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moky
19th April, 2012, 07:45 PM
exxl:

my interest ? you plaisant,i have no interest,never,look all my post,i just say what i did and see with my clone..and if you know who I am, you are from KGB !!!! in future i will stop to make report,i don't care...


say here who i am please

ipejasinovic
19th April, 2012, 07:46 PM
Hehehehehhe ;)

ipejasinovic
19th April, 2012, 07:47 PM
a stupid question but:

vag edc16 over k line finish in 3 minutes everything

vag edc16 over can can take with galetto more then 30 minutes

isn't CAN normaly faster than KLine?

further how is it possible to make a CAN ECU with KLINE protocol?
Also hehehhehehehhe ;)

exxl
19th April, 2012, 08:04 PM
This ecu have also k line connected my friend its not just a can protokol :) and lets take for a moment edc16 out whats up then with edc15p from inside car it is too can protokoll?


Like i said earlier admit to yourselfs that you have bought bad hardware and the money is gone if your galetto cant do edc15p from car and edc16 vag on k line

This is just simple ecus later i will come with more ecu that bad hardware galetto cant do and my can

:)

moky
19th April, 2012, 08:14 PM
problem is,lot of people use fgtech clone but only few report their work...

exxl you use fgtech clone since how many time?

exxl
19th April, 2012, 08:23 PM
How many time you will i have here a workshop at least 10 cars a day i have for electronic repair but i test then also on this cars my clone to see have also some other friends that have bought from other sources and their experience is bad while i dont have with my clone bad experience only good ones i have only mention here most common and simple ecu on which some clones have problem and i want only to warn with this simple example people if they decide to buy they should buy real thing and be happy not to throw money like many of my friends did

moky
19th April, 2012, 08:35 PM
exxl,please report precise problems you had on ecus with fgtec.
I say that because I'm happy with mine but i couldn't say: buy it here or here because producing stopped for my hw...so I'm out but if i can help without blabla and experience with it, i will do ...

ipejasinovic
19th April, 2012, 08:43 PM
Each VAG EDC16U31/34 on K have problems. Some can't read, some can't write, some not even ID.

exxl
19th April, 2012, 08:48 PM
i dont have any problems with my, read carefully my posts, i said my friends have problems with it bought from another source then i have.

also i have already explained precise what problems other clones have and my dont have.

moky
19th April, 2012, 08:53 PM
one think positive in this tool,as i see,in obd if it can't write,it can't read..or perhaps I'm lucky


i say that because never have problem after read on write so it's positive thing..

sometime,in tricore boot tool don't make checksum (last tc1767 etc) but after manually checksum no problems.

other think,you must stay in contact with your dealer because there is sometime problem with backup licence you can't see that in 3 months....:D



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exxl
19th April, 2012, 08:55 PM
Each VAG EDC16U31/34 on K have problems. Some can't read, some can't write, some not even ID.

also dont forget to mention beside all VAG edc16u31/34 also all vag edc16u1 on k line have problems, some clones doesnt read, breaks on reading, doesnt get id or only gets id but never suceed in this ecus, somebody earlier mentioned this is a CAN ecu :) but what is then with VW transporter which uses edc16u1 or VW caddy ? they also have CAN lines there connected?

this is just a example with bad hardware what is impossible to do, my clone reads-writes this without any problems.

also other clones have problem on any edc15p from VW passat and Golf4 to read and write inside car, on bench it works but inside car not.

all this problems dont occur on my clone

moky
19th April, 2012, 09:09 PM
hi,

another question:

did anyone test the following:

- VAG Tools: set Counter EDC16
- Renault Tools: Injector Coder CAN
- Renault EDC16 CP33/C36

br



-No
-No (clip coast 150 dollars now..)
-work fine without injector code problem

blacktoy
19th April, 2012, 09:15 PM
ok
so just read out /write and ignore the injector code message and do the injector code after writing with clip?

blackpirate
19th April, 2012, 09:23 PM
just PM me if you want to see videos with proofs for fully working Galetto2!;)

Other clones ownwers pls show your clone working on edc16u1 or edc16u34 !:P you cant!:::::PPPPPPP

moky
19th April, 2012, 09:23 PM
no,fgtech make all I say clip if problem (always read code before work by precaution) but i never had problem.

moky
19th April, 2012, 09:31 PM
yours are perhaps the better BP but we search real users no real dealers :D (and no users of dealers ...! )









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ipejasinovic
19th April, 2012, 09:43 PM
and no users of dealers ...!
users of users of dealers? :D

moky
19th April, 2012, 09:46 PM
this is the under dk buziness... but all people here don't sleep and see all thing.. some people say thanks to them ,it's life my friend !!!

ipejasinovic
19th April, 2012, 09:52 PM
Yes, I'll always thank to BP, no matter if he is telling something useful or just an joke

moky
19th April, 2012, 09:57 PM
it was a joke ipe,bp is a good "pirate"


soon

ipejasinovic
19th April, 2012, 10:04 PM
Sorry, but I can't recognize joke, since I drink several beers :)

blackpirate
19th April, 2012, 10:21 PM
Sorry, but I can't recognize joke, since I drink several beers :)

u should move on Rum !:))))
or vodka!

beerssssssss bleahhhhhhhh!

ipejasinovic
19th April, 2012, 10:26 PM
No m8, beer is only thing left that I can drink. From everything else, I was poisoned, several times, so, no more! :D

gezame
20th April, 2012, 01:14 AM
Each VAG EDC16U31/34 on K have problems. Some can't read, some can't write, some not even ID.

Hi
Some vag models with ecu EDC16U31/34, use "can H-L" for diagnosis, and use "k-line" for programming, but the problem is that "k-line" is not wired up to obd connector.
Ony possible way to do without using bdm, is to throw a bridge between pin "k-line" ecu and obd conector, with the ECU connected to the car.
interfaces in these cases (clones or originals), can not ID-READ-WRITE.
I tried several times to do on table with several pin-outs, original interfaces and has not been possible, protocol "can" not read-write, K-line protocol, Id ok, read ok, but write error.
Ecu mounted in the car, with k-line bridge between the ecu and obd connector, id-ok, read.ok, write.ok.
Same problem with mercedes EDC16CP31, A-B class and smart and volvo EDC16CP31.
Br.

exxl
20th April, 2012, 09:14 AM
Yes thats right but the point is that from some manufacturers galetto clone cant do nothing on those ecu on car or on bench and that is sign of not good hardware

But what about edc16u1 they are all also k line wired in car galetto clone from some manufacturers cant do nothing on this ecu also on k line no matter if on bench or on car

Edc15p from passat and golf 4 inside car cant do anything only on bench

But watch out i am talking here only about simple ecus whats up then with some advanced that goes over k line

Conclusion of this discussion is like i said earlier if you already decide to buy galetto watch out where to buy because there are clone that works perfekt and half working clones the price is same but when buying watch out to have complete device bought and not half working one.

elosomaloso
20th April, 2012, 07:05 PM
could someone please share link trough pm from galletto2

Thanks!

gezame
21st April, 2012, 01:05 AM
Yes thats right but the point is that from some manufacturers galetto clone cant do nothing on those ecu on car or on bench and that is sign of not good hardware

But what about edc16u1 they are all also k line wired in car galetto clone from some manufacturers cant do nothing on this ecu also on k line no matter if on bench or on car

Edc15p from passat and golf 4 inside car cant do anything only on bench

But watch out i am talking here only about simple ecus whats up then with some advanced that goes over k line

Conclusion of this discussion is like i said earlier if you already decide to buy galetto watch out where to buy because there are clone that works perfekt and half working clones the price is same but when buying watch out to have complete device bought and not half working one.

Hi
All rigth, all know there are good clones and bad clones.
But if you see, my response was to post of ipejasinovic:
""""""Each VAG EDC16U31/34 on K have problems. Some can't read, some can't write, some not even ID"""""".
We could talk about many things here for the original interfaces that do not what they promise.
I have some original interfaces that could not read-write old ECU K-line, such as VAG EDC15, ME7.x, and finally I got done with a simple galletto 1250 or one old Mpps clone.
I guess you with his good "New galletto clone", has not yet been able to test all the families of ECU I've had in 8 years working with original interfaces and clones.
You do not can judge an instrument without trying at least a large part of what promises to do.

P.D.
I am not any manufacturer or reseller of clones, and I have no intention of bein.,
I do not have predilection for any.
Regards.

exxl
21st April, 2012, 09:58 AM
i am sorry to say this way but the point of this discussion is:

on which ecu some galetto clones work perfekt while others have there failure.

the point is that some people here most sellers lie to people that this is normal or software bug e.t.c while it is in fact a bad hardware

the point is that i wanted with my posts to warn people if they decide to buy to watch out and buy real thing and not half working ones.

that is what where my posts should help, about your discussions of some ecu k line briged there or on another point, how ecu work e.t.c we can discuss this on another thread because yours goes in offtopic

Hejzlar
21st April, 2012, 11:58 AM
new galletto clone is 1600 euro

this ist china oder EU oder another

ipejasinovic
21st April, 2012, 12:14 PM
EU clones available only. One good and other with problems...

ipejasinovic
21st April, 2012, 01:52 PM
We could talk about many things here for the original interfaces that do not what they promise.
I have some original interfaces that could not read-write old ECU K-line, such as VAG EDC15, ME7.x, and finally I got done with a simple galletto 1250 or one old Mpps clone.
I guess you with his good "New galletto clone", has not yet been able to test all the families of ECU I've had in 8 years working with original interfaces and clones.
You do not can judge an instrument without trying at least a large part of what promises to do.
Now we have strange thing, that one clone is working better than original :D

exxl
21st April, 2012, 04:20 PM
@gezame

just tell me what i should test immediately i test and send you videos.

i know exactly what other clone manufacturers bugs have and many more bugs, i just mentioned here a few common ecus.

i am sorry for you if you have bought a large amount of not good hardware galetto clones, but that should not be the reason to do not admit to yourself that you have bad hardware instead of trying to find excuses for bad working hardware :)

pencho
21st April, 2012, 07:07 PM
exxl
send videos BOSCH EDC7U31 IVECO
TRW EMS2 VOLVO RENAULT

ipejasinovic
21st April, 2012, 07:14 PM
exxl
send videos BOSCH EDC7U31 IVECO
TRW EMS2 VOLVO RENAULT
And then what?

pencho
21st April, 2012, 07:33 PM
I work only IVECO RENAULT end VOLVO
will buy
K-TAG is working 100%
but a very high price

exxl
21st April, 2012, 07:51 PM
send me this ecu and i send videos.

send you videos from any vag edc16u1/u34 or u31 on k line :)

pencho
21st April, 2012, 08:11 PM
no truck with you?
only cars

ipejasinovic
21st April, 2012, 08:43 PM
What is bad about doing only cars? There is much more cars than trucks.

BTW You should buy one tool and then try to defend your choice. exxl is just defending his choice and supplier.

gezame
21st April, 2012, 08:46 PM
@gezame

just tell me what i should test immediately i test and send you videos.

i know exactly what other clone manufacturers bugs have and many more bugs, i just mentioned here a few common ecus.

i am sorry for you if you have bought a large amount of not good hardware galetto clones, but that should not be the reason to do not admit to yourself that you have bad hardware instead of trying to find excuses for bad working hardware :)

Hi friend
First and make it clear i do not have new galletto clone or original.
I am interested in buying one, because as is easy to assume it is almost impossible to have all the original instruments on the market due to the high cost of interfaces and upgrades.
I do chiptuning professionally since 2004, and unfortunately for me that year, buy Kess V1 and ecm2001 of Alientech (12000 euros + taxes pay for that shit).
If you want to help, indicate where to buy the interfaces that work well, so people do not spend money on useless things like I did in 2004, unfortunately there was no information on the net about chiptuning.:)

Br.

ipejasinovic
21st April, 2012, 08:52 PM
If you want to help, indicate where to buy the interfaces that work well
Posting links in public is against rules ;)

gezame
21st April, 2012, 08:55 PM
i am sorry to say this way but the point of this discussion is:

on which ecu some galetto clones work perfekt while others have there failure.

the point is that some people here most sellers lie to people that this is normal or software bug e.t.c while it is in fact a bad hardware

the point is that i wanted with my posts to warn people if they decide to buy to watch out and buy real thing and not half working ones.

that is what where my posts should help, about your discussions of some ecu k line briged there or on another point, how ecu work e.t.c we can discuss this on another thread because yours goes in offtopic

Hi
I completely agree with you, but I have not seen any link to a reliable seller galletto new clone.
So far all I see in this post that the benefits of a particular interface for your external box.
"Black box works 100%, aluminum box has errors."
Let's be serious, the outer box is unimportant, do not is difficult to change the packaging for the sellers of clones.
Br.

gezame
21st April, 2012, 08:58 PM
Posting links in public is against rules ;)

Hi, ok.
You can send one link to me, other than your own website?
Br.

ipejasinovic
21st April, 2012, 09:00 PM
I can't, because there isn't any more good working devices ;)

exxl
21st April, 2012, 09:21 PM
Only one web page supplies the new clone and it is not about box it is about device working if you have read previous pages of this topic then you could see almost everybody who has galetto clone cant work with it on lets say for now vag edc16 k line or edc15 from inside car, the explanatiom from the sellers about this was that this has something to do with software, lap-top e.t.c

The fact instead is that this hardware is not good and not just hardware something else also but this would be now too much to discuss in this thread

Since i have showed video of my device working on edc16 k line everybody has shut up at once only defending their bad hardware with some stupid excuses but i belive people are not that much dumb and will realize what to buy to have a complete device

Once again their hardware has not just bugs on k line it has bugs also bdm with some also common ecu but i will not say which one in this discussions i keep it for me for later time discussions

powertdi
24th April, 2012, 09:14 PM
Exxl, I am sorry but I have device not from your shop but it works on edc16 K-line. On bench and on car.:ciao:
Anyway, no matter who sell tools , metter i s result!
Regards and technology for all members.

exxl
24th April, 2012, 09:50 PM
yeah works reading till 60% and then breaks :)

you are funny :) give me the writing video my friend but do not use your original :)

z786
25th April, 2012, 12:05 AM
how do u read edc16 on bench? by removing eeprom?

Stanton
25th April, 2012, 12:19 AM
how do u read edc16 on bench? by removing eeprom?

Or BDM...............

z786
25th April, 2012, 09:33 AM
lol any china clone bdm100 for 20 quid will read it by bdm

these lot are arguing they can do it on bench so im assuming thru kline??

Stanton
25th April, 2012, 10:19 AM
Sorry - I wasn't really paying that much attention to the details, there's quite alot of crap to sift through!

Yes by the looks of it, direct onto K-Line pin is what was being referred to.

IMO on EDC16, if you've went to the effort of removing the hardware from the car, then BDM is always best bet - no matter if its in a black case, ally case, comes from china, Russia, Bulgaria or Scotland :)

T72
25th April, 2012, 07:34 PM
will clone work with trucks?
thanks

pencho
25th April, 2012, 08:17 PM
Truck works well at K-TAG is working 100%

niwat_spp
26th April, 2012, 06:26 AM
Hi., friends
what's tool for read write ecu delphi DCM3.7AP(New captiva)

thank in advance

T72
26th April, 2012, 06:51 AM
Truck works well at K-TAG is working 100%
ktag its bdm programmer, I am looking for cheaper obd solution :)

pencho
28th April, 2012, 05:42 PM
Kess does only TRW EMS2 P01 and 02 by OBD.
Ktag does all TRW EMS2 p01 and 02 by BDM and p03 and p04 by Jtag interface.

Marmes
2nd May, 2012, 12:21 PM
Is there any new version of software for galletto?

ipejasinovic
2nd May, 2012, 01:51 PM
No. If someone sell you device as newer than v48, it's fake.

T72
2nd May, 2012, 02:03 PM
please pm me if there are good clone for sell.
thanks

filoxio
2nd May, 2012, 10:51 PM
I bought the GALLETTO 2 and it works very well .... who cares what I write in pm. if you allow me to write it here I do!

carmansk
6th May, 2012, 07:00 PM
I want to buy a clone! someone has to contact the seller

mamanacusa
6th May, 2012, 10:11 PM
No. If someone sell you device as newer than v48, it's fake.


Well not really... I can order crack an original interface with V52 firmware flashed into mcu... no problem at all... The only thing i doubt is to see your guys interfaces working at 2012 software :)

Because, i can show real 1:1 copy hardware + 2012 software working FLAWLESS on some ecus i've tested myself that common hardware floating around from same source can't do. Well that's a war, and i just want to show that i got version 48 of firmware working on latest 2012 software. And i give the other guys one hint, use brainware and crack some interface .dlls and you will see that you can do it working also :)

didi_du_93000
6th May, 2012, 10:42 PM
Anyone can say me if original galetto is better than kess v2 original too?
I need to buy a original tool in Master what is the best? I have 4500 euros for buy it.


Im working on european cars.

Thanks

Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk

ipejasinovic
6th May, 2012, 10:59 PM
Well not really... I can order crack an original interface with V52 firmware flashed into mcu... no problem at all... The only thing i doubt is to see your guys interfaces working at 2012 software :)

Because, i can show real 1:1 copy hardware + 2012 software working FLAWLESS on some ecus i've tested myself that common hardware floating around from same source can't do. Well that's a war, and i just want to show that i got version 48 of firmware working on latest 2012 software. And i give the other guys one hint, use brainware and crack some interface .dlls and you will see that you can do it working also :)
And then what? You can do Renesas over Jtag or ... ? For me, it's selling fog. "I'll give you something for bigger price which you can't use anywhere". You're stupid if you think that we don't have 2012 sw working with old tool. But, what for? Even most of EU clone sellers have a bit of honor.

And cracking dlls to flash your 50.000e car?! I don't think so...

ipejasinovic
6th May, 2012, 11:15 PM
@mamanacusa (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/134941-mamanacusa/)
and why the **** I talk with you?! You have only 7 posts. How your 7 post will help DK users more than my 1000+?!

mamanacusa
6th May, 2012, 11:28 PM
Anyone can say me if original galetto is better than kess v2 original too?
I need to buy a original tool in Master what is the best? I have 4500 euros for buy it.


Im working on european cars.

Thanks

Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk

Buy a legal tool that offers you support, FGTech is no option regarding support, for CMD Anton often is hard to get our problems answereds, and for Alientech i must say they are about 30 person working on that company and support works, + original files database service is awesome and keep in mind, support is everything on a business.

So my opinion as owner of all the tools, get Kess V2 as you won't regret. Software isn't "simple", it's for newbiews, and asks you many process, steps, often not needed but they keep it as safe as possible.



@mamanacusa (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/134941-mamanacusa/)
and why the **** I talk with you?! You have only 7 posts. How your 7 post will help DK users more than my 1000+?!

Just because when i talk i do it knowlegde, i'm not poster hunter.

Bad words express somehow you didn't like what i told you, but i've added information about your post. This is 2012 software DOING BUILTIN checksum calculation for edc15, me7, IAW ecus and a few other as i won't be listing them all in here... Please this add a whole new possibilites to people who can't correct checksum in softwares, and even knowing cracked OLS is out there with many checksums, some of them are not the latest version.

So please beside my 7 posts, take this 8th one as another proof of i speak what i say, i'm not scammer, seller or whatever...

And i'm not taking part of any of sellers positions on this topic :) Just as simple as that.

Behave properly i believe people will love that and buy you more tools.

Marmes
7th May, 2012, 10:07 PM
lol :D Funny !

zecas
7th May, 2012, 11:32 PM
funny sellers discussion

welcom to DK wholesale forum


:wink:
ps you are only allow to sell if over 1000 thanks

spawns3
8th May, 2012, 02:20 AM
FGtech 2 3/2012 avaliable .. PM me

Novik_UA
8th May, 2012, 10:09 AM
Did 2012 or other FGtech 2 clone calculate EDC\MED17 checksumm or not ?

VAGR666
8th May, 2012, 11:13 AM
so much fuss for an update that will be free soon...

ipejasinovic
8th May, 2012, 11:14 AM
Yes, they did. But risking doing cars with cracked v2012 software just because EDC15 checksum, I think it's not worth.

masterb
8th May, 2012, 08:20 PM
@ipejasinovic
what you main with edc15 cks ?
make cracked 2012 software wrong cks ... firmware of hardware is v49 .. only software is patch to work with old hardware ?

br

exxl
8th May, 2012, 09:13 PM
the real 2012 software should have renesas like in this picture ;)

ktronic95
8th May, 2012, 09:34 PM
Good evening guys I have heard around that there is something clone!

ipejasinovic
8th May, 2012, 10:57 PM
@ipejasinovic
what you main with edc15 cks ?
make cracked 2012 software wrong cks ... firmware of hardware is v49 .. only software is patch to work with old hardware ?

br
No. All dlls on v2012 are cracked. Even tricore. Would you allow your cracked sw to flash 100.000e car?

ipejasinovic
8th May, 2012, 10:59 PM
the real 2012 software should have renesas like in this picture ;)
Yes, just like I said before. There are clones which can run original 2012 software, not cracked! But, there is no hardware that can support Jtag, yet! I hope that soon will be out!

ipejasinovic
8th May, 2012, 11:49 PM
ps you are only allow to sell if over 1000 thanks
He he he hehehhe. I'm on safe side?! ;)

mbtuning
9th May, 2012, 11:35 AM
not really :))

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ipejasinovic
9th May, 2012, 12:30 PM
That's not problem to raise. This: Thanked 5,016 Times in 499 Post is more important ;)

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 02:24 PM
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ipejasinovic
9th May, 2012, 02:43 PM
You can **** up a car with original tool too. I wanted to say something other. It's easier too make shit with cracked sw + cracked hw, than original sw + cracked hw. Assuming that cracked hw don't have some hidden problems...

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 03:34 PM
Dear Sir,
Do you know what are you talking about?
Galletto1 , cracked software works 100%, kwp2000, cracked software works 100%, MPPS cracked software works 100%(some versions, but problem is not with cracked software),CMD BDM works 100% also cracked software , CMD KLIne and Can the same .... I bet 90% of people here chiptune cars with cracked version of software and these are a few examples I can give you.
Both bad hardware or bad software can damage a car.
I can tell you this, you only see one end, the one that matters you . What are you defending or who are you defending? Please explain so everyone can understand.
Your only defense here is the number of thanks you have, that makes you what? A nice guy?

You can **** up a car with original tool too. I wanted to say something other. It's easier too make shit with cracked sw + cracked hw, than original sw + cracked hw. Assuming that cracked hw don't have some hidden problems...

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 03:35 PM
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ipejasinovic
9th May, 2012, 03:43 PM
I can tell you this, you only see one end, the one that matters you . What are you defending or who are you defending? Please explain so everyone can understand.
You seem a bit nervous for just a customer! Do you have stomach problems or what?


Your only defense here is the number of thanks you have, that makes you what? A nice guy?
It's not your business what I told to zecas.

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 03:52 PM
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exxl
9th May, 2012, 03:57 PM
someone is boiling inside, here :)

its not your business to worry about my customers, my customers are happy and will be in future too.

see that you sell some tools first and when you have first real customers of your tool we will talk here...

for now you and Co. are only talking...and i dont belive people who talks too much somehow :)

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 04:01 PM
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exxl
9th May, 2012, 04:04 PM
WTF are you talking? are you on some drugs or something?

and i see you like to lie too, maybe you are not the seller but maybe you are a "constructor" ?

is this word ok to you :)

and i am not telling about anyones product bad i only say what one can do and other not, people decide then self what is better to them, have a working device you can lean on or device with which they never know...

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 04:12 PM
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Marmes
9th May, 2012, 04:24 PM
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PremierD
9th May, 2012, 04:31 PM
A bit of civility please people .. or the thread will be closed ..

P.S. I haven't banned anyone today .. yet ..

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 04:38 PM
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exxl
9th May, 2012, 04:50 PM
why should i ask for sorry? you said you are a potential customer but you know yourself that you arent customer.

i dont want to go in details but i stay to my posts about you and when i say constructor you exactly know what i mean.

and i havent say your name here anywhere even tough i already know it.

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 05:05 PM
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ipejasinovic
9th May, 2012, 05:17 PM
Yes, you're liar. I can find at least 15 users on DK which can prove that you aren't just buyer. We know your group, but no one didn't mention you until you & your friends came up with your fairytalles and of course, now famous claiming, how you aren't sellers bla bla bla...

Marmes
9th May, 2012, 05:31 PM
****************************************

zecas
9th May, 2012, 09:36 PM
hello it's getting boring
allow me to put some fuel

here picture of an clone made in EU with a lot of made in china parts and the soldering job... no comments

think you are all selling very bad quality even the yellow monkeys do it better
prices must drop for sure :rolleyes:

gad3n
9th May, 2012, 09:59 PM
build quality rocks ... 6 grader can do it better

filoxio
9th May, 2012, 11:17 PM
here is a picture of what I bought myself ...

exxl
9th May, 2012, 11:55 PM
i know both boards from the picture this boards have k - line problems on edc15p inside the car passat and golf 4 and on vag edc16 k line and some more problems...

also you can see resistor values on bdm are not the right ones ;)

ipejasinovic
10th May, 2012, 12:11 AM
I can't recognize any of this boards, but anyway, some guys know what they done and what can do. Some showed videos proving that their devices work well. Also, some offer demonstration, if they are in near. That's important to end customers. Mostly what we have seen here are screenshots. Any one else can go out in public with some video or what?

jjrp255630
10th May, 2012, 12:14 AM
This is my interface

ipejasinovic
10th May, 2012, 12:20 AM
seems same components, just different layout

jjrp255630
10th May, 2012, 12:28 AM
All i know is that works fine and i'm happy

faiscamix
10th May, 2012, 07:16 AM
Hmmmmm, mexican soap opera. I missed so much this sXXX. lol

jovime
10th May, 2012, 08:15 AM
Buy original tools. ECUs are not cheap ^^

Novik_UA
10th May, 2012, 08:38 AM
Is there some components on the other side ?
MagPro clon plate looks much more difficult ( foto is from other topic (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f173/kess-clone-repair-238848/), just for compare HW with new FG Tech), and price is more understandable.

spawns3
10th May, 2012, 02:30 PM
seems same components, just different layout


So take a picture from original and post here , and then compare the pcb's ;)

ipejasinovic
10th May, 2012, 02:51 PM
And why would I do that?

zecas
10th May, 2012, 04:20 PM
Is there some components on the other side ?
MagPro clon plate looks much more difficult, and price is more understandable.

about magpro the missing IC is not k line maby for ford protocol
if you find out what to puth let us know

no galletto2 is very simple hardware probably when the chinese get it will be very cheap

cp2010
10th May, 2012, 04:58 PM
original pcb and copy 1 to 1 made in EU

physyc
10th May, 2012, 05:43 PM
hello guys

i have galletto master (original) subscription hads ended and no wtrying to install on other pc. but is not working.

Is there a "no date" hack or someting so it will work again?

VAGR666
10th May, 2012, 10:24 PM
is it my impression or the copy 1-1 has the same crappy k-line transistors as original that are always burning?

glk96000
11th May, 2012, 08:00 AM
original pcb and copy 1 to 1 made in EU

Hi

why the copy has a microprocessor

cp2010
11th May, 2012, 08:55 AM
original working without mcu :)

eprommazza
11th May, 2012, 09:05 AM
congratulations you're all good
States with few posts just to sell ..
But do not weep when the cars will block
for me, this forum needs new rules
Your clones will never be as original
but use them at your own risk!

best regards

cp2010
11th May, 2012, 09:10 AM
is it my impression or the copy 1-1 has the same crappy k-line transistors as original that are always burning?

if short k-line to +12V all transistor can burning :)
you must think and have head when use this hw ...

VAGR666
11th May, 2012, 09:51 AM
if short k-line to +12V all transistor can burning :)
you must think and have head when use this hw ...


maybe a transistor that allows 400mA and with small surface to dissipate heat is to low, but that is just my 50 cents...

cp2010
11th May, 2012, 11:30 AM
congratulations you're all good
States with few posts just to sell ..
But do not weep when the cars will block
for me, this forum needs new rules
Your clones will never be as original
but use them at your own risk!

best regards

maybe you dont know yet electronic world
but clone can be better if correct some bug :)

eprommazza
12th May, 2012, 07:19 AM
maybe you dont know yet electronic world
but clone can be better if correct some bug :)

for me you do not know anything of electronic world..
but that 's just my thoughts
good luck

exxl
12th May, 2012, 11:10 AM
like everywhere there are good clones and bad clones, few pages before i have explained, its up now to people to decide what they want good or bad :)

yesterday made man truck on 24v with mine without problems ;)

AES Universal Flasher - MAN EDC7C32 - K Line Test - YouTube

pencho
12th May, 2012, 07:14 PM
MAN is good
VOLVO RENAULT truckswhen willwe see?

exxl
12th May, 2012, 07:35 PM
when i got one for tune, now working for one company with only man trucks. when i got renault truck in my service i make video.

mbtuning
12th May, 2012, 07:44 PM
Well it's better that galletto switched to a new interface with better protection the minute they saw it coming :P

xtreem
14th May, 2012, 05:57 PM
if someone need a clone Galleto I have a good contact that sells.

didi_du_93000
14th May, 2012, 11:36 PM
Hello all, clone full working???
Anyone can share picture of tool?

mbtuning
14th May, 2012, 11:46 PM
forum is full with pictures of this .... just use search button

Alex555
16th May, 2012, 10:39 PM
Galetto 2 price?

mariazo84
16th May, 2012, 11:54 PM
i dont shiping gtto2 in good conditions

258
19th May, 2012, 09:46 PM
I have problem with write Fiat Grande Punto 1.3 Multijet 90 hp MJD6F3HW03P, after write with Galletto v2 mod file, i read the file and compare it in WinOls with the original, files of identity . anyone had this problem?

worldofchiptuning
20th May, 2012, 07:30 PM
I have problem with write Fiat Grande Punto 1.3 Multijet 90 hp MJD6F3HW03P, after write with Galletto v2 mod file, i read the file and compare it in WinOls with the original, files of identity . anyone had this problem?



do you sleep ?
virtual read!!

moky
20th May, 2012, 08:17 PM
258, excellent joke..!!!!

best for you is to make a formation before buy pro "clones" and i don't want to imagine what you flash in this ecu :D


no read no problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mbtun
20th May, 2012, 08:53 PM
he is still trying to figure out what virtual read means:))

258
21st May, 2012, 09:11 PM
do you sleep ?
virtual read!!
there was a problem, so he asked on the forum for those who know, and they can not properly answer. Forum for this purpose and created, to ask and talk. Yes, I did not understand what it means to virtual read, if you know so much please: explain.

d.zio
27th May, 2012, 11:20 AM
hello to all......yesterday i recieved my galleto 1260....indide the soft sais about to see pdfs of the ecus but dont has something..........where can i find these pdfs please?can anyone infirm me???

VAGR666
28th May, 2012, 10:47 AM
hello to all......yesterday i recieved my galleto 1260....indide the soft sais about to see pdfs of the ecus but dont has something..........where can i find these pdfs please?can anyone infirm me???

1260? this thread is for the new fgtech... there are a lot of info in the forum about 1250 and 1260 you just have to search it...

blacktoy
4th June, 2012, 11:32 PM
dear all,

does anyone tried this chinese clone ?

oep
4th June, 2012, 11:46 PM
mamanacusa firmware version?

Marmes
5th June, 2012, 12:20 AM
old design, old software, same firmware, bad construction and of course , cheap!
Good buy! :D

AGS
5th June, 2012, 03:12 AM
old design, old software, same firmware, bad construction and of course , cheap!
Good buy! :D

I
You try it yourself,you have this?how much it cost?
best regards

eprommazza
5th June, 2012, 09:02 AM
You try it yourself,you have this?how much it cost?
best regards

the china quality better of spain portugal and other :shakehands:

cp2010
5th June, 2012, 10:01 AM
where from you can this know, that better from other if you did not see other !?
you have this chinese box ?
this is copy my first project and have some errors in pcb, k line and mcu

eprommazza
5th June, 2012, 11:44 AM
where from you can this know, that better from other if you did not see other !?
you have this chinese box ?
this is copy my first project and have some errors in pcb, k line and mcu

nowhere is just my opinion ...

:proud:

Maartinj
5th June, 2012, 02:55 PM
FG Galletto use BMD to read or CAN to Read and BDM to Boot ? I have Scania S6 ECU already dead on Write process via Kess (CAN) and I am thinking to buy this just t o get acces via BDM.

AGS
5th June, 2012, 05:06 PM
Who has chinese galletto 2,how is feedback?:stupido2:

chris_e36_328
5th June, 2012, 05:33 PM
Hi mate, I do agree chinese stuff does come in handy, but when you get down to doing a newish bimmer C35 or vag Tricore do you really want to risk using a tool that was developped with only one objective in mind.. to make money? you can't do much harm with a lexia, but messing up a relatively modern ecu can cost you way more than the difference between chinese and euro flasher. think twice pal, honest advice


Who has chinese galletto 2,how is feedback?:stupido2:

chris_e36_328
5th June, 2012, 05:34 PM
by the way, can anyone confirm what can G2 struggle with? even the good one?

exxl
5th June, 2012, 06:20 PM
have got photo from china hardware...

someone has sold a shit of project to china :)

mistakes in hardware as you wish :)

i can tell you right on what china gal v.2 will not work:

- vag edc16 k line
- vag edc15 and many others edc15 on k line inside car
- half stuff of bdm
- and who knows what other shit too that will future tell

blacktoy
5th June, 2012, 06:43 PM
please be so kind and share the picture of the china gal 2

do you know with which software version it is working?

exxl
5th June, 2012, 07:02 PM
I will not share pictures here people shoul learn on hard or easy way its their choice and their money

Software is old one 3.2011

mbtun
5th June, 2012, 07:24 PM
Is this some sort of promoting European clones for ridiculous prices? I think yes:)

moky
5th June, 2012, 07:51 PM
last version for good clone is 04/12 i just had it

zecas
5th June, 2012, 08:03 PM
china mpps and piassini is acording to many sellers i mean members here from DK very bad

fore me it works perfect nothing to say
and solder work is better then most of european clones

china galletto 2 lets waith for feedback ho actually have it and what sellers say... well sounds always like bullshlt to me

china powergate my advice is, to stay away from it not work good

mamanacusa
5th June, 2012, 08:36 PM
My advice is not to risk any customer ecu with unknown source of power. Concerning ecu's that are feed via an unknown interface, such as boot mode tricore and a few others ST10 i suggest to KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF

I can see people don't want to spend money, but in the end of the day you will see how wrong it can go and pay the bill, and learn the harder way. Clones are useful, often, if not too risky!

ipejasinovic
5th June, 2012, 08:42 PM
Yes, Chinese soldering could be better, because it's made in big series by professionals or maybe machine, but European clones, are now, at least good tested.

Also, Galletto v2 is superb machine and it's not European price insane, but Chinese! For someone who works with latest ECUs, EU clone could be payed of by two-three good jobs. Also support, communication with seller, discounts, new software releases, working hardware etc... Everything, except price, is on side European clones and sellers.

It's only problem for some customers which will find out on harder way, that I have right.

Also, you can burn Siemens ECUs using BDM on this Chinese clone. So take care...

exxl
5th June, 2012, 09:08 PM
its not a way to promoting european clone but you can understand it that way, i would rather understand it as a advice from people who knows what they talking.

or do you think china boys have bought ori galetto and then debugg it ? :)

dont be funny, most of china tools produced and cloned are projected by european guys and then sold as a project to their factories.

according to galetto v2 this is also bought from europe but with a hardware mistakes that will show on ecus that i mentioned before, but as i said before you can find it out yourself just buy it.


Is this some sort of promoting European clones for ridiculous prices? I think yes:)

moky
5th June, 2012, 09:27 PM
If firmware is same as screen so 24, good luck

tell us news

Thx

exxl
5th June, 2012, 09:27 PM
what is this kind of sh*t firmware 24 :)

hahah mpps can do better then firmware 24 on galetto :)

moky
5th June, 2012, 09:33 PM
we don't sell nothing,just user..say us news ,just updated mine,new cars and checksums updated,i will test and report (euro clone).

Dade84
5th June, 2012, 09:34 PM
where can I buy Galletto 2 clone?
1300 is a good price?

moky
5th June, 2012, 09:39 PM
Price and quality are two things different ...be careful...!





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Dade84
5th June, 2012, 09:43 PM
software release april 2012
is the clone for nothing?
is the price ok?

moky
5th June, 2012, 09:43 PM
dieselchip, do you know firmware and Version of soft with update you say before?


send me link on pm please thx

moky
5th June, 2012, 09:47 PM
sw 04/12 is the last but the most important is version of fimware because new cars on this sw need firmware 52..

Dade84
5th June, 2012, 09:49 PM
sorry
I know the firmware and software version does not, unfortunately, a list of supported vehicles have received via e-mail and the price is ? 1300

moky
5th June, 2012, 09:50 PM
i think it's too expensive dade84..

Dade84
5th June, 2012, 09:53 PM
maybe you have another source? PN

moky
5th June, 2012, 09:55 PM
i think persons here will contact you dade84 :D

moky
5th June, 2012, 09:57 PM
Services :: AES Universal Flasher - April 2012 Update - Auto Electronics Shop - Car Diagnostics, Immo, Keys, Mileage and Other Tools (http://www.auto-electronics.mobi/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29843)


Chip Tuning Tools :: OBD Tools :: AES Universal Flasher (OBD-2 + BDM + Tricore) (SW April 2012) - Auto Electronics Shop - Car Diagnostics, Immo, Keys, Mileage and Other Tools (http://www.auto-electronics.mobi/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29839)

please :D

sorry new sw - 49 euro :)


Thx

firmware 48/50 is the last,they work on fw 53 wait and see !

worldofchiptuning
5th June, 2012, 11:37 PM
Thx

firmware 48/50 is the last,they work on fw 53 wait and see !


no sense to work on 53 if hardware is same
when hw will update change situation

chris_e36_328
5th June, 2012, 11:44 PM
Is this some sort of promoting European clones for ridiculous prices? I think yes:)

Get a grip mate, pople are only trying to help you not to fall into the same trap others did. The truth is the euro tools are of better quality and in most cases you get much better support, but this is already explained in this thread. Of course the choice is yours..

mamanacusa
5th June, 2012, 11:59 PM
Why do i see here many people talking about things they don't even know how they work?

Firmware versions are USELESS after 48 if you are having japaneses, so this only worth and really matters to legal users. If you want to take a clone you are up to choose what market offers. I can provide clones with any firmware version, making software cosmetical change. So what?

Simply consider buying tools if they worth the money and if they are really tested, and proven to work. Else, buy legal and expect as much support as a clone from Mr. Adolfo.

That's the worst support team ever on the chiptuning business! And you know why their tools are cloned? Because the screw customers and ruins some people business by not offering propper support.

Cloned tool is good, as a second tool, cheap and working not expecting more than a version of software rather than the one it comes with.

I got legal tools and never planned to buy a galletto, till i bought a good working clone. Working flawless for chiptuning and doing what it should. Now what, should i ask my seller for more support, for newer versions or a new hardware that supports future cars?

If i want to support development i buy a legal tool, if i don't care about the future i spend less money and work with a tool that's not such a bad deal at all compared to the price of an original tool at the end of the first year!

A cloned for 1300? is for me better than a legal tool that sooner or later will be obselete without prior notice and not doing more than simple paper weight tool on the desk.


People want to save money to earn money, then i can only realise either they are cowboys on the business or simple are trying to do business on every purchase. Acquiring a new tool is a signal of business growth.

I can't understand some price tag cowboys out there...

I wonder if they had to pay for support on these business, and if they were no foruns to help out on every subject nowadays.


GTG C U!

mbtun
6th June, 2012, 09:14 AM
Get a grip mate, pople are only trying to help you not to fall into the same trap others did. The truth is the euro tools are of better quality and in most cases you get much better support, but this is already explained in this thread. Of course the choice is yours..


You didn't get my point ... where I said "ridiculous high prices".
If the genuine was 3000 does a clone worth 1300 when you have no support and no warranty? But wait and see. Piasini clone started at the same price and now it's 375$ and dropping fast. In 3-5 months galletto will follow same path.

8k65m
6th June, 2012, 09:51 AM
Now I see only the offer FGtech galletto 2-master $450 from China.

moky
6th June, 2012, 11:31 AM
no sense to work on 53 if hardware is same
when hw will update change situation

You and mamanacusa don't understand and don't know galletto with 04/12.Some new cars on list must work with firmware V52 and actually it's firmware V48..it's clear or i make a screen? ....V52 or 53 permit to work on this cars and for japan cars i know but it's not the problem,not cracked actually..it's why i say,we must wait for firmare 52 or 53 to work on this actually obsoletes list of cars...and don't forget that galletto continue updates too for hardware with no options japan cars...




.

niwat_spp
6th June, 2012, 11:37 AM
Now I see only the offer FGtech galletto 2-master $450 from China.
Please show me web link friend. I want to see it
Thank

moky
6th June, 2012, 11:51 AM
Good luck ! :D

glk96000
6th June, 2012, 12:21 PM
:stickyman:

at this price many people will be able to test

niwat_spp
6th June, 2012, 01:32 PM
Good luck ! :D
:top:thank friend

Dade84
6th June, 2012, 02:44 PM
firmware comes from what was offered to me is 48

Marmes
6th June, 2012, 03:46 PM
why so much fuss about all this?
If people want to buy from china, let them buy.
As far as we are concerned about support, let us analize.
People in Europe that buy original from Galletto have less support than buying from other european clone dealers. People that bought it know it's a fact. I never heard of anybody that bought a clone from any of the sellers here say that their tool is broken and got no answer or solution. Sure you can buy from China for 500 dolars , but if something goes wrong, you waste your time sending it back and your money with postage and if they don't accept it you need to buy another one, meaning you need to spend another 500 dolars. Those 500 dolars are not 500 dolars, if you have to pay taxes, even when they declare less value. In some countries people from duties are not stupid and are registred in most of the sites you go, and know the prices you pay, if anything goes wrong, they keep your interfaces or you pay so much taxes that's not worth the trouble.
So you make your calculations and see. At least i am not rich to risk 500 dolars.
As far as firmware concerned, even if you have original , you are not obliged to update your tool. If you pay your annual fee you still have support for software. You won't be able to make some cars, but you didn't pay for that either. I know some people with original gallettos with firmware 43 or 47, and still pay their annual fees . For other ecus they opted for other tools of the market that are much better for JTAG, BDM or whatever than galletto tool is instead of paying 2000 euros for an upgrade.
For 1500 euros you can buy an original Ktag.

BR

Marmes
6th June, 2012, 04:31 PM
You didn't get my point ... where I said "ridiculous high prices".
If the genuine was 3000 does a clone worth 1300 when you have no support and no warranty? But wait and see. Piasini clone started at the same price and now it's 375$ and dropping fast. In 3-5 months galletto will follow same path.

Yes it's dropping because they produced a lot and no one is buying and if there was a lot of interest in this tool, for sure chinese wouldn't be selling cheap, they are not stupid :D ! People are learning that is better to buy in Europe.
Piasinis are still sold in Europe for more than 800 euros .
European ones. And fyi Piasini is alive and well with newer versions.

Novik_UA
7th June, 2012, 07:17 AM
I wan't good tool, but I will not buy clon for 1700$.
Galletto and company provide new protocols, so they must to buy ECU, work on it, pay to workers, and taxes. As we se some pages ago, adapter is not to difficult to make. So I don't understand, why cloners who just steal the tool ( provide some money to crack it), want so much for it.
You can sell it for 500$, and have many more money from it than sell for 1700.
Chinese will buy one from new hardwares, and will make it very soon, if they start to produce it, you will never stop it.

Anmed
7th June, 2012, 08:01 AM
I do not understand what the dispute.
Always have been, and developers have always been pirates.
When you have money - buy the original.
When you have no money - buy a clone, you try, burns, earn money and buy the original. Or do not buy.
"Jedem das seine"(c)

ipejasinovic
7th June, 2012, 08:43 AM
I wan't good tool, but I will not buy clon for 1700$.
Galletto and company provide new protocols, so they must to buy ECU, work on it, pay to workers, and taxes. As we se some pages ago, adapter is not to difficult to make. So I don't understand, why cloners who just steal the tool ( provide some money to crack it), want so much for it.
You can sell it for 500$, and have many more money from it than sell for 1700.
Chinese will buy one from new hardwares, and will make it very soon, if they start to produce it, you will never stop it.
It's not some money for cracking, but lot of money for cracking. Once clone is sold, there is no much possibilities to charge additional amount for that same clone, but with original, you have subscriptions which you must pay etc...

Also, chinese didn't make thir own project, but bought one and wrong one. That's good thing for EU makers and sellers.

gedas8899
7th June, 2012, 08:12 PM
Hello i need advice i want buy FGTech Galletto 2-Master EOBD2 but not understan what is diferent between this
FGTech Galletto 2-Master EOBD2-OBDAUTO---BMW OPS VAG-COM,Tacho Universal,KWP2000,BMW Scanner,BMW Carsoft,ELM323,Code Reader,Can-bus (http://obdauto.com/views.asp?hw_id=1848#)
and this http://car-prog.com/ i see just price diferent.
And if possible read oplel insignia ecu with this tool i think inside edc17 tricore.
thanks

worldofchiptuning
7th June, 2012, 08:53 PM
why so much fuss about all this?
If people want to buy from china, let them buy.
As far as we are concerned about support, let us analize.
People in Europe that buy original from Galletto have less support than buying from other european clone dealers. People that bought it know it's a fact. I never heard of anybody that bought a clone from any of the sellers here say that their tool is broken and got no answer or solution. Sure you can buy from China for 500 dolars , but if something goes wrong, you waste your time sending it back and your money with postage and if they don't accept it you need to buy another one, meaning you need to spend another 500 dolars. Those 500 dolars are not 500 dolars, if you have to pay taxes, even when they declare less value. In some countries people from duties are not stupid and are registred in most of the sites you go, and know the prices you pay, if anything goes wrong, they keep your interfaces or you pay so much taxes that's not worth the trouble.
So you make your calculations and see. At least i am not rich to risk 500 dolars.
As far as firmware concerned, even if you have original , you are not obliged to update your tool. If you pay your annual fee you still have support for software. You won't be able to make some cars, but you didn't pay for that either. I know some people with original gallettos with firmware 43 or 47, and still pay their annual fees . For other ecus they opted for other tools of the market that are much better for JTAG, BDM or whatever than galletto tool is instead of paying 2000 euros for an upgrade.
For 1500 euros you can buy an original Ktag.

BR


original ktag for 1500 euro where is ??
i buy now !!!

see well please.

masterb
7th June, 2012, 09:03 PM
@worldofchiptuning
ktag for 1500?
.. i think it depens on how many plugins inside ?

OBDAUTO---BMW OPS VAG-COM,Tacho Universal,KWP2000,BMW Scanner,BMW Carsoft,ELM323,Code Reader,Can-bus (http://obdauto.com) --> china clone ! (maybe with k-line error)
http://car-prog.com/ --> EU clone (maybe without error)

blacktoy
7th June, 2012, 10:25 PM
Hi at all,


As already many other told below you can find pro and contra of chines clone (compared to EU clones):

PRO:
- low price

CONTRA:
-faulty HW ( EDC15,EDC16,Trucks, 24Volt ..)
-no support (they mostly don't know what they sell)
-cloned parts (for EU Clones only Geniune Parts are used -> Farnell, Digikey)
-cheap quality at all

BTW:
Which FW does the chines bast... are using (on a picture i could see FW 24).

In my opinion it is better to buy a EU clone (Tested, better quality, support) because the ECU's for which the Clone is used, aren't so cheap and it takes mostly a couple of day's to get a new ECU -> customer will kill you if he needs his car everyday !!!!

AGS
8th June, 2012, 04:20 AM
Hi at all,


As already many other told below you can find pro and contra of chines clone (compared to EU clones):

PRO:
- low price

CONTRA:
-faulty HW ( EDC15,EDC16,Trucks, 24Volt ..)
-no support (they mostly don't know what they sell)
-cloned parts (for EU Clones only Geniune Parts are used -> Farnell, Digikey)
-cheap quality at all

BTW:
Which FW does the chines bast... are using (on a picture i could see FW 24).

In my opinion it is better to buy a EU clone (Tested, better quality, support) because the ECU's for which the Clone is used, aren't so cheap and it takes mostly a couple of day's to get a new ECU -> customer will kill you if he needs his car everyday !!!!
I agree,bad that china clone is to old hw version,i do not know quality on PCB,maybe are all ok,one to one when Euro.
Maybe problem are in version firmware.:hmmmm:

ipejasinovic
8th June, 2012, 08:28 AM
Maybe problem are in version firmware.:hmmmm:Not problem only in firmware, but in hardware too.

zecas
8th June, 2012, 08:40 PM
please feedback from any real users of the monkey clone??

please dont say that all euro is good i owned one year ago
cost 1700 without ecu/boot cable and with wrong assembled OBD2 cable. soldering shit job, check some post back i have put picture. Worked good had no problems sold it some time ago.

also true that i saw here (dont remember where) an EU clone with exelent soldering job and quality

AGS
9th June, 2012, 03:31 AM
please feedback from any real users of the monkey clone??

please dont say that all euro is good i owned one year ago
cost 1700 without ecu/boot cable and with wrong assembled OBD2 cable. soldering shit job, check some post back i have put picture. Worked good had no problems sold it some time ago.

also true that i saw here (dont remember where) an EU clone with exelent soldering job and quality
Maybe,maybe...but i think that chinese clones in future be good,no worse than in the euro:cool:

zecas
9th June, 2012, 11:31 AM
Maybe,maybe...but i think that chinese clones in future be good,no worse than in the euro:cool:

agree
now thay have Fw 50

waiting fore feedback :bebored:

worldofchiptuning
9th June, 2012, 12:34 PM
I agree,bad that china clone is to old hw version,i do not know quality on PCB,maybe are all ok,one to one when Euro.
Maybe problem are in version firmware.:hmmmm:


china clone is v50
work with dongle

but i don't know if will block late one year

oem
9th June, 2012, 03:08 PM
China clone now with fw v50. Working perfect wits some cars. Not problem with blocking. :)

looly
9th June, 2012, 03:13 PM
China clone now with fw v50. Working perfect wits some cars. Not problem with blocking. :)

Have u personally tried it? Tricore aswell? And u say with "some" cars so do u know which cars dont work? Thanks

ovi_dk
9th June, 2012, 06:24 PM
I think the price of galleto goes down very quiqli:))
FGTech Galletto 2-Master - $350.00 : go car diagnostic , auto service a,diagnostic tool,scanner,car,auto scanner,car diagnostic (http://www.gocardiag.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66&products_id=695&zenid=7cfc807e079e4294230e376dc9db6ebd)
A friend of mine order the tool,and next wek i will test this interface!From 1500 to 350 its just a step:)))I guess next mounts we will se the galleto for free:P

Anmed
9th June, 2012, 09:48 PM
I guess next mounts we will se the galleto for free:P It happened with the first version FGTech, but it is not too much problem, is not it?

Marmes
10th June, 2012, 12:01 AM
I think Mr. Galletto has a few tricks on his sleeve like mr Piasini.
There are still updates for Piasini.
And original Gallettos will work for a long time. I think next versions
even if chinese buy original, they won't be able to crack, only if they buy original tools each update that appears . Because Mr. Galletto will lock them on site and they become obsolete very fast.
And if it's at 350 dolars there are a few people that already were ripped by chinese, at least 100 dolars. And if they are selling cheap is because someone told them their interfaces are not working that good.
And check the warranty tab. One month they replace, after that you pay repair or just buy another one!
Let's see who will buy in this forum and ask for help :D

Roader
10th June, 2012, 02:23 AM
China clone now with fw v50. Working perfect wits some cars. Not problem with blocking. :)from where is good to buy?

AGS
10th June, 2012, 05:14 AM
China clone now with fw v50. Working perfect wits some cars. Not problem with blocking. :)
Please send to me link to pm
thanks

masterb
10th June, 2012, 12:23 PM
China clone now with fw v50. Working perfect wits some cars. Not problem with blocking. :)

can you send some pics ..
and which cars you test the interface

br
Pe

Anmed
10th June, 2012, 02:49 PM
Let's see who will buy in this forum and ask for help
I will buy this device. I hope I do not need help. I also hope to make money on a normal tool. Acquisition of a clone - just a temporary measure, the stage in the development of ...

worldofchiptuning
10th June, 2012, 04:22 PM
China clone now with fw v50. Working perfect wits some cars. Not problem with blocking. :)


friend sorry but in your dream...

paulserk
10th June, 2012, 09:26 PM
original pcb and copy 1 to 1 made in EU


why is their no mcu on the one board?

mamanacusa
10th June, 2012, 11:47 PM
Do you guys want me to get a video in here of a tool loading software showing FIRMWARE VERSION 99 ?

Cometical changes are possible, as long as software cracked :)

Bear in mind that a tool that works on newer software can become valid after a proof video of flashing cars with that higher firmware need...

So stop talking about firmware unless you are 100% sure of what you are saying.

I can make software show version 0099-9999 with serial 9999 and so what? I'm a good software cracker!

worldofchiptuning
11th June, 2012, 12:48 AM
Do you guys want me to get a video in here of a tool loading software showing FIRMWARE VERSION 99 ?

Cometical changes are possible, as long as software cracked :)

Bear in mind that a tool that works on newer software can become valid after a proof video of flashing cars with that higher firmware need...

So stop talking about firmware unless you are 100% sure of what you are saying.

I can make software show version 0099-9999 with serial 9999 and so what? I'm a good software cracker!


original tool was update to 48 directly 53
50 don't exist for me
so i thilk china clone is old version 24 like screen that all can see

bye

tuningschool
11th June, 2012, 02:01 PM
I had another BIG truble with ORIGINAL GALLETTO last week

So now i decide to stop pay update.
i need someone can help me to PATCH it and use it FULL after expyry date. Ihave account active till 31th May
It work fine at all now, but i know he soon stop.
So i want to renewal it forever.
Please help me.

wiski
11th June, 2012, 02:15 PM
You are willing to convert original tool . Interesting.. What kind of trouble you have

physyc
11th June, 2012, 02:56 PM
why not?
i went down the same road...

I had problem when i was in subscription (the last week)
i send to adolfo. he answer me 10 days! yes 10days! later, that the problem is solved. BUT my subscription is ended and need to renew befor he send me solution.
So no 1000 euro no solution.
In 10 days i myself had found solution for my problem. But i will never ever spend an other euro to that bastard.
Now my original fgtech is working 100%.

Service from adolfo= 0
Repair by Adolfo in first year i had to pay 500euro for a problem i never was told what it was. 1 year legal warranty? whahaha he lought me right in the face. no money, no return of galletto. when galletto went dead, i used original mpps and read/write without problem, so it was not the car who made problem.

so i spend 3800 euro on the tool in the first year. than 2times subscription. ths guy takes almost 6000euro from me in 3 years time, than tell me to pay onother 1000 to get solution i wait 10 days for?
Never again!

now at least i can use my tool without it is in hostage by mr Adolfo. I have mail where he wrote black on white it will keep working after submision ended. Well in my case it did not. (i don't know if he blocked it after i didn't want to pay for new subscription, or all fgtech go dead after end of subscription)

If, and i say IF (littl chance to that) i will ever want to return the galletto to adolfo for repair or hardware update. i just put back my original dump in the eeprom and nothing ever happend.

tuningschool
11th June, 2012, 03:19 PM
The FGTECH burn one ecu (TRICORE CONENCTION WRONG , IT HAPPEN TIME AGO AND THEY UPDATE THE MANUAL BUT I HAD ORIGINAL WRONG ;) ) and blocked one other last week.

So now they want money to upgrade what?!?!? I told him (ADOLFO) is true or not about your HW\SW truble? they always respond "false". But every time i wrote with other TOOL the same ecu (10 minutes after ) all is ok. And retry with FG bring me truble again.
So no more time and no more money.
I have patched my self it,(but is quite boring procedure) so i need someone to send me something to patch it everytime i need to use FULL.
Dont send me link to buy clone.
I have hw original and not interested in other.
regards

peregrine
12th June, 2012, 12:23 AM
I think the price of galleto goes down very quiqli:))
FGTech Galletto 2-Master - $350.00 : go car diagnostic , auto service a,diagnostic tool,scanner,car,auto scanner,car diagnostic (http://www.gocardiag.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66&products_id=695&zenid=7cfc807e079e4294230e376dc9db6ebd)
A friend of mine order the tool,and next wek i will test this interface!From 1500 to 350 its just a step:)))I guess next mounts we will se the galleto for free:P


Hi,

Does it work?

worldofchiptuning
12th June, 2012, 01:25 AM
The FGTECH burn one ecu (TRICORE CONENCTION WRONG , IT HAPPEN TIME AGO AND THEY UPDATE THE MANUAL BUT I HAD ORIGINAL WRONG ;) ) and blocked one other last week.

So now they want money to upgrade what?!?!? I told him (ADOLFO) is true or not about your HW\SW truble? they always respond "false". But every time i wrote with other TOOL the same ecu (10 minutes after ) all is ok. And retry with FG bring me truble again.
So no more time and no more money.
I have patched my self it,(but is quite boring procedure) so i need someone to send me something to patch it everytime i need to use FULL.
Dont send me link to buy clone.
I have hw original and not interested in other.
regards


now which version do you have ? 48 or 53 ?
because if do you have 53 wait again little time
you will patch this version

AGS
12th June, 2012, 04:38 AM
Hi,

Does it work?
it is to old version 24
Is it worth buying antique?:stupid:

oem
12th June, 2012, 08:21 AM
China clone fw 50 :)

e.t.
12th June, 2012, 11:17 AM
Does it works?

autodiagnostic
12th June, 2012, 11:37 AM
hi anybody have used this tool,?
isit good?
prices?
new clones possible?
iv been on the website and i cant see any info about this tool?
thanks

I always download software, PDF from this website. try to download fg tech Galletto 2 CD software, finding there are driver and user manual.
http://www.chinaautodiag.com/html/fgtech-galletto-2-master-eobd2-software-free-download-283.html

wiski
12th June, 2012, 12:16 PM
I requested a picture of inside and this is picture of chinese version (now which version is actualy ...). I'll be ordering so i'll comment as it arrives.

tuningschool
12th June, 2012, 12:45 PM
now which version do you have ? 48 or 53 ?
because if do you have 53 wait again little time
you will patch this version
48
why?
can i unlock it?

worldofchiptuning
12th June, 2012, 02:09 PM
48
why?
can i unlock it?

yes sure
48 is last version first of 53

worldofchiptuning
12th June, 2012, 02:14 PM
China clone fw 50 :)


real is 24
50 you see only on software

50 don't exist
for me more problem you will

Marmes
12th June, 2012, 03:37 PM
I requested a picture of inside and this is picture of chinese version (now which version is actualy ...). I'll be ordering so i'll comment as it arrives.

This is absolutely perfect!
They even copied the errors!
My best Regards to China!

ipejasinovic
12th June, 2012, 03:43 PM
They even copied the errors!
:D :D :D

oem
12th June, 2012, 05:49 PM
I not tested yet on EDC17/MED17. But tested on edc16/edc15/me7/me9...

wiski
12th June, 2012, 05:50 PM
This is absolutely perfect!
They even copied the errors!
My best Regards to China!
Errors/ no errors they copied . works/doesn't i'll let you now

physyc
12th June, 2012, 06:21 PM
Does it works?

If someone of the chinese clone users would upload the sw, we would know don't we.
uploading the software is as easy as uploading a picture, so...
don't show us pictures, show us software...

would like to compare sw 24 to 50

Marmes
12th June, 2012, 06:42 PM
Errors/ no errors they copied . works/doesn't i'll let you now

I know it already. Just by looking at it.
It's sad to buy from china, at least our cloners in europe try to maks as close as original and with quality components.

BR

blacktoy
12th June, 2012, 08:11 PM
i get software from a chinese seller and i will upload it tomorrow

i looked at exe file and it is dated with september 2011

further when you try to start soft without gal connected you get error message "no dongle found"

with ori soft or soft from EU clone you get no error message when you try to start without interface connected

wiski
12th June, 2012, 08:16 PM
I don't want to make soap opera from this but by look at pcb in pic it doesn't look so bad. Quality material, well they used to put poor nais relays at bdm100 but in this one it looks like they put better ones. European model probably have better soldering but components we all now where they come from.
This is my last reply cause i started to sound like i'm selling this stuff. When i test it i will share the result.

Roader
12th June, 2012, 08:16 PM
This is absolutely perfect!
They even copied the errors!
My best Regards to China!ok,can you tell us where is the error?

Also can someone tell that he have China clone and work OK at least on EDC16 and BDM?

blacktoy
12th June, 2012, 08:22 PM
ok,can you tell us where is the error?

Also can someone tell that he have China clone and work OK at least on EDC16 and BDM?

I don't think that anyone will tell you the exact errors of the chinese clone.

If you want an error free Gal 2 Clone than you have 3 options:

- buy EU clone
- live with the errors
- try to find them by yourself


br

zecas
12th June, 2012, 08:29 PM
ok,can you tell us where is the error?

dont see any any error exacly the same as EU clone i had
execpt the china clone looks better quality solder job

try to ignore all the clone sellers reply?s and waith for reply for the china clone users (not sellers/traders)

gzk
12th June, 2012, 08:38 PM
it was the same story with mpps . when i buy my first v3 from viaken alu box it was talled many bad thing on it , 2 year later still working and never have trouble with . after i buy a v5 mcu and now V8 put on it , work ok . have buy V12 chinese on plastic no problem . chinese galetto 1260 no problem , chinese bdm100 ok , chinese vcds 11.X no problem .

since i have found a god chinese seller i had trouble only on 2 cable on aprox 20 tool i have buy from them (lexia , can ,vcds , mbstar etc...) 1 vcds come faulty and 1 autocom old gen stoping working . all other are N?1

mbtun
12th June, 2012, 08:45 PM
it will always be like this ... the European sellers are trying to sell same thing at triple the price. they probably buy hw from china, update the fw and add 1000 euro to the price :)

eprommazza
12th June, 2012, 09:21 PM
it proved many times that with both piasini fg tech will always say that China is not good because they have to sell ... regards

zecas
12th June, 2012, 09:31 PM
also use mpps aluminium box updated to v12 and changed the usb B connector till now worked on all

ipejasinovic
12th June, 2012, 09:38 PM
they probably buy hw from china, update the fw and add 1000 euro to the price :)
Not true, of course. EU clones available 1 year. Chinese 15 days?!


it proved many times that with both piasini fg tech will always say that China is not good because they have to sell ... regards
In this case, EU is better. We know why ;)


ok,can you tell us where is the error?
Of course not.


dont see any any error exacly the same as EU clone i had
execpt the china clone looks better quality solder job
Yes, you had first clone with errors. Now, some new are available.

eprommazza
12th June, 2012, 09:50 PM
UE is better!!only need differents 1000e

: Ciao:

ipejasinovic
12th June, 2012, 09:56 PM
One or two burned ECUs with Chinese tool + your time = EU clone

jjg47
12th June, 2012, 10:17 PM
Galletto was selled first in EUrope and project was make in europe, then someone sell project to china............. i dont think its same but maibe some chine clones can work ok, about old gallettos, i buy more then 100, sometines pakages come all with rosstech drivers and have to reprogram them... other cames ok, but i already block a ECU with this,,,, all is about lucky, they are good in some product other not so mush, buy 374 programer.., nec programer, never works, some product are nok and they still sell, some supliers i have tell me if its ok or not, but when you are new client they dont care they send you even if dont work ok.

physyc
12th June, 2012, 10:23 PM
ok,can you tell us where is the error?

Also can someone tell that he have China clone and work OK at least on EDC16 and BDM?

If you want just that you better get mpps and bdm 100 clone. much cheaper

Stanton
12th June, 2012, 10:24 PM
My 2 pence:

I had Piasini clone from EU maker, it works absolutely perfect. A china one MIGHT be the same, BUT I have the makers phone number, we speak regularly, he knows what he is selling, he knows if there are faults, he can repair IF necessary, HE provides a level of support which exceeds the original manufacturer!
You simply wont get that from a china seller...at all...as 99% they dont fully know what they are replicating.

We have a similar/same situation with the FGTech.

It simply makes sense to spend 50% more so you save 200% hassle.

Miltiadis
12th June, 2012, 10:34 PM
So can anyone tell the difference between china and eu clone? I want to buy this tool and still i am very confused witch to choose. I can't afford to burn an ecu as i am no proffessional. I want only to tune my wifes car (Renault Megene I 1.4 16v) and my brothers ford fiesta 1.6 16V sim210. And this tool seams to cover both. Is there any other reliable clone that can do those 2 cars?

Marmes
12th June, 2012, 10:45 PM
So can anyone tell the difference between china and eu clone? I want to buy this tool and still i am very confused witch to choose. I can't afford to burn an ecu as i am no proffessional. I want only to tune my wifes car (Renault Megene I 1.4 16v) and my brothers ford fiesta 1.6 16V sim210. And this tool seams to cover both. Is there any other reliable clone that can do those 2 cars?
You have a professional tuner on top of you. (Stanton) it's much cheaper and safer to ask him or other if you want to make the job.
If you are no professional you won't be able to understand and change the ecu paramenters.

BR

Miltiadis
12th June, 2012, 10:52 PM
i don't want to ennoy others by pm other users, i beleive that forums excist so that everybody can discuss various subjects and everybody can learn from other peoples questions. I am not completely irelevant in ecu tuning as i managed to tune my own car (1.8t) so far untill a desent state. I am slowly learning and try to be better. And as i wrote before i don't use chiptuning for a living only for hobby and i cannot afford to spend a fortune for a flasher only to use it for 2 or 3 cars. Thank you for the answer thought. Regards.

zecas
12th June, 2012, 10:58 PM
after all this years i still need to figure out how to burn an ecu with a tool. fore me it is just an urban mite that i hear since the first clones of kwp

Stanton
12th June, 2012, 10:59 PM
I really wouldnt bother trying to tune either of those cars. NA gasoline are inherently difficult to get just MARGINAL gains, and this is using full data logging on a dyno. Especially so with small capacity you mention.

So on an amateur level you will struggle i.e its not worth it.
They arent the same as a 1.8T where you can get a nice moderate gain very easily.

Miltiadis
12th June, 2012, 11:02 PM
I want to tune them for different reasons. My brothers fiesta has now 2.0l engine the old one has died. And my wifes megane will be converded to lpg. I just want to increase the timing a bit to benifit from the lpg conversion to that. The other one need some work. Thank you for the concern.

Marmes
12th June, 2012, 11:03 PM
after all this years i still need to figure out how to burn an ecu with a tool. fore me it is just an urban mite that i hear since the first clones of kwp

Ecus, don't get burned with flash tools, but they can get bricked.
And as a professional you are don't tell us that you never made a mistake and bricked one :)