vm nag3 move

**melloned** · 3rd April, 2009, 01:31 AM

I'm on the piss so much of late with not having to get up for work (no work !) , i wouldn't know if they'd encrypted it again , as i can't see too well !

**STU666** · 9th April, 2009, 05:14 PM

TBH they can encrypt it in nagra 5,000,000 for all i care

. There will ALWAYS be some smart dude out there who will crack the code and when that happens(as it will) they will be right back to stage one again.

**chroma** · 10th April, 2009, 11:20 PM

the only soloution for an uncrackable encryption is to convert all the ones and zeroes comming down the stream into...
Navajo!

It worked during ww2 with secret messages, its bound to work today right?
The only problem is, can the injuns get time off from the casinos to code talk?

1-0-1-1-0-0-1-0 would effectively be: ł?aʼii-neezn??-ł?aʼii-ł?aʼii-neezn??-neezn??-ł?aʼii-neezn??
it should totaly confound those pesky koreans.
Mr Branson is totaly missing a trick here.

**red devil** · 10th April, 2009, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by STU666

TBH they can encrypt it in nagra 5,000,000 for all i care

. There will ALWAYS be some smart dude out there who will crack the code and when that happens(as it will) they will be right back to stage one again.

i wouldnt hold my breath, after a few years in the usa they still have some revs of nag 2 not open and thats a bigger market than Irl & Uk
the best solution seem to be cardsharing wen nag3 comes

**TomTit** · 11th April, 2009, 12:10 AM

I believe that upc was incrparated in Ireland 10 April 09 and all Eurovoxes there have gone down.

**mrdude** · 11th April, 2009, 12:14 AM

I wouldn't worry about it guys, as soon as it changes (if it does) all people will need to do is start card sharing - which the dreambox can already do.

**jckw** · 11th April, 2009, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by mrdude

I wouldn't worry about it guys, as soon as it changes (if it does) all people will need to do is start card sharing - which the dreambox can already do.

i dont think vm is connected to hook holland tell me if im wrong upc is the sat provider from holland not involved with vm

**red devil** · 11th April, 2009, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by jckw

i dont think vm is connected to hook holland tell me if im wrong upc is the sat provider from holland not involved with vm

vm might decide to upgrade their nagravision encryption in the uk just like upc did in Irl, upc are a multinational company with 10 million subscribers and will have to pay kudelski who own the nagravision encryption system, i would'nt worry about the uk changin to nag3 any time soon....well not unless upc buy out vm

**jckw** · 11th April, 2009, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by red devil

vm might decide to upgrade their nagravision encryption in the uk just like upc did in Irl, upc are a multinational company with 10 million subscribers and will have to pay kudelski who own the nagravision encryption system, i would'nt worry about the uk changin to nag3 any time soon....well not unless upc buy out vm

i know ireland is in the procces of changing but i think the rest of us ie england ,scotland,ohh and also wales are a long way off yet

**krazylegz** · 11th April, 2009, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by jckw

i know ireland is in the procces of changing but i think the rest of us ie england ,scotland,ohh and also wales are a long way off yet

i dont believe that tbh.

i'd say the end of the year the uk will be nag 3

**red devil** · 11th April, 2009, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by krazylegz

i dont believe that tbh.

i'd say the end of the year the uk will be nag 3

upc started giving out nag2 cards in jan 2008 tho only a stop gap for their dvr's and the first nag3 cards a whole year later and it will be at least a year before we are anywhere near switched over, now the uk is a far bigger market than Irl for sure and they havent even started giving out cards !
i wouldnt worry guys until reports of new cards
btw does vm control all the uk or have u another provider

gmb45 · 11th April, 2009, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by jckw

i know ireland is in the procces of changing but i think the rest of us ie england ,scotland,ohh and also wales are a long way off yet

have to agree with jckw it wont be this year and i reckon another firmware change is about due

**keefy7** · 26th April, 2009, 07:37 PM

Seems feaseable as sky are also changing there encryption and issueing new cards out as we speak time will tell but for the time being just enjoy while you can

**alunfennell** · 26th April, 2009, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by mrdude

I wouldn't worry about it guys, as soon as it changes (if it does) all people will need to do is start card sharing - which the dreambox can already do.

Cardsharing works on satellite as there are many hundreds of thousand across Europe all sharing different subscriptions....But with cable on a closed network very few are willing to share and someone of course needs to pay for the subscription .... Its called sharing for a reason ! you need to have something to share back ! people get seriously pissed off and you face been kicked of a server if you have nothing in return...

Regards:
Alun

**batman44** · 27th April, 2009, 09:09 AM

This information has been around the forums for a long time, the chief who said this has moved on now, and VM do not do as S*Y do, in fact they don't get on, sky need vm for its programme content Uk Tv, Living, etc. Vm are deep in debt and cannot afford this change, they are concentrating on IP based veiwing so all the available funds are going into that. Any move into nag 3 will kill vm as people will move over to S** and vm will loose basic subs. Don't worry about anything major soon, big news is on the way with project canvas from the major broadcasters it will give them all a run for the money! and its free. VM are currently migrating all cable providers onto its network, except upc.

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