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SvenR1
11th July, 2016, 09:36 PM
Hi,

I reworked my kess, but now it wont read id or ecu content. Can somebody help?

Parts list, all soldered under microscope, muratas ara grounded, no short cirquits.....

Transistor, pnp, 45v, 0.5a, sot23, BC807-40,215
1081222

Diode, tvs, can, sot-23, PESD2CAN
1510712

ransistor, npn, bipolar, 50v, 100ma, 200mw, sot23
BCR112E6327

Transistor, digital, sot-23, PDTA144ET
8736987

Filter, cap, emi, 4700pf, 2a, 3 term, NFE61PT472C1H9L
9528229

Transistor, npn, 45v, sot-23, BC817,215
1081223
Cap, tant, 1uf, 35v, case a, T491A105K035AT
1457411

Cap, tant, 10uf, 16v, case a, T491A106K016AT
1457414

Cap, tant, 220uf, 10v, case d, T491D227K010AT
1457505

teamtuner
12th July, 2016, 09:34 AM
Hi,

I reworked my kess, but now it wont read id or ecu content. Can somebody help?

Parts list, all soldered under microscope, muratas ara grounded, no short cirquits.....

Transistor, pnp, 45v, 0.5a, sot23, BC807-40,215
1081222

Diode, tvs, can, sot-23, PESD2CAN
1510712

ransistor, npn, bipolar, 50v, 100ma, 200mw, sot23
BCR112E6327

Transistor, digital, sot-23, PDTA144ET
8736987

Filter, cap, emi, 4700pf, 2a, 3 term, NFE61PT472C1H9L
9528229

Transistor, npn, 45v, sot-23, BC817,215
1081223
Cap, tant, 1uf, 35v, case a, T491A105K035AT
1457411

Cap, tant, 10uf, 16v, case a, T491A106K016AT
1457414

Cap, tant, 220uf, 10v, case d, T491D227K010AT
1457505
post printscreen image here with what show you when yuo press info buton on ksuite

SvenR1
12th July, 2016, 11:19 AM
Hi thanks for reply, I found the problem one murata filter had cold solder joint (murphy law, it was k- line murata :) ) All okey now reads fast. Another problem is when I choos subaru denso ecu, no matter which one it sais invalid protocol file. Also some VAG ecus have same problem (Vag simos PCR2.1). I did sd card format, but nothing.
Kess info:

FW 4.036
serial: K09021102
customer code c0999
group code c0999

Software Im using is 2.13, I also have K tag and it works in same k-suite.

Thanks

Astra69
12th July, 2016, 12:15 PM
If you have no problem with Vag simos PCR2.1 before you rework your kess, the problem is not the sw or sd files.

SvenR1
12th July, 2016, 01:08 PM
This problem was before rework also.

teamtuner
13th July, 2016, 08:48 PM
Hi thanks for reply, I found the problem one murata filter had cold solder joint (murphy law, it was k- line murata :) ) All okey now reads fast. Another problem is when I choos subaru denso ecu, no matter which one it sais invalid protocol file. Also some VAG ecus have same problem (Vag simos PCR2.1). I did sd card format, but nothing.
Kess info:

FW 4.036
serial: K09021102
customer code c0999
group code c0999

Software Im using is 2.13, I also have K tag and it works in same k-suite.

Thanks
did you bought kess with this firmware from china store,or you updated your kess to this firmware...?

zijad77
16th July, 2016, 12:08 PM
Any chance to find fw 3.099?
it would be great.

teerak2uk
16th July, 2016, 12:25 PM
Any chance to find fw 3.099?
it would be great.
Why 3.099?

zijad77
17th July, 2016, 09:02 AM
Why 3.099?
I had my kess v2 connected to internet and want to restore it, my Device is type M, FW 3.099
Thanks for your replay.

smirnoff_rules
17th July, 2016, 03:08 PM
sorry to jump in but lm looking for anyone that reworks ktag , can any DK Veterans pm me with details of anyone they know who does it , need rework and f/w update

SvenR1
18th July, 2016, 08:18 AM
did you bought kess with this firmware from china store,or you updated your kess to this firmware...?

Hi, Yes I bought it with this firmware from china store.

teamtuner
18th July, 2016, 10:13 AM
Hi, Yes I bought it with this firmware from china store.
as you must to know...this is full version kess...and work with 2.08 sw version...other shi+ version sw have thoses invalid protocols...
other things mate...did china guys told you how you need to reset tokens into this firmware?...because is a little particulary situation for this fw

extremebike
18th July, 2016, 01:40 PM
Hello,
I'm looking for the original files for virtual readings of kess v2 .
someone has them ?
Folder : res / ori

SvenR1
21st July, 2016, 10:01 AM
as you must to know...this is full version kess...and work with 2.08 sw version...other shi+ version sw have thoses invalid protocols...
other things mate...did china guys told you how you need to reset tokens into this firmware?...because is a little particulary situation for this fw

They did not mention how to reset, they said it have no limitation of tokens, this is the page where I bought it: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-Free-Shipping-KESS-V2-V2-23-Newest-OBD2-Manager-Tuning-Kit-No-Token-Limit-Kess/32482860731.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.83.duf3DK

thanks,

Sven

teamtuner
21st July, 2016, 10:53 AM
They did not mention how to reset, they said it have no limitation of tokens, this is the page where I bought it: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-Free-Shipping-KESS-V2-V2-23-Newest-OBD2-Manager-Tuning-Kit-No-Token-Limit-Kess/32482860731.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.83.duf3DK

thanks,

Sven
will see after 30 write mod files...if is no limited:)

tango
21st July, 2016, 10:52 PM
or less
some people are getting less than 30 writes from this fw

lpf01
22nd July, 2016, 12:46 PM
Argh Bollocks. :)

Disabled the WIFI/Ethernet
Updated the FW
Updated the SD
Installed 2.08 - removed contents
Copied the contents of the 2.08 folder
Copied the update folder
Starting KSuite

Then BANG - "External Exception EEFFACE" :/

When plugging in the Kessv2 (USB->Computer) the red LED just blinks once every second - this cannot be normal?

Same after change NXP, do you had any solution for that?
With j link connected works well, as the hardware as the software, i think there is some power supply issues....

Edit: usb cable fault.

SvenR1
23rd July, 2016, 08:32 PM
or less
some people are getting less than 30 writes from this fw

Lets see, but nothing to worry about, after 30 writes it have been earned me enougt to buy oem kess :) Anybody know about K-tag, is it also limited tokens? (6.070) Thanks

extremebike
24th July, 2016, 11:00 AM
Hello,
I'm looking for the original files for virtual readings of kess v2 .
someone has them ?
Folder : res / ori

finally found :)

teerak2uk
24th July, 2016, 11:35 AM
Lets see, but nothing to worry about, after 30 writes it have been earned me enougt to buy oem kess :) Anybody know about K-tag, is it also limited tokens? (6.070) Thanks
Yes limited

teamtuner
24th July, 2016, 11:41 AM
Lets see, but nothing to worry about, after 30 writes it have been earned me enougt to buy oem kess :) Anybody know about K-tag, is it also limited tokens? (6.070) Thanks
there is no logic here mate
you bought a clone...reworked this clone...spended money...for only 30 writes?........:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:...and you hope earn money for original tool....do you think that original will be unlimited?...NO...MUST TO PAY EVERYTHING THERE...even air...
and....YES...K-tag also is limited...need also tokens...

SvenR1
24th July, 2016, 05:41 PM
there is no logic here mate
you bought a clone...reworked this clone...spended money...for only 30 writes?........:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:...and you hope earn money for original tool....do you think that original will be unlimited?...NO...MUST TO PAY EVERYTHING THERE...even air...
and....YES...K-tag also is limited...need also tokens...

I cant afford to buy oem tools now thats why using clones. Is it possible to ge more out of this software or how to reset if needed?
Another thing I did not know that oem kess or k tag have limited tokens, how many writes without paying extra?

Thanks

teamtuner
24th July, 2016, 05:50 PM
I cant afford to buy oem tools now thats why using clones. Is it possible to ge more out of this software or how to reset if needed?

Thanks
ALL IS POSSIBLE in this worls...need only to want to do it...and also need to give help to the others if you want to be helped...so,first of all...use search buton,enjoy more time into our DK world,and be patience...i am sure that all your problems will have solution...
WHERE IS DK IS ALSO THE SOLUTION

tango
25th July, 2016, 12:26 PM
Lets see, but nothing to worry about, after 30 writes it have been earned me enougt to buy oem kess :) Anybody know about K-tag, is it also limited tokens? (6.070) Thanks

i think you miss read my post
i said some are getting LESS than 30 writes

viliukas
25th July, 2016, 02:04 PM
Hello guys, i bought kess v2 with 4.036 firmware version, maybe you could say which software would be stable for this kess v2 clone? Some people of this forum said that only 2.08 or 2.12 works without any problem with this tool. I found 2.12,2.15, 2.21 and 2.23 software versions in CD... Chinese wrote that it don't have token limit, so it depends from your software version if there is token limits or not? I don't understand, thanks friends for your answers.

P.S PCB great qualitty with Murata filters, pcb 2016.3.2.

firefox18
25th July, 2016, 02:18 PM
Look better for 2.08 greatings

Enviado desde mi GT-I9060C mediante Tapatalk

viliukas
25th July, 2016, 08:21 PM
so token limits it depends from software or firmware version? Chinese declarate that them tool don't have token limit and in CD there is from 2.06 till 2.23 versions of software no matter which software and it doesn't have that limit or it's not true what chinese declarate? :)

teamtuner
25th July, 2016, 09:20 PM
so token limits it depends from software or firmware version? Chinese declarate that them tool don't have token limit and in CD there is from 2.06 till 2.23 versions of software no matter which software and it doesn't have that limit or it's not true what chinese declarate? :)
keep dreaming to infinite tokens mate...

tango
25th July, 2016, 11:59 PM
so token limits it depends from software or firmware version? Chinese declarate that them tool don't have token limit and in CD there is from 2.06 till 2.23 versions of software no matter which software and it doesn't have that limit or it's not true what chinese declarate? :)

chinese words are misleading people like yourself
no token limits doesnt mean that tokens are not needed it means you have to get tokens to reset the 30 writes you have in the tool
therefore after the 30 tokens run out then you have to reset them to another 30
read through the forum and the info is all here
good luck

viliukas
26th July, 2016, 06:17 AM
thanks mates for info ;)

parik
28th July, 2016, 09:30 AM
hi, i tried write via obd my bdm readout and original file from alientech db. there is edc17cp44 and i got this errror. With edc17cp14 no problem rewrite bdm dump via obd. Any idea? Thx

carmageddon
9th August, 2016, 08:36 AM
BDM mode is ONLY for motorola and SC mpc

infineon tricore use boote mode

wiski
9th August, 2016, 09:11 AM
hi, i tried write via obd my bdm readout and original file from alientech db. there is edc17cp44 and i got this errror. With edc17cp14 no problem rewrite bdm dump via obd. Any idea? Thx
Have you made any changes to program code area ? Like tprot?

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parik
23rd August, 2016, 08:39 AM
yes, i made trot off, i think problem is old ksuite program.

wiski
23rd August, 2016, 09:32 AM
Try it without that change ;)

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Mitika69
25th August, 2016, 09:23 AM
Hi mates,
can someone would tell me if mine kess v2 is OK ? some components don't have same refs..
WFBCR112 --> mine have WF S90
A6C --> mine have PD19
1?F 35V --> V105 (seems OK when search on google found tantale capacitors 1uF 35V)
220?F 10V --> A227 (seems OK , 220uF 10V tantale capacitors)

thanks for help :stung:

panasonic1
12th September, 2016, 05:50 PM
Can anybody share whether they are correct transistors.397540

parik
13th September, 2016, 11:03 AM
great, worked:)


Try it without that change ;)

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duplikeytor
21st September, 2016, 03:42 AM
I notice this is not good quality.

Thanks!!!!

399006399007

teamtuner
21st September, 2016, 07:46 AM
I notice this is not good quality.

Thanks!!!!

399006399007
wrong...this is good ...as i can see...

vasco fernandes
21st September, 2016, 04:21 PM
I notice this is not good quality.

Thanks!!!!

399006399007

make zoom in transistor zone

firefox18
23rd September, 2016, 01:51 PM
I think it is good quality board

Enviado desde mi GT-I9060C mediante Tapatalk

tango
23rd September, 2016, 09:03 PM
That is a good clone
Nothing to worry about

pierre renault
23rd September, 2016, 09:10 PM
Hi duplikeytor.
to where you bought your clone,
thank you

smirnoff_rules
23rd September, 2016, 09:27 PM
Hi duplikeytor.
to where you bought your clone,
thank you

ld be interested to , do they do ktag too @duplikeytor

gazvts
23rd September, 2016, 10:09 PM
A friend of mine bought kess clone from Aliexpress store Bokins decent quality for china clone all transistors correct an filters gnd to board
he also got a good quality ktag from Aliexpress = obd factory shop

206QuikSilver
25th September, 2016, 05:29 PM
Someone tried these TOKENS?

absetup
25th September, 2016, 06:43 PM
Thx for sharing


Envoy? de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

hexer12
4th October, 2016, 02:08 PM
where can i get the sd-files vor kess v2 4.36?

teamtuner
4th October, 2016, 06:46 PM
where can i get the sd-files vor kess v2 4.36?
china guys maybe?

rgnaya
13th October, 2016, 09:42 PM
My kess and ktag have arrived! I will atach picture. It seems to be good clone or not? I think but only transistors and capacitors and speaker. It already have murata filter
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161013/d99a0b98a3785b69cc4a71607387cb19.jpg

dawidd3
18th October, 2016, 09:26 PM
Good clone, to be sure replace the capacitors and transistors.

kitnoos2002
21st October, 2016, 02:30 PM
Hello all !
I have just received my Kess from Bokins Aliexpress.

What can I do for reworking it to the best possible clone ? 24V fix, Kline and other...

Here is my Kess in high-resolution :
http://nsa37.casimages.com/img/2016/10/21/mini_161021033134359098.jpg (http://nsa37.casimages.com/img/2016/10/21/161021033134359098.jpg)

Thanks you very much for your help !
Chris

rgnaya
21st October, 2016, 04:16 PM
I have received components to rework. What about this 5b transistor?

Edited: yes it is bc807

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161021/bb76cb3905cfd6a97f27747c6d837af5.jpg

tango
21st October, 2016, 09:24 PM
your clone doesnt need rework

rgnaya
21st October, 2016, 09:31 PM
your clone doesnt need rework

Transistors also ok?http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161021/b0a727f67249607544175a958eee146d.jpg

tango
21st October, 2016, 09:38 PM
i cant make them out
just compare them to original by cross referencing the smd codes
if you have doubts then replace them
everything else is ok so leave them as is

miralem
26th October, 2016, 09:02 AM
@rgnaya and @kitnoos2002 your boards seams the same, it looks like quality one, can you PM me where did you buy it, I one to buy one, I have looked over aliexpress, and some others, and cannot decide what to buy
Thanks in advance!

Multipla
29th October, 2016, 01:30 AM
If you want totally file of Firmware 4036 is here:

408080

Pass: in Pm after alredy TKS or reputation
Tanks all member.


406883

mccloud90
30th October, 2016, 07:29 PM
I have kess clone. Look good quality as there is no jlink adapters. "kess v2 european 2.08 SW and 4.036 FW - NET SAFE HQ REWORKED PCB" is the name in that was sold for me :) I read one car with it with no errors but when i tried to read edc16cp34 it gives me wakeup error all the time. What can i do to fix this. Its so bad to receive this on another car. I read the car with bdm and flash original soft. Then tried again obd but still same error. I was thinking that the remap flash is locked. But still same after this. I tried to format and paste again the files into sd card but with no luck :( please somebody help me

kilpo
1st November, 2016, 09:26 AM
send pass
plees

Multipla
1st November, 2016, 10:49 AM
I have kess clone. Look good quality as there is no jlink adapters. "kess v2 european 2.08 SW and 4.036 FW - NET SAFE HQ REWORKED PCB" is the name in that was sold for me :) I read one car with it with no errors but when i tried to read edc16cp34 it gives me wakeup error all the time. What can i do to fix this. Its so bad to receive this on another car. I read the car with bdm and flash original soft. Then tried again obd but still same error. I was thinking that the remap flash is locked. But still same after this. I tried to format and paste again the files into sd card but with no luck :( please somebody help me

My file is EU try of this. Rework. If you thing is bad kess.

simon92
1st November, 2016, 02:05 PM
If you want totally file of Firmware 4036 is here:
https://mega.nz/#!BwNAxTSL (https://mega.nz/#!BwNAxTSL!eNENUOjiZmtgWrUH3tpkpTlgEz4JHQyG3LC_1XJ yvSA)!eNENUOjiZmtgWrUH3tpkpTlgEz4JHQyG3LC_1XJyvSA (https://mega.nz/#!BwNAxTSL!eNENUOjiZmtgWrUH3tpkpTlgEz4JHQyG3LC_1XJ yvSA)

Pass: in Pm after alredy TKS or reputation
Tanks all member.


406883



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mccloud90
1st November, 2016, 05:09 PM
My file is EU try of this. Rework. If you thing is bad kess.
canyousendpasswordplease:)

thunder2
3rd November, 2016, 09:26 PM
Hi friend
Can you send pass please

regards

almilo
13th November, 2016, 10:53 PM
pass pls.....thanks

skojevac
14th November, 2016, 12:09 PM
Hi there,
I am also looking for some info on decent quality clone kess v2 and been searching and reading a lot and about it and the more I read the more I'm confused. Adverts on the net are pretty much the same for every single device and obviously it's impossible to know what you get until you receive it. When it comes to tokens there are opposite claims. Some says they need to be recharged via j-link and by changing the onboard chip. Other info says tokens for certain devices with certain FW versions can be reset by software. Can anybody tell something about it from a first hand experience? I had one car, golf V tdi, remapped and I paid to have that done. Now I got my hands on another one, freelander td4, and I would like to do it my self. It's more fun, plus I'm pretty familiar with tech, for example I installed cruise control on my golf myself, added wiring and recoded computer, so I would like to try some tuning myself, as long as I have the right tools.
tnx!

edit: I found this clone on a sale @aliexpress. Looks the same as those bit more expensive ones. Would it be worth buying it?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Main-Unit-HW-V4-036-KESS-V2-V2-23-OBD2-Manager-Tuning-Kit-Master-Version-No/32739266687.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.221.cS1cfp&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10056_10 065_10068_10055_10054_301_10059_10078_10079_10084_ 10083_10073_10080_10070_10082_10081_10060_423_1006 1_10052_10062_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=3f712fe9-1d7e-4269-b383-9d85d74a145e

tango
14th November, 2016, 12:59 PM
would need reworking

Igor996
17th November, 2016, 10:32 PM
410611Hello i bought kess v2 from internet and i have wake up error i tried everything new software on tf card i tried on other computers and tried other softwer 2.08.2.13.2.22.2.25 it's always same. Does anybody have any idea how to fix this. Thanks and best reegards

4nubis
18th November, 2016, 05:12 AM
Tested on different cars or allways the same one ?

Igor996
18th November, 2016, 08:15 AM
On peugeot it always said wake up error and on fiat it made some other error

teerak2uk
18th November, 2016, 08:53 AM
410611Hello i bought kess v2 from internet and i have wake up error i tried everything new software on tf card i tried on other computers and tried other softwer 2.08.2.13.2.22.2.25 it's always same. Does anybody have any idea how to fix this. Thanks and best reegards
Needs reworking solder through holes reflow chips sd holder etc then probably replace some components read the thread all info is available

skojevac
20th November, 2016, 05:28 PM
I found some photos of kess with reset button, never saw this before. Apparently there is an add-on chip for resetting tokens.
411038411039411040411041411042

teamtuner
20th November, 2016, 10:07 PM
I found some photos of kess with reset button, never saw this before. Apparently there is an add-on chip for resetting tokens.
411038411039411040411041411042
yes
and if you will be lucky,you will reset with only 3 times this tools....(90 tokens)

stefyhgs
20th November, 2016, 10:38 PM
If you want totally file of Firmware 4036 is here:

408080

Pass: in Pm after alredy TKS or reputation
Tanks all member.


406883

Hello capo :), can you send the pass, please? Thank you in advance.

skojevac
21st November, 2016, 01:39 PM
yes
and if you will be lucky,you will reset with only 3 times this tools....(90 tokens)

What's the deal with those without reset button, what combination of firmware and hardware can be reset by software? For example, can kess v23 fw4.036 be reset with those token reset solutions?

flashtech
25th November, 2016, 12:16 PM
skojevac - i know that v2.08 with fw4.036 can be resetted unlimited times - have tested it.

electronistul21
13th December, 2016, 08:44 AM
in pictures you can see good and bad ktag clone.in first picture is quality clone (can see murata filter).in second pictures is bad clone with bad pcb ,is very dificil to add murata filter.

vasco fernandes
13th December, 2016, 12:16 PM
Having murata filters is not enough to be a quality clone. Other components are also important

gazvts
13th December, 2016, 01:00 PM
in pictures you can see good and bad ktag clone.in first picture is quality clone (can see murata filter).in second pictures is bad clone with bad pcb ,is very dificil to add murata filter.1st pic 2N7002 transistors ,the board itself not the worst or the best

electronistul21
14th December, 2016, 07:40 AM
Having murata filters is not enough to be a quality clone. Other components are also important
Maybe.But in second picture have R=200Kohmi in places filters.with her canot conect to kline.

skojevac
12th January, 2017, 12:26 PM
Following a post earlier in this thread I purchased Kess v2 from Bokins store @ aliexpress and I guess I received one of better clones.

420779

magnacin
12th January, 2017, 07:16 PM
Skojevac, have you had a chance to try it? How does it work? would you recommend to buy?
Thanks.

skojevac
12th January, 2017, 08:30 PM
Did not have a chance to try it out yet, it's -20, or more, these days, it's so freaking cold even inside garage so I think I better wait a few. I sure wanna test it asap, but I need to prepare additional power supply. Speaking of which I have a spare comp psu, so is it enough to use that? Or is it better to turn an old ups into power supply? It gives out steady 14v 7A. I'm new to this so is it good enough to connect that with car battery?
And I'm now curious, could see a female jack dangling and the end of an OBD connector, it that meant for power supply to be plugged in, or it's got another purpose?

ankjay
13th January, 2017, 01:04 AM
I believe that's for a power supply. They recommend the 12v/1A for Kess V2 and 12v/2A for KTag.
But the power supply, according to what I see, it's only necessary with boot loader mode but if we can confirm that would be better.

I've also bought a Bokins clone. :-)
Now I only have to wait 1 month till it arrives... :-(

skojevac
13th January, 2017, 10:57 AM
Another quick question, besides the one about power supply, is it absolutely necessary to connect kess hardware to the car and to the computer before commencing installation? I hope to test the thing during the weekend so every bit of help is welcome.

Also, what would be the good/best version of ksuite to install? tnx!

gazvts
13th January, 2017, 11:06 AM
The jack on obd cable to feed kline direct to ecu when not avail on obd socket ( should have blue single cable )

Install software ( net safe v2.08 ) & driver connect kess to laptop don't need vehicle to go through menu or check protocols lists but to test if working need to try few reads on various ecu types

be intresting to see if the P-channel transistors work so try test as much as you can if it was me i would read first post change out the ones marked PD

skojevac
13th January, 2017, 12:52 PM
Thanks for making this clear, that would be this cable. Will pay attention at those transistors, but I admit I would rather not touch 'em since I suck at soldering.:thumpdown:
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CrBooster
14th January, 2017, 08:44 PM
Hello guys! I just Received my KESS V2. It is 4.036 version and I installed it with Ksuite V2.30. I haven't tested it yet. It looks like is the same as skojevac one. What do you think? Should I change something in order to work more reliable? Thanks!

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skojevac
14th January, 2017, 11:30 PM
I tested mine today, was able to read LR freelander td4, that's dde4/15c4. It took 4.5 minutes to read, no apparent issues. I forgot to disable engine fan, but fortunately it did not make me a problem.
@CrBooster Where did you get v2.30? I installed v2.28, no higher version was on a disc, and I'm not aware that there is one.

Music73
15th January, 2017, 01:56 AM
It really doesn't matter if you have any version above 2.08 you ain't getting any more protocols to work as it's still the old firmware..


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skojevac
15th January, 2017, 11:37 PM
I think I read that, here or elswhere. I guess that's why it's recommended to install 2.08, but couldn't resist the temptation. :chuncky:

ankjay
16th January, 2017, 11:05 AM
@skojevac, you're lucky. Usually fans dry out batteries in no time! Looks like you have a good clone. Have you tried to write? :)
@CrBooster, it's the same. :-) Where did you get him? From the same store from ours - Bokins?

CrBooster
16th January, 2017, 12:01 PM
I took it from aliexpress from the store "ShenZhen" with a KTAG 2.13 and a BDM frame. I received the version 2.30 software by private message from them. On CD was just version 2.28. I tested it yesterday by reading an EDC16U1 from a VW Golf MK5 2.0 TDI. It took almost 6 minutes to read. This week I will also use it to write the same ECU. I will tell you how it goes.

ankjay
16th January, 2017, 04:49 PM
Nice!
Good luck mate!

Let us know how did it go!

skojevac
16th January, 2017, 09:23 PM
@ankjay I didn't try to write yet, and yeah, I also forgot to mention that I used an old ups like an external power source, had it connected to the battery during the writing so perhaps that helped too. Voltage fell from 12 and something V to 11 and something by the end of the reading, but it went ok. :)

ankjay
17th January, 2017, 12:35 PM
That makes sense!
In normal way (everything shutdown except the obvious ones), I believe that we don't need any power supply. It's a backup in fact, I believe we don't really need.

gazvts
17th January, 2017, 01:16 PM
That makes sense!
In normal way (everything shutdown except the obvious ones), I believe that we don't need any power supply. It's a backup in fact, I believe we don't really need.you believe what you like mate you play with fire you watch you do not get burnt .Thats just poor practise for 5 extra minutes setting up BSU or jump leads , wonder what excuse you will tell your customer when it craps out on you ?

ankjay
17th January, 2017, 05:59 PM
you believe what you like mate you play with fire you watch you do not get burnt .Thats just poor practise for 5 extra minutes setting up BSU or jump leads , wonder what excuse you will tell your customer when it craps out on you ?

I really understand your point, I really do. It's a matter of precaution.
Anyway, I said "I believe". I don't said "You don't need that!". That's a different thing.

I only used another sw's, I never tried to read/write on the ECU's before.
I guess I should start to build my own BSU in order to get all the power in case of failure.
If you guys say that it might be useful, I believe because you've been in this world more time than me. Always learning. ;)

tango
17th January, 2017, 09:14 PM
its always best to have a very good psu/charger connected to the car if you are going to attempt any type of ecu flashing
this is also recomended by the manufactures

kitnoos2002
18th January, 2017, 12:07 AM
its always best to have a very good psu/charger connected to the car if you are going to attempt any type of ecu flashing
this is also recomended by the manufactures

Isn't it mandatory that it be a charger to avoid damaging the battery ?
It can be power supply 60A set to 13.5v ? Is it OK ?

tango
18th January, 2017, 01:47 PM
Isn't it mandatory that it be a charger to avoid damaging the battery ?
It can be power supply 60A set to 13.5v ? Is it OK ?
most are using server psu's set at 13.5-14.5v so yes a 60A supply will work great

ankjay
18th January, 2017, 03:54 PM
Isn't it mandatory that it be a charger to avoid damaging the battery ?
It can be power supply 60A set to 13.5v ? Is it OK ?


most are using server psu's set at 13.5-14.5v so yes a 60A supply will work great

It makes sense. Usually the alternator charges between 13 and 14 volts. ;)

g00re
26th January, 2017, 12:35 PM
Hi Guys,

So I have bought the Kess and K-tag from china, kess looks like this -
http://imgur.com/szsNbyB
I have mostly changed all the parts which have been pointed out, but I am confused about murata filters, as in picture it looks like it solders at both ends, but the part I have to replace those with, it solders in three places, including the middle ( I hope this is understandable) So how do I solder the legit murata filter in the middle?
Maybe someone could point out if my capacitors are good as well?

As for K-Tag, I noticed that there are a lot of holes not being soldered on my PCB as per original, here is the picture where I have pointed out all the places with red circles and arrows
http://imgur.com/a/sqq4C
Is it good idea to solder the holes as well?

Thanks in advance,
Regards,
g00re

tango
26th January, 2017, 02:06 PM
you have to solder all middles to gnd
so run a wire across all centres then from last 1 to any gnd point
and for the holes yes just solder them

g00re
26th January, 2017, 04:12 PM
you have to solder all middles to gnd
so run a wire across all centres then from last 1 to any gnd point
and for the holes yes just solder them

Thank you very much tango for helping.
So basically like in the picture? (yeah its ms paint)

Or I am messing up grounds and should look for any GND on the PCB?

424124

ankjay
26th January, 2017, 06:44 PM
Hi g00re,

I don't think you want to solder a wire in the murata filters!

He said that you need to solder the middle holes, they are located in the middle of the PCB.
This is the original board (picture taken from the first post):
https://postimg.cc/image/w00iwu9xh/

As you can see, in the middle of the PCB the holes are filled with solder.

tango
26th January, 2017, 06:45 PM
you have the idea right apart from dont connect them to any end of the filters otherwise thats then a short circuit

ankjay
26th January, 2017, 06:49 PM
tango,

Sorry my n00bice but, is it necessary to solder a wire on the murata filters? :-|

tango
26th January, 2017, 06:53 PM
you need to make it something like this (making sure the centers are not connecting to outer ends anyway

tango
26th January, 2017, 06:54 PM
if your pcb is the 1 with no trace for them in centers yes its needed they are connected to gnd

ankjay
26th January, 2017, 06:59 PM
if your pcb is the 1 with no trace for them in centers yes its needed they are connected to gnd

I'm waiting for my to arrive... It's the one from Bokins store, it should look like this:
424185

From what I see, they are connected, right? It's only necessary filling with solder the holes in the middle of the PCB. From what I see.

tango
26th January, 2017, 07:06 PM
you dont have to fill holes
all you need to do with that pcb is check transistors are good etc
no need for filters replacing or touching

vasco fernandes
26th January, 2017, 07:07 PM
Checks the transistors. I think they are not correct

g00re
26th January, 2017, 07:14 PM
I'm waiting for my to arrive... It's the one from Bokins store, it should look like this:
424185

From what I see, they are connected, right? It's only necessary filling with solder the holes in the middle of the PCB. From what I see.

Thats the case, regarding your PCB murata`s, there is a place to solder centers for them, in my case there is not.

@tango - I got the idea now. only thing is where do I find GND?
This is how my PCB looked originally - http://imgur.com/a/CQH8f
I have circled with red two GND`s I am able to find. Am I good to connect to them?
Thanks

tango
26th January, 2017, 07:18 PM
if you look at the pic i edited of yours you will see where i made the gnd connection right at top
scrape alittle green away then put a little solder then use that space

g00re
26th January, 2017, 07:24 PM
if you look at the pic i edited of yours you will see where i made the gnd connection right at top
scrape alittle green away then put a little solder then use that space

So thats how it works lol.
Thank you very much! :)

EDIT:

While still on the topic, when soldering holes on KESS I think I messed up on this one - http://imgur.com/a/CGuQZ
Circled with red, it looks like both connections are touching. Is this really bad? Can I live with it? I tried to clean it up but with not much success.

PremierD
27th January, 2017, 10:17 AM
Oh dear ......what did you use an oxy acetyne cutter to solder with ? ....lol

g00re
27th January, 2017, 11:09 AM
Oh dear ......what did you use an oxy acetyne cutter to solder with ? ....lol

Yeah, it looks quite bad lol, this was the result of trying to remove the solder and re-solder it afterwards, but I messed it up quite a bit.
Im quite new in soldering, so...
Thing is what can be done? whats the best way to clean this mess up? I assume this can create short

ankjay
27th January, 2017, 11:53 AM
Thats the case, regarding your PCB murata`s, there is a place to solder centers for them, in my case there is not.
Ok g00re, got it! :)



Yeah, it looks quite bad , this was the result of trying to remove the solder and re-solder it afterwards, but I messed it up quite a bit.
Im quite new in soldering, so...
Thing is what can be done? whats the best way to clean this mess up? I assume this can create short
You can do it using solder paste which will clean the solder area while touching the solder iron and isopropyl alcohol to clean.
And lots of pacience!



Checks the transistors. I think they are not correct
Do you believe that they aren't the correct ones? This pictures was an example, I've ordered it from the same store, so it should be the same.
I really need to have the equipment in hand to see what I can do. :)

Thanks!

tango
27th January, 2017, 06:53 PM
So thats how it works lol.
Thank you very much! :)

EDIT:

While still on the topic, when soldering holes on KESS I think I messed up on this one - http://imgur.com/a/CGuQZ
Circled with red, it looks like both connections are touching. Is this really bad? Can I live with it? I tried to clean it up but with not much success.

leave it or add a little more solder to fill the via(hole) the via's (holes) on each side of that capacitor is connected to the capacitor

g00re
30th January, 2017, 08:58 PM
leave it or add a little more solder to fill the via(hole) the via's (holes) on each side of that capacitor is connected to the capacitor

Ok, thanks tango!

And another dumb question probably, on my KESS I have 470 25V UT capacitor and I have received also 220uF 50V capacitor (both seen on picture)
Is it ok to replace those? As I have seen on original kess its 220uF 50V capacitor.

Pic - http://imgur.com/a/ACCJe

tango
30th January, 2017, 11:00 PM
Yes replace everything that's not same as original

skcelectronic
2nd February, 2017, 01:14 PM
hello guys...
Filters must be raised 3-4mm of pcb

heteromies
7th February, 2017, 01:00 PM
you need to make it something like this (making sure the centers are not connecting to outer ends anyway

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=424184&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1485453143


http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/470321-Kess-V2-Harware-Rework-FREE-SOLUTION!?p=2941840&viewfull=1#post2941840


Is this correct way? Becauce genuine has different solution. Wiring from pcb RF point to metal case.

skcelectronic
7th February, 2017, 02:28 PM
That's the same..

tango
7th February, 2017, 05:59 PM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/470321-Kess-V2-Harware-Rework-FREE-SOLUTION!?p=2941840&viewfull=1#post2941840


Is this correct way? Becauce genuine has different solution. Wiring from pcb RF point to metal case.

that is a gnd wire to case
you can do the same with yours if you want to

ankjay
10th February, 2017, 11:51 AM
Guys,

I was searching on the internet and found one ebayer that is selling one Kess, aparently with EU firmware and quality components but I don't think so...

Take a look:
427567427568

From what I see, this isn't quite good quality since there isn't any murata filters and yellow capacitors.
What do you guys think?

cp2010
10th February, 2017, 12:10 PM
china s**t no reworked !

sinhron
10th February, 2017, 01:23 PM
427588427589Hi. I ordered kess clone from china, can you tell me which components needs to be changed for it to work better, and is it good for 24v ?

tango
10th February, 2017, 01:31 PM
stop being lazy and search for the original pic to compare to
also i posted a rework list etc and they are in this thread

sinhron
10th February, 2017, 02:01 PM
From what I see is only the murata filters. Already searched all, and have like 10 pictures on my computer. Not being sure doesn't mean I am being lazy.

ankjay
10th February, 2017, 04:12 PM
From what I see is only the murata filters. Already searched all, and have like 10 pictures on my computer. Not being sure doesn't mean I am being lazy.

It's not only the murata filters mate. That transistors doesn't seem to be the ones on the first topic.
Search on the internet the reference marked/printed in the transistor and see if they match with the ones in the first topic. :-)

Like tango said, search a little bit on the topic, there's a list of all components necessary to a perfect rework.
Good luck!


china s**t no reworked !

I thought so. :-)
Thanks!

dario2308
13th February, 2017, 09:10 PM
salve,potrei avere la password x favore...grazie.non riesco a scriverla in privato.

dario2308
13th February, 2017, 09:11 PM
salve,e' possibile avere la password x favore???Grazie.

jonnnybee
18th February, 2017, 09:53 AM
That's very good thread, I read all, but it takes hours:)
Thanks to all for parts list, drawings and bin's, etc.

jonnnybee
19th February, 2017, 08:51 AM
Hello, on the drawing there is step down regulator LM2575.
What is correct type of this regulator?

Allky86
25th February, 2017, 12:23 PM
hello , i have problem with my kess v2 4.036 . Cant read pcr 2.1 protocol . invalid protocol file . i put new sd card format put sd card files an update and nothing

skcelectronic
25th February, 2017, 01:25 PM
Hi,
Format the kess SD card in fat 32 use EaseUs Master
then do not open the SD to win rather than just copy the files to SD

Petar001
25th February, 2017, 04:32 PM
Hi

i Have Kess Clone and used it for a while read and write ECU. after my tokens run out and i finally reset it.
now i can read Id, read ecu, but after writing map to Ford Focus 1.6 tdci car wont start, so i do recovery after that everything ok.

is it problem with file or with Kess ?

Thanks

board:
431468

smirnoff_rules
25th February, 2017, 04:37 PM
its the file

Petar001
25th February, 2017, 05:40 PM
Is it possible that Kess do wrong checksum and that this problem occurs ?
thanks

tango
25th February, 2017, 06:40 PM
doubt very much the kess did wrong checksum
if anything it might not have corrected the chesum so you have to do it
either way the problem will be the file like you was told

ivanrojo
1st March, 2017, 03:48 PM
hi all, i bought this kess from aliexpress, fw 4.036 and sw 2.13432381432382432383 software could be downloaded from here:
http://www.360diag.net/a/downloads/Diagnostic_software/2016/0219/349.html

i have problem with the tool, doesn?t work with a lot of common cars, like 1.9 tdi (golf mkiv leon etc) sometimes read sometimes not, and i have already bricked an edc16u just for connecting. know I dare not use it.

I want to rework it, but i don?t now if my pcb is ok or not, or if problem is on fw and sw.

Talking with an expert he recommend me to used fw 3.099 with 2.08 sw and full rework of pcb, what do you think? should i used and older fw and sw?

thanks a lot!

tango
2nd March, 2017, 12:27 AM
you cant go back to fw3.099 so i would personally replace the transistors or the ones that need replacing to start with
compare the pcb to the original and then replace what needs to be replaced
sw you shouldnt be using anything other than version 2.08
read through all theis thread to understand

ankjay
2nd March, 2017, 10:33 AM
Yes, the transistors doesn't look the right ones you need to replace them.
For double check, compare with the original and see what needs to be changed, like tango said.

Your PCB looks the same of Bokins store...

ivanrojo
4th March, 2017, 01:11 AM
thanks so much I will reworking it, so if I can?t go back to w 3.099 (that guy told me that was necessary to desloder the fw chip) my sock fw 4,036 is ok? all problems were for using 2.13 sw?

on other hand, china fw 4.036 and 2.08 sw is ok? or its necesary to use that sw and fw from an other place?

fraxion
6th March, 2017, 05:22 AM
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Hi
newbie here.
can you twll me if these components are ok?
i have read and written with it but it took 15mins to read/write to Golf TFSI

thanks

fraxion
6th March, 2017, 05:25 AM
sorry, repost

ivanrojo
6th March, 2017, 04:10 PM
TFSI always take several time to read and write, don?t worry about it, do you used 2.08 sw?

ankjay
7th March, 2017, 03:35 PM
I can't see the transistors but the rest seems fine to me. ;)

ivanrojo
7th March, 2017, 03:46 PM
Hello i have installed sw 2.08 and good libraries to the sd, but now when i open ksuite every time it installs firmware again (without internet conexion), someone know the reason?

ivanrojo
7th March, 2017, 04:40 PM
solved! i delete files on upgrade folder after upgrade it and now it doesn?t do it!

arunsta
7th March, 2017, 07:34 PM
Is working for anybody Kess 4.036 clone with BMW E60 EDC16CP35 by OBD ? I have try many times to many E60 models, but no luck. I got KLINE and CAN, if I choose KLINE- get "wake up error", If I choose CAN, getting " Protocol not correct.Use protocol 164" ... where is problem ?

p.s. I have changed all components for KLine fixing even they were correct and good condition, nothing changed.

cawadany
7th March, 2017, 07:47 PM
Tried with protocol 164 and selecting k-line?

arunsta
7th March, 2017, 07:57 PM
Tried with protocol 164 and selecting k-line?

Yes, I did. If selecting KLine, getting "wake up error". With other cars (different protocols) kline is working great.

arunsta
8th March, 2017, 10:18 AM
What's wrong with this china clone ? This BMW with EDC16CP35 witch protocol should work, CAN or KLINE ?

commieTH
17th March, 2017, 12:21 AM
Just finished reading this great thread - 6 bloody hours!!! :) Really everything is here, from rework instructions with parts list to links to good sellers. One thing seems to be missing though - towards beginning of the thread there were links to download internet safe 2.08 software and by now all these links are dead. Could someone re-upload it please?

PS by the way is that version really "internet safe"? ;)

commieTH
17th March, 2017, 07:23 AM
The only thing that's left to decide now is which FW to buy, 3.099, 4.024 or 4.036. I realise 4.036 differs from 2 others in token reset methods (harder to do, may require change of chip) so does it open enough new options to be worth it, compared with older ones? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

heteromies
18th March, 2017, 09:56 AM
The only thing that's left to decide now is which FW to buy, 3.099, 4.024 or 4.036. I realise 4.036 differs from 2 others in token reset methods (harder to do, may require change of chip) so does it open enough new options to be worth it, compared with older ones? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

None, buy 5.017. Its latest, token free, full open, internet safe!

Moldovan1
20th March, 2017, 08:51 PM
About E60, EDC16CP35 :Change speed to low. But is better to make this ECU on the bench. Is most safely!

ivanrojo
20th March, 2017, 08:56 PM
Well, for sure my kess is not ok, today I tried to read a c4 2.0 hdi 136 dephi ecu, and i couldn?t kess said protocol error , I read a golf v bkd without problem but when i tried to flash it kess said error and ecu was bricked...:apologetic: I could rescued it with mpps v13

Same thing happend with other bkd before reworked and sew 2.24, with new eu components and 2.08 and new libraries for sd nothing changes...

maybe problem is for using windows 10? does someone know?

i don?t know what to do, i?m thinking to buy a galleto or other tool which works better.

Baddog84
22nd March, 2017, 09:05 AM
Where new version Kess sw2.30 for Clone?
Changes?
Someone already tested?

driver35
22nd March, 2017, 09:30 AM
Will not work, all new protocols will be gray.

chiptorque
22nd March, 2017, 09:48 AM
Hi I have 2 versions 4.036 one with trucks and another normal one. Yesterday I went to do a W205 MB with Ecu CRD3-651 I started reading but it gave 1 hour and 30 minutes of reading, has anyone tried it? I stopped him in the middle because he was not in my workshop.


regards

commieTH
27th March, 2017, 06:17 AM
Received another Kess today from a private seller who reworks them himself (as he claims), really like the quality. M-filters are grounded, tantalum caps, PCB marked 2016.10.31. Not even sure I need to change anything. Transistors photos are attached, do you think it's worth changing them? That's my only concern about this PCB, really and I couldn't find datasheets.

tango
27th March, 2017, 12:12 PM
if its reworked why change anything?
but then looking at the pic i dont think its been reworked at all
i think its bought from china that way
i would change those transistors thats are marked pd for sure
from what i can find they seem to be mossfets :(

ivanrojo
27th March, 2017, 07:47 PM
hi I all today I connected kess with internet conection (after rework the kw libraries and everything worked good at the end.) For rescuing the tool i know i need a jlink and fw, but have i to buy a new nxp and solder it? if yes i think would be beter send it to someone with more experience on smd than me, and maybe pay for a upgrade to 5.017

d3v1l
29th March, 2017, 11:47 PM
Just Buy A new SDcard format in fat32 And find someone that can share with you the file to insert inside.

ivanrojo
2nd April, 2017, 11:30 PM
Thanks a lot, must to be a new sd? is it not valid to format old one? if not, i hace to buy a sd with a concrete size?

heteromies
3rd April, 2017, 03:42 AM
........What you try to do? IF wanna try to update to 5.017 it can do only with replace NXP.

pocgoc
5th April, 2017, 09:47 PM
Lovely thread, worth a read for all Kess users

Stig33
6th April, 2017, 12:43 AM
I think he is the best seller in Kess clone tools....and he have Kess V2 upgrade kit....

http://car-prog.com/

kingarthas
6th April, 2017, 04:17 AM
Hi,


I need to choose between one of those PCB... Which one is better?

1.jpg mostly black items :), also empty holes are filled up
2.jpg with yellow items, also the metallic 220 50v like original
3.jpg with yellow items, however the metallic one is 470 25v

see 1feedback.jpg for 1.jpg PCB

Dutsov
6th April, 2017, 04:41 AM
2

Изпратено от моят SM-N910C с помощта на Tapatalk

Dutsov
6th April, 2017, 04:44 AM
........What you try to do? IF wanna try to update to 5.017 it can do only with replace NXP.
How much is this solution and how sure are you its only processor?

Изпратено от моят SM-N910C с помощта на Tapatalk

teamtuner
6th April, 2017, 07:53 AM
nxp and sdcard also:)

gazvts
6th April, 2017, 09:18 AM
Hi,


I need to choose between one of those PCB... Which one is better?

1.jpg mostly black items :), also empty holes are filled up
2.jpg with yellow items, also the metallic 220 50v like original
3.jpg with yellow items, however the metallic one is 470 25v

see 1feedback.jpg for 1.jpg PCBget pic 2 only get it with fw 3.099 then flash it with better firmware not cars ,bikes only version

tango
7th April, 2017, 02:34 PM
yes agree get jpg 2 pcb but then check transistors because they will have at least 2 that need replacing (mostly marked pd)
these are wrong
but the pcb in jpg 2 is best version you show
the seial in first pic is cars and bikes and the other serial you see is full cars bikes trucks etc

Roberto68
18th April, 2017, 08:46 PM
Hello,
need Help and Info for KESS V2 TRICORE MODULE (China) Rework.
Can someone help me?

Dutsov
19th April, 2017, 09:53 AM
http://www.buyobdii.com/kess-v5017-firmware-support-online-added-140-protocol-no-token-limited-p-1087.html
somebody tested this?

satriawr
27th April, 2017, 07:58 AM
http://www.buyobdii.com/kess-v5017-firmware-support-online-added-140-protocol-no-token-limited-p-1087.html
somebody tested this?
I'm intrested also,...

Music73
27th April, 2017, 08:46 AM
http://www.buyobdii.com/kess-v5017-firmware-support-online-added-140-protocol-no-token-limited-p-1087.html
somebody tested this?
I also got an email about these the other day and was surprised they seem to be the only seller at the mo ..

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

satriawr
27th April, 2017, 09:25 AM
I also got an email about these the other day and was surprised they seem to be the only seller at the mo ..

Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkAliexpress now have it. Several seller. 320usd. From the link above, 300usd.

AndyCZ
28th April, 2017, 06:24 PM
Guys,
I killed my ktag with internet recently so I swap processor. I flash proc with any issues now.
So have files such SD, flash and update files but update process doesn't start
https://yadi.sk/d/fj0nkXNM3HTXcz

Something is wrong.

446368

Please only working solution.
thanks.

satriawr
28th April, 2017, 06:48 PM
Chinese kess 5.017 is 280usd now. Free dhl shipping, i'll take my risk. Will buy it.

morgano
28th April, 2017, 08:55 PM
Guys,
I killed my ktag with internet recently so I swap processor. I flash proc with any issues now.
So have files such SD, flash and update files but update process doesn't start
https://yadi.sk/d/fj0nkXNM3HTXcz

Something is wrong.

446368

Please only working solution.
thanks.

Bad soldered mcu. 100%

teamtuner
2nd May, 2017, 07:25 AM
Guys,
I killed my ktag with internet recently so I swap processor. I flash proc with any issues now.
So have files such SD, flash and update files but update process doesn't start
https://yadi.sk/d/fj0nkXNM3HTXcz

Something is wrong.

446368

Please only working solution.
thanks.
mate
you can do this
try to reflash again your nxp
if you can again reflash nxp,means your nxp is not ok soldered
if you can not reflash again,then change sdcard with another new sdcard...and do again update with 2.08

AndyCZ
2nd May, 2017, 08:21 AM
mate
you can do this
try to reflash again your nxp
if you can again reflash nxp,means your nxp is not ok soldered
if you can not reflash again,then change sdcard with another new sdcard...and do again update with 2.08

Thanks mate,
the nxp can be reflashed without any issues.
I resoldered NXP as morgano adviced, the update process start, the serial is ok then but all is gray.
SD card locked and cannot be use just format. Tried another card, same issue.
There is soft on internet "KSuite KESS KTAG REPAIR" I just realised yerstarday it's realy kill the NXP.
This is the 3rd MCU I killed with the SW. After you run the exe your NXP cannot be read or reflashed.
I just ordered another ktag main unit as my pcb after 3rd soldering not look nice.
Do not want waste time anymore.
Thanks all for help.

satriawr
14th May, 2017, 05:33 AM
Kess 5.017 arrived. Tested ok on Orlando 1.8 petrol, MU-X 2.5 VGT, Trax 1.4T, Navara 2.5T.

ivanrojo
15th May, 2017, 03:06 PM
HI all after broke my kess v2 pcb ( I have soldered several times) i bought a new one on inernet
I have to change filter transistor etc
http://i67.tinypic.com/55rnk5.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ltj8gj.jpg
BUt i have noticed that, the other pcb hasn?t got this soldere it looks weird to me:
http://i63.tinypic.com/1zq4w8y.jpg

WHat do you think, i have tested on a me7.5 and it reads and writes perfect, would you remove that solder?

BR

tango
16th May, 2017, 01:37 PM
that isnt solder
its a component thats been added

ivanrojo
16th May, 2017, 01:54 PM
should I to remove it?

tango
18th May, 2017, 03:03 PM
why remove it?
its not hurting anything so leave it alone
it has had to been added for some reason

cheester
19th May, 2017, 03:09 PM
Lads, I made a ~~~~ up by mistake with my kess, just using switcher software tried to change usualy ktag for transdata and I had connected kess to my laptop. Loaded transdata drivers in to kess, is there any way to fix it by loaded right driver back to kess or maybe if someone could tell me which chip on the board contain this usb data as I have one kess for parts so can transfer any chip.

Thanks for help

gazvts
19th May, 2017, 05:02 PM
...............

Tryme
22nd May, 2017, 11:37 AM
Thank's, really usefull !!

sl4ck
24th May, 2017, 12:31 AM
Can someone help on kess rework about speaker soldering, wich hole is + (positive): 1 or 2 ?

Thanks

452009

isfedales82
4th June, 2017, 01:57 PM
Is it possible that Kess do wrong checksum and that this problem occurs ?
thanks

Hello i have the same version for photo, on marelli 6f3 writes, me tells me writing done correctly, but no more cars .... restart in bdm, flash seems wrong on cecksum
you solved ?Somebody knows why

isfedales82
4th June, 2017, 02:00 PM
Someone knows the reason
And what fixes I can do depends on hardware or firmware thanks

mbtun
5th June, 2017, 05:39 AM
Regarding the Speaker it doesn't matter. The tool will give just a "Beep" on some ford's and jaguar's but you also get a message on the screen. So you can add it or not.
All the hw fixes depend on the pcb.

wokcz
5th June, 2017, 05:41 AM
Can someone help on kess rework about speaker soldering, wich hole is + (positive): 1 or 2 ?

Thanks

452009

Shouldn't be too hard to figure out, use a multimeter, find ground on board, put one end on ground, and another on each of the speaker's pad the one with 0 resistance is negative.

dendes
13th June, 2017, 08:54 PM
Hi Gent's

Anybody used to repair or rework tricore adapter for Kess V2, mine stopped working at all, I want to rebuild it.

adekbws
17th June, 2017, 11:33 AM
Hi
I have Kess v2 with FW 3.099 . I need help which software work with 3.099 firmware and need sd card files too.
Someone will help with download links ?

mbtun
19th June, 2017, 07:30 AM
3.099 you can use with any Ksuite higher that 2.06.
For the SDcard files you already have them in your toole

wokcz
21st June, 2017, 05:28 AM
I recently bought a Kess SW: v2.32 / FW: v4.036 + KTag SW: v2.13 / FW: v6.070 (shipment hasn't arrived yet). A few days after I placed the order, they started selling Kess SW V2.23: / FW: 5.017 + KTag SW: v2.23 / FW: 7.020.

My question is, if I manage to get the updated fw files, or if the files become available. Will I be able to update with the hardware I bought or will I need to make some physical changes to the pcb?

Samsara
21st June, 2017, 07:58 AM
Hello.
I'm almost sure hardware is same, because some sell NXP including firmware 5.017 and sdcard software.
It's expensive, more than 200?, compare to complete Kess V5.017 + all cables for 290? with DHL.
It's impossible to found firmware only because sellers will lost their business, so only NXP preprogrammed with read security enable.

adekbws
21st June, 2017, 11:53 AM
mbtun (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/313889-mbtun) but I format my sdcard, becouse i had "wake up" error, then I copied to the sd card files for version k-suite 1.89. and run software k-suite 2.32 but when i try to read i have "invalid protocol" error, so i think i need the correct files to sdcard , where
can i find them ?

erem51
22nd June, 2017, 09:47 AM
I am new at this thing and I would like to have a clone KESS. What is the risk of it ? Is it possible that harm ECU with connecting clone KESS via OBD ??
Thanks

csw03
24th June, 2017, 10:40 AM
Hello, you can use the clones for ecu's without any ( contenute ) risk, is better you read and write always with same tool, be sure the file you go to write is correct, for some ecu's is better make a full back up with Ktag, and you can be quiet, always thing appaned, you have a full back up.
Regards

teamtuner
26th June, 2017, 10:25 AM
Hello, you can use the clones for ecu's without any ( contenute ) risk, is better you read and write always with same tool, be sure the file you go to write is correct, for some ecu's is better make a full back up with Ktag, and you can be quiet, always thing appaned, you have a full back up.
Regards
your signature mate...attention....the "blue eyes of Johner" can see this...
regards...

hickling33
8th August, 2017, 10:24 PM
hi can anyone do KESS V2 5.017 update on my kess v2 clone frm FW V3.099 around nottingham i dont mine paying thanks mark

hickling33
8th August, 2017, 10:30 PM
KESS V2 5.017 update on my kess v2 clone frm FW V3.099

Samsara
9th August, 2017, 09:03 AM
How much ?

michalez
9th August, 2017, 11:20 AM
i got kess 5.017 can i do volvo v50 sid803 ? it is possible to run v2.28 software kess on this interface?

hickling33
9th August, 2017, 07:44 PM
you tell me mate

OVERSPEED
13th August, 2017, 08:54 PM
Hello, you can use the clones for ecu's without any ( contenute ) risk, is better you read and write always with same tool, be sure the file you go to write is correct, for some ecu's is better make a full back up with Ktag, and you can be quiet, always thing appaned, you have a full back up.
Regards
Not true... used kess in boot tricore, read ok. Write stop at 99%error and ECU was dead even after write original file with mpps... can read or write but no way to work on car

smirnoff_rules
13th August, 2017, 09:29 PM
what ecu was this ?

OVERSPEED
19th August, 2017, 12:06 AM
Med 17.5.2 jetta

CarlightExpress
1st September, 2017, 06:17 PM
Attached is an image from my Kess, When looking up the parts I think I need the following:

6xNFE61PT472C1H9L
4xBCR112
4xMMUN2113LT1
4xBC817 6DW
2x1uF 35V
2x 220uF 10V
8x 10uF 16V Tantalum

What about the Speaker? Does it matter which make/Brand rating the components are?471767

CarlightExpress
2nd September, 2017, 11:13 AM
Not true... used kess in boot tricore, read ok. Write stop at 99%error and ECU was dead even after write original file with mpps... can read or write but no way to work on car

Vag Can Pro would have fixed that

OVERSPEED
4th September, 2017, 01:11 AM
Even dealer couldn't make it alive again

adekbws
5th September, 2017, 10:59 AM
I format my sdcard and i need files to FW 3.099 plz
And FW 3.099 what is the level CRP ?

pocgoc
15th September, 2017, 09:15 PM
Hi, I reworked my Kess clone v5.017. But i'm getting a issue communicating with trucks "Wake Up Error".
I have connected to my Car without issue , ids' the ECU fine. But Renault Kerax DCi 370 ,Scania R470 , Renault Kerax 420. All get the same error "Wake Up Error". Is there anyone else with this issue or heard of it before? I tried google but generally in context with v4.036, and to reformat card.
Problem is reformat is that i don't have access to any v5.017 SD card files. Only v4.036.


Picture 1 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B59x1wj9GrIzUndwaDdObjQ3MDg)

Picture 2 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B59x1wj9GrIzMWZEMlkxTE1TNnc)

Picture 3 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B59x1wj9GrIzZkItWGNaM0VyRzQ)

teamtuner
18th September, 2017, 03:21 PM
your china 5.017 need now the china new sdcard...that is the trick...low price-low quality

adekbws
18th September, 2017, 10:04 PM
Hi i Reworked my kess 3.099 and it worked but when i flash with jlink my nxp to 4.024 from this below BubbaFet bin i have problem , now when i start ksuite i have error "restart the program to apply the changes", so i think i have bad sdcard files, anybody help me with link to sdcard files 4.024 please PM
firmware 4.024 can work with k-suite 2.32 ?

319597

Does anybody know if the 4.024 Firmware is CRP3 or CRP2? Also can someone verify the 4.024 Firmware attached here - is it safe to flash it via jTag ?

pocgoc
19th September, 2017, 07:03 PM
your china 5.017 need now the china new sdcard...that is the trick...low price-low quality

Do you know of where their sold?

teamtuner
21st September, 2017, 04:16 PM
Do you know of where their sold?
i know where to buy EU fw nxp and real good sdcard

ionutdanica
22nd September, 2017, 02:35 PM
i know where to buy EU fw nxp and real good sdcard

Where?
Sent pm.

teamtuner
22nd September, 2017, 03:06 PM
Where?
Sent pm.
read your PM...will find where

wokcz
24th September, 2017, 07:17 AM
I see people recommending using 10uf 16v tantalum caps, but in the picture (which says it's original board) all the 10uf capacitors are 10 volts (marked as 106A) not 16 volts.

Can anyone confirm if original board use 10v or 16v for the 10uf caps?

ionutdanica
24th September, 2017, 12:36 PM
Use this TPSB106K020R1000

wokcz
24th September, 2017, 03:06 PM
Use this TPSB106K020R1000

Seems a little expensive for not even having AEC certification. Im still curious if original uses 10v rated caps. I was thinking of getting something like TPSB106K010T1000, still low ESR, AEC-Q200 compliant, but 10v rated.

sonique
26th September, 2017, 12:42 PM
anyone try china good quality 5.017 kess write simos 18.1 4mb binary ?

working ?
read not working not problem i have original file

ionutdanica
5th October, 2017, 12:45 PM
Only with sw 2.34 work good...

pocinas
8th October, 2017, 03:04 PM
Gentlemen. I stand before buying KESS v2 5.017 china with green PCB or red PCB which is a little more expensive. I'm going to do rework so how do you think the version would be better? Box will just to my private usage

gilleone
11th October, 2017, 12:52 AM
Please you sell Ktag without cks error in write and how much for your device ?

Thanks .

rgnaya
19th October, 2017, 11:23 AM
i have tried to add tokens with rar file with cfg files with no success. then i try to reset tokens like movie of chinesse cd but now kess is out... soft says to me that i have to restart to aply changes but i restart and this message take me again. if i try to open ksuite 2.08 it runs but all protocols are deactivated. what happen? dead kess? could i repair it? thanks

worldofchiptuning
21st October, 2017, 09:59 AM
a link for buy a good tool ?

maajkii
21st October, 2017, 10:08 AM
if someone need good 5.017 eu PM for more details...

michalez
2nd November, 2017, 09:10 AM
Psa bosch MED17.4/MEV17.4 Can cant read with KESS 5.017 " Error while transferring data in reading" i tested in two cars and the same problem. Citroen C4 5FS Engine. Anybody have the same problems and solve it ?

heteromies
2nd November, 2017, 01:15 PM
Psa bosch MED17.4/MEV17.4 Can cant read with KESS 5.017 " Error while transferring data in reading" i tested in two cars and the same problem. Citroen C4 5FS Engine. Anybody have the same problems and solve it ?

China Kess version?

michalez
2nd November, 2017, 05:03 PM
China Kess version? yes it is china kess

pocinas
2nd November, 2017, 06:07 PM
Hi there.
I have the same fault "Error while transferring data in reading" but ECU is Bosch ME1.5.5 which is present in Vauxhall(Opel) Corsa C 1.2 16V.

My kess 5.017 is china but reworked,
Actually it was just reworked, tested on 2 other ecu and worked ok.

I try this ecu read via Galetto v54(reworked) and is problem as well.



So i think is maybe my ecu not readable ....
At the moment what i read on the internet... My ecu. ME1.5.5 is present in alfa romeo as well. And there no one box can't read this ecu. To the bench as well.. Only option is writing but just overwrite.. With specially trick (pin 10 obd2 connect with Ground or 12v i can't remember now) This is like protection.... Try read more infos in the internet.. Maybe you found something

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carmageddon
7th November, 2017, 01:33 PM
fiat-alfa-lancia have bosch m1.5.5 (not readable, only writing)

http://www.bluestreak.co.uk/img/M1.5.5.%20%20%20WEB.gif

opel have bosch me1.5.5 (reading and writing by obd without problem...also with kwp2000)

http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server4500/121da/products/239/images/550/1__23513.1326066522.500.659.jpg?c=2

M1.5.5 and ME1.5.5 is not the same ecu

alexauto12
16th November, 2017, 11:51 PM
Hello people

I bought recently a KESS V2 5.017 clone

I try to read the ecu via OBD from a Lancia Y 2002 (IAW 59F). I deal two matters,

first after the reading it appears a message for check sum error (i read later that needs c++, i install it but i haven't test it yet, to check if the check sum error fixed).

The second matter is that i read 3 times ecu via obd, each time needs around 35 minutes to complete the procedure and the exported file it was only 256 kb.. What is the necessary avarage time to read a ecu with KESS via OBD. Does it has any setting in order to improve the needed time?

Thatnks in advance
Alex

maajkii
17th November, 2017, 01:14 AM
Hello people

I bought recently a KESS V2 5.017 clone

I try to read the ecu via OBD from a Lancia Y 2002 (IAW 59F). I deal two matters,

first after the reading it appears a message for check sum error (i read later that needs c++, i install it but i haven't test it yet, to check if the check sum error fixed).

The second matter is that i read 3 times ecu via obd, each time needs around 35 minutes to complete the procedure and the exported file it was only 256 kb.. What is the necessary avarage time to read a ecu with KESS via OBD. Does it has any setting in order to improve the needed time?

Thatnks in advance
Alex

All ecu have different time of read/write...
Like edc16c39 read -45min write-2min...
But for example - me 7.1.1 - read30min write-30min
Edc16u1 read -10min write-2min
Merc edc16cp36 - read and write around 2min...

So time isnt important...
Files for
Edc15 are 512kb/1mb
Edc16 are 1/2mb
Edc17 2/4mb

Just check with Winols is it recognized or not... :)


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teamtuner
17th November, 2017, 02:00 PM
Hello people

I bought recently a KESS V2 5.017 clone

I try to read the ecu via OBD from a Lancia Y 2002 (IAW 59F). I deal two matters,

first after the reading it appears a message for check sum error (i read later that needs c++, i install it but i haven't test it yet, to check if the check sum error fixed).

The second matter is that i read 3 times ecu via obd, each time needs around 35 minutes to complete the procedure and the exported file it was only 256 kb.. What is the necessary avarage time to read a ecu with KESS via OBD. Does it has any setting in order to improve the needed time?

Thatnks in advance
Alex
all that means fiat,it take 30-45 min to read by obd

alexauto12
20th November, 2017, 12:37 AM
all that means fiat,it take 30-45 min to read by obd


All ecu have different time of read/write...
Like edc16c39 read -45min write-2min...
But for example - me 7.1.1 - read30min write-30min
Edc16u1 read -10min write-2min
Merc edc16cp36 - read and write around 2min...

So time isnt important...
Files for
Edc15 are 512kb/1mb
Edc16 are 1/2mb
Edc17 2/4mb

Just check with Winols is it recognized or not... :)


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Thank you mates
I worried that the my kess had problem.

One more quetion. my clone has green pcb (not eu version). Is ir worthly to reworked it, due to many components are defferent in comparison with the original? Except components replace do i need to reprogramming the npx processor? (note that i will not change version, my kess has allready 5.017).

Thank in advanced

mircea13
20th November, 2017, 08:57 PM
what do you guys think about this kess 5.017 with reset button ? is it worth about 200$ with taxes and shipment ? 487359