff. Take care.

[Manic01]

Yes you can Blind scan for any reason, but unless you then delete all unwanted/duplicate channels/transponders the receivers total amount of channel/tp's/radio station will be filled in no time.
For example the TM5400 has a channel limit of 10000 I believe.
A blindscan of 13e will give as follows a minimum of 1520 TV 406 Radio and 108 Data Total 2034
This does not allow for duplicates.
So theres 20% of your database filled not inc the transponders.

[footycard steve]

i dont want people falling out after all your both trying to help,i'm getting set up on thursday it was usals but it will be diseqc this time i take it i can do a blind search on 1 satellite at a time and remove the rubbish? or will it automatically try and scan all sats together,i should be able to get 28e and a good range of west too as well as the other easts.

[Manic01]

Yes you can blind search 1 sat at a time.
Usals is better/easier than diseqc.

[Nutsandbolts]

i dont want people falling out after all your both trying to help,i'm getting set up on thursday it was usals but it will be diseqc this time i take it i can do a blind search on 1 satellite at a time and remove the rubbish? or will it automatically try and scan all sats together,i should be able to get 28e and a good range of west too as well as the other easts.

Hi Steve. i would do the following if i were you:

1) Use Disecq 1.2 if you are happy with it. To be honest it dont make no difference using USALS or 1.2 so long as you find the satellites.

2) To begin with ,if you want, make a copy of your current channel list to USB in case you hit problems and may need to start again.

3) Send it to the first satellite of your choice eg FREESAT 28 east.
Make sure you have correct signal strength for the satellite. This will depend on your motor and dish being aligned correctly.

4) Before doing a blind scan delete all the current TP's for 28 east. By doing this you will get rid of out of date TP's etc
.
5) Do a blind scan and let it complete. This will update your TP's and channels for 28 east
.
6) If you want to you can delete unwanted channels or organize the channels in a way that suits you for 28 east
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7) When your are happy with 28 east then send it to another satellite and repeat the process. Follow the same procedure for the other satellites.

Nb by doing blind searches you can tell if dish is aligned correctly on a satellite or not by the number of TP's it scans.

Hope it makes sense and good luck. Any queries let us know.

Regards.

[digicon]

I would have to agree with Manic01 he is absolutely spot on with the Blind Scan statement this should only really be used on one satellite at any given time, As its main purpose is to capture Feeds that may have just started on a particular satellite and you dont actually know the correct TP frequency just the satellite name.

Again manic01 gives sensible advice just the other day i did a scan with all the latest transponders from 45? west to 57? east and i just scanned for TV only preference, On a TM5402HD or Blade 7000 you only have a 10,000 capacity channel memory my scan returned just under 8,500 TV channels if i had Radio ticked as well my scan would have stopped short at around 36.0? east or maybe earlier. Now if i had done a Blindscan my search would have stopped at around say 16? east or even earlier due to the fact on the Doubling of TP data which is not needed i then would have missed out on the remaining Sats to scan.

Take Manic's advice and do it manually it will save you a huge headache.

[Nutsandbolts]

Hi. Digicon. On my TM5400 SUPER i have done loads of blind searches and have never seen duplicates or triplicates etc. Also i have never reached 10000 channels. The reason you have blind scans is very simple. It is to update your receiver with current channels. It is the same as Auto tune on your TV or FREEVIEW box. This is because when you buy a receiver it will contain out of date TP's/channels etc. The points to note are as follows:
1)Never use Auto navigation for blind scans. Reason for this is simple ie you end up going to satellites that you will never pickup in the UK ie NILESAT, AMOS, ARABSAT etc so you waste time. Also you have no control over the navigation. Always use USALS or 1.2.
2) Before doing a blind scan always delete the current TP's that you have. This will clear out the good and bad TP's ie you start from zero.
3) Do the blind scan on the satellite and when it completes sort out your channels in the way that you want, ie Favourite groups etc.
4) If you find that you have TP's/channles missing this is probably due to dish not aligned correctly.
5) When you have done one satellite and are happy then move on to the next satellite and repeat the process. In the end you will end up with up to date TP's/channels etc and you can sort them out in the order that suits you.
It is very simple process and easy to understand.
Take care.

[maca]

thats better

[footycard steve]

right dish now motorised again but its best to go sat by sat when i move it as there is a little play on the motor also when the engineer set the box up again he did a factory re-set so i've forgotten exactly what i need to load in terms of software etc,i sill had a phantompatch from 2011 on my desktop and i've also loaded the latest softcam do i need to do anything else?

[Manic01]

Latest patch and softcam all thats required.

[footycard steve]

should i be able to get some orf channels on 19 e with the latest softcam? if so can somebody tell me the names of a couple of channels i should be getting.
also csat on 19 e

[thijs]

hustler tv Would be from dutch provider but open with the austrian package and dorcel tv after 21:00
best thing to do is look here DVB Support - PAY TV
and here DVB Support - PAY TV Packages
tell's you what is open on most stb's depending on patch

[footycard steve]

i'm not sure if the dutch package is down or the ORF channels have caused a problem as when i'm on any channel from that package waiting for it to clear the channel/clock display panel goes down to 1 digit then switches the box off and back on repeatedly but eventually they do clear but if i swich to say another channel with a different encryption these austrian channels scramble again, should i be using a perticular channel to clear first and is it not a good idea to have these austrian channels next to the dutch?