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  • septicsmurf
    DK Veteran
    • Feb 2012
    • 401

    #1

    motorised dish help.

    Good morning everyone.
    I had an 80 cm motorised dish and a vu+ duo installed a couple weeks ago, but haven't had time to test it out until last night.
    I seem to get 13e, 19.2e and 9e with a good mid 80s signal.
    When I tried 16e the signal bar on the channel that shows up when you press the ok button only showed 30%, same on 0.8w.
    I also couldn't get anything on 39e which according to the dish size guide I only need a 60cm dish for.
    I am a total newbie so not really sure of what I am doing.
    Is it because the channels I tried are on not receivable here in the uk?
    Are there any fta channels I should try on different sats to test the dish?
    Can anyone help a newb out?
    Thanks all.
  • firestorm
    V.I.P. Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 1550

    #2
    It sounds like your ark is out.If you imagine the dish has to follow the earth curve in order to pick up sats.your cure seems to be lower at one end east or west but sound to me like its low on the east side.16e can be one of the weeker sat to pick up you may be on a week transponder or your ark being out.Anthor though is your dish mounted 100% vertical?
    The best FTA channel to set up your dish is bbc on 0.8w
    Last edited by firestorm; 20 March, 2012, 07:39.
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    • septicsmurf
      DK Veteran
      • Feb 2012
      • 401

      #3
      Thx firestorm. I'm not really sure if it's 100% vertical as i had it installed and can't really get to the dish.
      So if i try bbc on 0.8w i should pick it up no problems if it's set up correctly?
      Is there anything on the other end of the arc i could try? Maybe something on 39e and 16e?
      What confuses me though, is that 9e is mid 80's, so is 19e. 16e is slap in between them and isn't picking anything up!

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      • shankill2012
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 285

        #4
        There is a list on the forum of the strongest transponders and the channels to use when searching for satellites , on 39 east - THE VOICE 12524 h 30000,
        Last edited by shankill2012; 20 March, 2012, 09:03.
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        • mdt
          V.I.P. Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 3034

          #5
          didnt the installer check the arc for you?... surely he should have checked 42e/39e/28e/23e/19e/16e/13e/9e/7e/5e/1w/5w/15w and 30w to make sure it was following the arc properly. although your dish is the minimum for a motorised dish, dependent on your location/l.o.s it should be getting most txp,s on these birds... get him back and tell him to do a proper job, regards mdt
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          • septicsmurf
            DK Veteran
            • Feb 2012
            • 401

            #6
            Thanks shankill, i spotted it just after i did my last post. I'll go through them tonight. I assume they're all fta?

            Originally posted by mdt
            didnt the installer check the arc for you?... surely he should have checked 42e/39e/28e/23e/19e/16e/13e/9e/7e/5e/1w/5w/15w and 30w to make sure it was following the arc properly. although your dish is the minimum for a motorised dish, dependent on your location/l.o.s it should be getting most txp,s on these birds... get him back and tell him to do a proper job, regards mdt
            He had a mini telly and a stb with him, so i guess he did it whilst he was up there.
            TBH, i think he was just glad to be out of there. He was struggling for about an hour to get channels to scan on my vu+, insisting the box was duff.
            Whilst he was packing up, being an engineer,I tried the cure all.switch it off and then switch it back on.
            Hey presto, it worked!
            Think he was a bit put out.

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            • andymc1s
              DK Veteran
              • Sep 2008
              • 694

              #7
              when you turn yor dish to 0.8w or 16e when you select a channel are the channel names grey or white. ?

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              • septicsmurf
                DK Veteran
                • Feb 2012
                • 401

                #8
                Originally posted by andymc1s
                when you turn yor dish to 0.8w or 16e when you select a channel are the channel names grey or white. ?
                Sorry, i really can't remember. Is white fta and grey encrypted?
                I'll Have a look when i get home thanks.

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                • digicon
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 8261

                  #9
                  Depending on your image on the Duo instead of scanning the channels manually why dont you either A: download a premade set Catseyes is very good or B: transfer a set via dreamset or dreamboxedit

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                  • septicsmurf
                    DK Veteran
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 401

                    #10
                    Originally posted by digicon
                    Depending on your image on the Duo instead of scanning the channels manually why dont you either A: download a premade set Catseyes is very good or B: transfer a set via dreamset or dreamboxedit
                    Thanks. I have blackhole 1.7.2 running and i have transferred catseyes bouquet.
                    It's just knowing whether i'm having trouble with signal because of a bad install, or whether the channels i was trying can't be opened in the uk with an 80cm dish.

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                    • digicon
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 8261

                      #11
                      Originally posted by septicsmurf
                      Thanks. I have blackhole 1.7.2 running and i have transferred catseyes bouquet.
                      It's just knowing whether i'm having trouble with signal because of a bad install, or whether the channels i was trying can't be opened in the uk with an 80cm dish.
                      As MDT said above you should be able to get all of those sats he mentioned and a few others dependant of course on make amd quality of dish and the same for the LNB.

                      You will know if you can pick certain TP's up if you dont get the Tune Failed message or 0% on SNR bar, also check the beam maps on Lyngsat

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                      • septicsmurf
                        DK Veteran
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 401

                        #12
                        Originally posted by digicon
                        As MDT said above you should be able to get all of those sats he mentioned and a few others dependant of course on make amd quality of dish and the same for the LNB.

                        You will know if you can pick certain TP's up if you dont get the Tune Failed message or 0% on SNR bar, also check the beam maps on Lyngsat
                        The dish is an iss80 and an inverto black ultra lnb.
                        I have a clear line of sight from about 42e to 30w.
                        So if it says snr 0%, is that transponder i can't receive?
                        I'll have a look when i get home.
                        all this transponder and beam business is all new to me.
                        Doesn't catseyes bouquets only have the channels we can receive in the uk?

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                        • ramjet
                          DK Veteran
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2995

                          #13
                          need to know if you are using usals or diseqc v1.2 to operate this motor

                          if its usals , then make sure your location has been put in correctly into this new catseye list

                          if its diseqc v1.2 you will have to manually find and store each satellite individually so that the motor knows where they are

                          catseye is in the uk so will have a predominantly uk feel , BUT the point here is that it may not be set up for usals or diseqc and in any case you have to put your location into it for usals if you are using usals as he may be in john o groats and you in lands end !
                          Last edited by ramjet; 20 March, 2012, 12:47.

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                          • digicon
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 8261

                            #14
                            The Dish is OK not great but the LNB should make up for any shortfalls, as ramjet says is it set up for Diseqc or Usals, any installer worth his salt would set the dish up and fine tune for Usals rather than Diseqc thats the Lazy option.

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                            • septicsmurf
                              DK Veteran
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 401

                              #15
                              It is set up on usals. I saw him enter long/lay so i know thats been done.
                              as for entering location in the catseye list, huh?
                              Didn't realise i had to do that.
                              i just edited it in db edit and sent it over.
                              Do i have to enter my location in the list?

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