2 new solo clones, both have dead tuners?

[cactikid]

unfortunate yes but clones may mean inferior build.

[DOUGALMCD]

The other thing that you have to try is another working dish just for the sake of knowing you have tried everything.

[tkm18]

Sorted guys, turns out a combination of temperamental lnb and a slightly loose Co-ax cable.

On dougals advice fired one of them onto a fixed dish and worked first time, pot luck the openbox worked when I tested it. Came back and made a couple of adjustments to my setup and jobs a goodun.

I know the clones aren't spot on, but it seemed too much that both were knackered.

Thanks for the input guys.