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[whiskeyman]

ford and mazda still trash i see
thought would give it one last chance just to see how it has developed.......

oh me a long way to go yet avdi
and the eprom functions for making a key from dump
vvdi still blows it away let alone tango but thats another thing thats been left on the shelf for years ........

any development on MG yet probably last company to look at this

[nazz2]

@ Martin, you were correct, changed the remote mode from Delphi to Marelli, reprogrammed, and remote worked, then used the key tool to sniff pass, to unlock the 2 remotes that i waisted back to unlock.cheers

ps. told supplier to edit these from Delphi to Mrelli type.

[rapidlocksmiths]

@Nazz2 , yes poor of hickleys not to make this clearer , though if the key that is for both systems then i guess the key covers both delphi and marelli if set to correct one. glad its sorted

[TheNine90]

avdi he does not know keyless and mecanical 8A , I had to buy a tool from China anly for moto to add keys and all key lost unexpectedly good .
Which tool is this?

[davorOS]

hello
i trz to make key on 2016 bmw 220 but when I unlock bdc on end it ask me to write Net data and that failed
so anyone know how to write NCD file back as now I have some error #18

regards

[lush29]

Has anyone yet tested Fbs4 ?

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[vageric]

Has anyone yet tested Fbs4 ?

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can not make fbs4 yet!

[lush29]

can not make fbs4 yet!Not keys and eis, but ecus yes

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[vageric]

Not keys and eis, but ecus yes

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they can only make it vergin.
and you need to program it with online Mercedes acces.

[joemajdalani]

Can also carry out personalization on ECU, done 3 jobs so far, 1 on car 2 on bench

[TheNine90]

hello
i trz to make key on 2016 bmw 220 but when I unlock bdc on end it ask me to write Net data and that failed
so anyone know how to write NCD file back as now I have some error #18

regards
Can you code it using esys?

[fred77]

Hyundai/Kia fantastic thanks Abrites

Now codes seem to be so expensive /unavailable we need this kit more than ever

[davorOS]

hello
I programme it with AVDI
first programme with same flash version and then I get ignition after that I write coding ,NET file, that I first read when start .ncd file

Can you code it using esys?

[lush29]

Can also carry out personalization on ECU, done 3 jobs so far, 1 on car 2 on benchWhat ecus you did ? Md1?

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[joemajdalani]

What ecus you did ? Md1?

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MED1772, EMS71-74

[habbyb]

hello to all of you , has anyone had the opportunity to do it with RH850/v850 MQB AKL keylessgoo , thanks .

[sagie]

hello guys. I have a mercedes ML 2001 with start error. I follow these steps but get stuck at no.4. Arbrites say it could be faulty or wrong transponder 7935. Where does READ CONFIG DATA fall in this process.

Also if i fail OBD and try on bench, i read eeprom and then what next (eeprom already read with xprog ) TIA

1. open mb sw offline and go to das2b (w163)
2. open learn radio code to see which key is already written and ensure terminal 15c is ON
3. exit and go to TRANSPONDER GENERATION and choose PROGRAM ML TRANSPONDER
4. this is where im stuck and tool say PLEASE WAIT on the scroll bar below. It does not complete the programming for me to go the next step of LEARN TRANSPONDER.

[askkey]

hello guys. I have a mercedes ML 2001 with start error. I follow these steps but get stuck at no.4. Arbrites say it could be faulty or wrong transponder 7935. Where does READ CONFIG DATA fall in this process.

Also if i fail OBD and try on bench, i read eeprom and then what next (eeprom already read with xprog ) TIA

1. open mb sw offline and go to das2b (w163)
2. open learn radio code to see which key is already written and ensure terminal 15c is ON
3. exit and go to TRANSPONDER GENERATION and choose PROGRAM ML TRANSPONDER
4. this is where im stuck and tool say PLEASE WAIT on the scroll bar below. It does not complete the programming for me to go the next step of LEARN TRANSPONDER.


You can try and prepare the transponder using the Tag Key Tool function. On the menu where you choose the Mercedes function go all the way down. There you will see the Tag Key Tool fucntion. In there you have a "prepare transponder" subfunction. Coose ML and prepare the chip. If that works you can skip part 4 and go straight to programing with your prepared tranponder.

[sagie]

hi, thanks for the assist. i did try this few days ago and again today with 7935 chip It starts to program and then says CANT WRITE SECTIONS . Does this mean the transponder is wrong or faulty

[askkey]

hi, thanks for the assist. i did try this few days ago and again today with 7935 chip It starts to program and then says CANT WRITE SECTIONS . Does this mean the transponder is wrong or faulty

I am guessing that you are using an aftermarket version of a PCF7935 since NXP stopped production of their original type. So my guess would be that the transponder you are using is the cause as I personally have been unable to find a good replacement to cover my needs (disregard the people reccomending XT15 as the coverage of that is hit or miss at best).

[sagie]

UPDATE : I bought a more expensive nxp 7935 and this time i was able to PROGRAM transponder and avdi scroll bar shows TRANSPONDER WRITTEN. PLEASE TRY START THE VEHICLE WITH THIS TRANSPONDER. After trying next step with new key transponder in ignition, it says FAILED TO LEARN TRANSPONDER TO IMMOBILISER. AAM and AEM show no dtc, except for siren horn, so im assuming the AAM module is good.

What are the chances that the key reader is faulty and causing transponder not getting learned to immobiliser. or could the aam actually be faulty. Any ideas from this point on. TIA

[gttuning]

Hi all
Skoda 2014 JCI cluster needs replacement.
Can Avdi read and write this on bench with programer ??
5E0 920 951 E

Anyone tried successfully.
Thanks


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[askkey]

UPDATE : I bought a more expensive nxp 7935 and this time i was able to PROGRAM transponder and avdi scroll bar shows TRANSPONDER WRITTEN. PLEASE TRY START THE VEHICLE WITH THIS TRANSPONDER. After trying next step with new key transponder in ignition, it says FAILED TO LEARN TRANSPONDER TO IMMOBILISER. AAM and AEM show no dtc, except for siren horn, so im assuming the AAM module is good.

What are the chances that the key reader is faulty and causing transponder not getting learned to immobiliser. or could the aam actually be faulty. Any ideas from this point on. TIA


I have not seen many ML reader coils fail myself. In fact I haven't seen one that has failed. That isn't to say that it can't happen. If it is bad then a quick check with a ignition lock signal tester should help you with making sure.
As for the AAM and AEM mdules, those are known to go bad. Is the car AKL ? Has it been sitting for long ? If it stopped starting with a working key suddenly then my first guess would be the modules, but if the key was lost and it worked up until then, then it could very well be an issue with the programming.
I wouldn't rule out the tranponder still being bad. I have had a lot of issues with aftermarket PCF7935 where I can prepare the key for programing but the car doesn't accept it (Opel ID40 comes to mind).
Any chance you could find a original 7935 somewhere. I know they are unreasnobly expensive but a single one would do to rule out it being the transponder or the car.
The last thing I would do it to attempt the programing procedure several times in a row (while using a car battery charger). Sometimes it can work to "push the programing command through".

[gttuning]

D70F3426 not supported.
Business as usual.


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[qwojtus]

D70F3426 not supported.
Business as usual.


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Haha....dont tell me about it. Try xhorse, recently implemented the replace dash function in their things.

[davorOS]

I had alot problems writting w163 transponders with AVDI so from now I use AVDi to read AAM by obd and use that dump in Tango to make key

allways work like that never have problem

HTH

[sagie]

how would one diagnose if the aam or aem is faulty. Under diagnostic session, both modules are able to be read, with aam giving one dtc -something about siren horn. Aem have no dtc. History is that this car was giving intermittent non start until start error occured,&nbsp; and then car was parked off for a year. Customer did say that occasionally if he was lucky, the car would start, but if he switched off then he would be stuck somewhere, so he parked it off, hoping that someone could fix. <br><br>One thing i did notice today was that i when i tried to READ CONFIG DATA obd, it replied that eeprom could not be read.&nbsp; So if i cannot read config data obd with ori avdi, what does that mean ?&nbsp; i can read dtc, but under special functions, i cannot read config data.<br><br>another thing i also noticed that the original transponder that used to start the car when it was running, now shows ERROR with KEY IN IGNITION LOCK. With programming the new NXP transponder today, although the programming was sucessful, this also show ERROR with KEY IN IGNITION LOCK. And thats the reason why im suspecting the key reader/antena is not processing the already programmed transponder to the aam. I plan on getting another used key antenae to start elimanating and will update here, Thanks for all advice

[cl55]

check the key chip number is visible on the immo, you can see it in the menu item where the key locking buttons are programmed with avdi

[sagie]

check the key chip number is visible on the immo, you can see it in the menu item where the key locking buttons are programmed with avdi

not sure what you referring to, are you able to post a pic of that section or which menu part. Or maybe check my pic i posted on last post, it shows ERROR instead of key

[cl55]

yes, if the key chip is correct or the new chip is correctly calculated and programmed, the chip number is displayed in that menu, if even the factory keys are not shown as recognized - the eeprom data may be damaged and therefore neither the original nor the programmed chips are recognized
theoretically, there could be a problem with the antenna, but I think its error would be displayed, or you can try disconnecting the antenna and see if the absence of the antenna can cause an error and a problem

[sagie]

UPDATE: i plugged in the used aam same part numbers and used star to code in. Now it shows KEY 1 and there is no more ERROR in the key section as was&nbsp; previously shown. This now confirms that AAM was faulty.&nbsp; I try program same nxp transponder again (ONE THAT I PROGRAMMED TO ORIGINAL AAM ) and it say transponder programmed and should try start car. Again when i go to learn transponder, it fails. Possibly because i used already programmed transponder. I will buy another nxp transponder and try again, hopefully that might solve the start error.&nbsp; <br><br>

other option is that i did remove mcu from the used aam when i was experimenting with removing 80 pin mcu. I read eeprom with xprog at that stage and resoldered the mcu back. So if i have a good eeprom read, can i not use the eeprom to program new transponder on the bench.

[Matronix]

Has anyone yet tested Fbs4 ?

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Well... tested... somewhat yes... but still need to get word back from customer or it works - had DSM (FBS4 ISM) and needed to replace - have to open it, read it by lifting pin and solder some wires , then read with FBS4 DAS . I read with programmer as well and saved data. Got it written in the donor and checked afterwards with the DAS FBS4 manager, it seemed ok but as said.. need to get word from the customer or all is ok. Since then noticed prices on a new DSM/ISM and even after the costs for subs for Xentry online coding etc it's not worth opening two of these up and the hassle of reading/writing so it was a once in a lifetime I guess unless a good reason comes up to do it again

[lush29]

Well... tested... somewhat yes... but still need to get word back from customer or it works - had DSM (FBS4 ISM) and needed to replace - have to open it, read it by lifting pin and solder some wires , then read with FBS4 DAS . I read with programmer as well and saved data. Got it written in the donor and checked afterwards with the DAS FBS4 manager, it seemed ok but as said.. need to get word from the customer or all is ok. Since then noticed prices on a new DSM/ISM and even after the costs for subs for Xentry online coding etc it's not worth opening two of these up and the hassle of reading/writing so it was a once in a lifetime I guess unless a good reason comes up to do it againDid one also back in December also, true for the work that needs to be done,then maybe selling won't last,not worth it. I was asking more about the likes of md1 ecus and Eis

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[gttuning]

Guys any hassle with virtual cockpit with programer.
Read ok. Modified what i wanted and hit write
Write finish success.
Solder back my components but dash dead.
Recheck all looks ok.
Unsolder components to see if dash has com to programer.
Conect back on bench ok.
I can read cluster ok.
My modification is ok. Displays km that i wanted.

Is there any trick. Or im doing something wrong.

Only thing is i cant write again as im stuck on "connecting to programer" message for some reason.

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[gttuning]

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Looks like dash dead[emoji851][emoji851].
After write ok desolder all back to place. Rechecked before conect and dash blank.

When i read dash again i can read it but wont write back anything.
Message stuck on connecting to programer.
Anyone experience such a thing yet?
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[gttuning]

Passat back on the road [emoji3]
Abrites support super quickly send us repaired files.

Support 5 star on this one. [emoji122]


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[alkaskad]

Was your cluster completely dead? I have a same case; after modification no signs of life on cluster, connected it on lab power source, it pulls only 0,04 Amps. I was considering getting another one, but I saw your post here and sent support request... I hope I will be lucky sam as you...

[gttuning]

Was your cluster completely dead? I have a same case; after modification no signs of life on cluster, connected it on lab power source, it pulls only 0,04 Amps. I was considering getting another one, but I saw your post here and sent support request... I hope I will be lucky sam as you...

Yes dead in the car but i still could conect with programer and read mcu.
Send files to support.
What i think happens programer read files bad and it cant verify it.
And when you write back damaged file this is what you get

Send files to avdi support and they will repair it for you and once you solder to your cluster go striaght to load file. Modify you km and write it back.
You should be fine then

I took all safety measures and my experience with this job not to f...up and still issue.
But i know that this isn't stable read write solution yet. So expect shit to happen. But aslong files can be fixed i dont mind.
Hope your case can be solved.

Support done a great job on this case.



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[alkaskad]

Yes dead in the car but i still could conect with programer and read mcu.
Send files to support.
What i think happens programer read files bad and it cant verify it.
And when you write back damaged file this is what you get

Send files to avdi support and they will repair it for you and once you solder to your cluster go striaght to load file. Modify you km and write it back.
You should be fine then

I took all safety measures and my experience with this job not to f...up and still issue.
But i know that this isn't stable read write solution yet. So expect shit to happen. But aslong files can be fixed i dont mind.
Hope your case can be solved.

Support done a great job on this case.



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They repaired my file and cluster came back to life! I was convinced that I've messed up something physical and was ready to send this one for repair or buy another one... You have no idea how your post saved my ass! Thanks again!

[gttuning]

They repaired my file and cluster came back to life! I was convinced that I've messed up something physical and was ready to send this one for repair or buy another one... You have no idea how your post saved my ass! Thanks again!

Thats cool. [emoji3577] would you mind send me both file original and repaired ? Just want to see if repair file is fixed in same sector as mine.
My email is
gttuning@yahoo.com

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[sagie]

Any chance you could find a original 7935 somewhere. I know they are unreasnobly expensive but a single one would do to rule out it being the transponder or the car.

any idea where i can purchase an original 7935

[qwojtus]

They repaired my file and cluster came back to life! I was convinced that I've messed up something physical and was ready to send this one for repair or buy another one... You have no idea how your post saved my ass! Thanks again!

The same here. MQB VDO D70F7526, after writing with Rh850 prog cluster is dead. In this case manage to have backup from different programmer.

[whiskeyman]

The same here. MQB VDO D70F7526, after writing with Rh850 prog cluster is dead. In this case manage to have backup from different programmer.

sounding a very dangerous tool at the moment

[gttuning]

Jci skoda 2018
5E0920981F
D70F3529
Read write ok.
Jobe done successfully.


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[qwojtus]

sounding a very dangerous tool at the moment

For making keys you need to READ data only. Writing is required when replace the dash or just need to change component protection or something else.

Abrites should fix the issue which defo exists, rather than keep adding $400 licences in beta stage.

[gttuning]

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These r not that complicated.
And aslong support can fix the file i dont mind.
But sure this needs fixing as thisbis not user error.
Its programer.



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[Spiritech]

For making keys you need to READ data only. Writing is required when replace the dash or just need to change component protection or something else.

Abrites should fix the issue which defo exists, rather than keep adding $400 licences in beta stage.


V850/RH850 are an erase to read function with all programmers, the chip is erased to remove security, then read and re-written and re-locked during the 'read' procedure. This is why it takes so long. A dead cluster until fixed files are sent are always a possibility if anything at all goes wrong during the erase/read/write cycle. Hopefully one day they will have automated file recovery for us.

[fred77]

V850/RH850 are an erase to read function with all programmers, the chip is erased to remove security, then read and re-written and re-locked during the 'read' procedure. This is why it takes so long. A dead cluster until fixed files are sent are always a possibility if anything at all goes wrong during the erase/read/write cycle. Hopefully one day they will have automated file recovery for us.


maybe this is why we are waiting so long for multiprog cable so xhorse can fix bugs lol

[gttuning]

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Hello abrites.
Please repair this.
Us avdi customers reported this last year if not more.
Reading immo data tp2.0 micronas it frezz at address seen on screen.
I have payed for this function so please repair this.
I have reported this as many other users.
Hope yous get this that we support avdi to be best tool but you fail to repair this function


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[askkey]

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Hello abrites.
Please repair this.
Us avdi customers reported this last year if not more.
Reading immo data tp2.0 micronas it frezz at address seen on screen.
I have payed for this function so please repair this.
I have reported this as many other users.
Hope yous get this that we support avdi to be best tool but you fail to repair this function


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Can confirm. I had the issue on A3 PQ cars for several years now. To be honest, other VAG functions have been acting up quite a bit in the recent couple of years. Especially the functions for older stuff (like windows freezing while reading NEC clusters or unable to read pin on K-line cars) , but usually if a problem arises on Dash immo reading, the function still works on wizard or standard mode or vice versa. But on the 8p Audi, nothing has worked for quite some time.
I think I have brought it up before some time ago but as usual not progress from AVDI side.

[tagirdn]

Hi all.
Question about vag.
Is it possible to write a synchronization file to mqb in Abrites? Calculated not abrites.


Sometimes I have a synchronization file and need to make a dealer key. But abritus asks to enter the CS.
I know what and how to do it.


But the question is specifically about abrites.

[habbyb]

only manually you can put cs ecu , cs dash , cs tcu , exception keylessgoo .

[tagirdn]

I understand that it is done manually. For example
I have KS from the speedometer.
And there is a calculated synchronization file with cs ecu, cs tcu
It contains 32 bytes, 16 in each line. I assume that this is 16 with cs ecu and 16 s tcu.
Can I enter them manually into abrites and generate a dealer key?


Maybe someone tried it.
The idea came recently, and there was no opportunity to test this option.

[owdi]

Hello abrites.
Please repair this.
Us avdi customers reported this last year if not more.
Reading immo data tp2.0 micronas it frezz at address seen on screen.
I have payed for this function so please repair this.
I have reported this as many other users.
Hope yous get this that we support avdi to be best tool but you fail to repair this function
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@gttuning I'm guessing you were attempting to read a later A3 8P cluster via OBD, approximately mid to late 2009 onwards? As far as I know AVDI has never been able to read the later A3 8P immo data on clusters via OBD, approximately mid 2009 onwards. I've never understood this, AVDI has been able to read Golf MK6 clusters all the way until the final versions around 2012 (I'm aware Golf 6 cabriolet was produced until after 2012 but I've not worked on one) and much newer NEC clusters such as Caddy MK4, why didn't they manage to read A3 8P clusters 2009-2013? I wish the developers would put some time into this as it's still a nuisance of a problem with AVDI.

Can anyone confirm if other brand tools read these clusters okay?

[gttuning]

@gttuning I'm guessing you were attempting to read a later A3 8P cluster via OBD, approximately mid to late 2009 onwards? As far as I know AVDI has never been able to read the later A3 8P immo data on clusters via OBD, approximately mid 2009 onwards. I've never understood this, AVDI has been able to read Golf MK6 clusters all the way until the final versions around 2012 (I'm aware Golf 6 cabriolet was produced until after 2012 but I've not worked on one) and much newer NEC clusters such as Caddy MK4, why didn't they manage to read A3 8P clusters 2009-2013? I wish the developers would put some time into this as it's still a nuisance of a problem with AVDI.

Can anyone confirm if other brand tools read these clusters okay?

It was 2011 year
And yes autel im608 Reads perfectly
Read immo data do dealer key and learn key is under 3min


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[Matronix]

AKL VW Up! - 2011 I think it was , not sure. Autel got wrong cluster in auto detection, tried Abrites and it selects right one, but after adding keys (tried 2 times) it had 4 keys but no start. Selected the correct one in Autel, and instead of add key option it did make dealer key , programmed it and all good. Abrites did not have the learn or make dealer key option, only 'add key' - Offline this was under key learning and it auto selected correct Magneti cluster

[fred77]

AKL VW Up! - 2011 I think it was , not sure. Autel got wrong cluster in auto detection, tried Abrites and it selects right one, but after adding keys (tried 2 times) it had 4 keys but no start. Selected the correct one in Autel, and instead of add key option it did make dealer key , programmed it and all good. Abrites did not have the learn or make dealer key option, only 'add key' - Offline this was under key learning and it auto selected correct Magneti cluster


Was a while but believe i did a 2017 no bother -dash wasn't locked and had running in minutes

[auto techniek]

Yesterday tried to program key for Renault Clio IV with Renault online
No way to program a key. Get message key not programmed. no way to program a key
Tried offline programming. Also no way to program key

Finally i did reset UCH. renew it then it ask me if need to progran blanck key/abrites key. Choose blank key. Then key was precoded.
This time it programmed a key.

I always use online option and never had issues.
Any idea what is wrong?

[nazz2]

Guys, has anyone done a 2022 Peugeout Boxer, the 3 button susage type remote? this is a spare key which is faulty,thanks

[rapidlocksmiths]

abrites can precode a key from dump on this year and then program in by obd

https://abrites.com/news/abrites-diagnostics-for-fiat-chrysler-automobiles-version-8-9

or oder dealer precoded key and program via obd

[whiskeyman]

abrites can precode a key from dump on this year and then program in by obd

https://abrites.com/news/abrites-diagnostics-for-fiat-chrysler-automobiles-version-8-9

or oder dealer precoded key and program via obd

hopefully they can crack this so just by obd lot of hassle just for a spare

[nazz2]

Yes, too much hassle for spare key, this belongs to an Ambulance, i might take the key apart to repair it,thanks

@Martin, i wonder why the didn't mention Relay and Boxer, i hope that they are same FCA, system,

[gttuning]

2006 E90 2.0 petrol
Ecu MEV9.2 water damaged.
Secondhand ecu ISN read ok by obd
CAS2 read ISN ok write ecu ISN ok
Car starts ok[emoji106]


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[Matronix]

Yesterday tried to program key for Renault Clio IV with Renault online
No way to program a key. Get message key not programmed. no way to program a key
Tried offline programming. Also no way to program key

Finally i did reset UCH. renew it then it ask me if need to progran blanck key/abrites key. Choose blank key. Then key was precoded.
This time it programmed a key.

I always use online option and never had issues.
Any idea what is wrong?


was original key coded in again? Or none of hem. Got one that did not do the new key, turned out with reckonising the 'new key' it was ok with it but it was not the right key ... had some stock mixed up. Other key was ok. In that situation the ori key programmed back in fine, just not the extra one

[auto techniek]

It was all keys lost situation


was original key coded in again? Or none of hem. Got one that did not do the new key, turned out with reckonising the 'new key' it was ok with it but it was not the right key ... had some stock mixed up. Other key was ok. In that situation the ori key programmed back in fine, just not the extra one

[tagirdn]

Yesterday I did the Audi A6 2012. Keyless Go
Abrites read everything. But when it came time to do the dealer kay, he did nothing.
vvdi key - said that this is not an abritus emulator.
5 different other keys, the dealer could not make a key. It says that it cannot change the chip.
After that, these keys were quietly recorded by two Chinese programmers and one European. But not abrites.
This is the second such car. The first one was '13 and just needed to add a key.
But the result was the same. Zero.
At that time I chalked it up to the keys.
But this time, all the keys were from my colleagues.
I took it specially.

[Spiritech]

Yesterday I did the Audi A6 2012. Keyless Go
Abrites read everything. But when it came time to do the dealer kay, he did nothing.
vvdi key - said that this is not an abritus emulator.
5 different other keys, the dealer could not make a key. It says that it cannot change the chip.
After that, these keys were quietly recorded by two Chinese programmers and one European. But not abrites.
This is the second such car. The first one was '13 and just needed to add a key.
But the result was the same. Zero.
At that time I chalked it up to the keys.
But this time, all the keys were from my colleagues.
I took it specially.


Abrities is telling you the specific problem, it's looking for one of their keys, not a chinese key or a vvdi key. https://abrites.com/products/ta46 is the item you're looking for to make this procedure work with Abrities(correct the frequency for your market).

[qwojtus]

Same here. "If I could turn back time".

I was not aware and purchased many Abrites authorizations and now realized I cant program NON abrites keys. Looks like it accepts in many cases only their keys. JLR, VAG I think new Fiat or mercedes.
Not very useful policy for me. Shame, I did not know that.

[mjoesen]

Maybe is it something with Vvdi keys on Avdi? I use aftermarket keys from China on Audi. I have not have this problem so far with Avdi. I have not tried Vvdi keys for Audi on Avdi. But Xhorse Mqb chip (the cheramic chip) did not work on Avdi last time I tried. I could not precode it.

But I have not programed a Audi slot key after the last update.

[electromech]

Same here. "If I could turn back time".

I was not aware and purchased many Abrites authorizations and now realized I cant program NON abrites keys. Looks like it accepts in many cases only their keys. JLR, VAG I think new Fiat or mercedes.
Not very useful policy for me. Shame, I did not know that.

Yes hence most of us have given up on Abrites ever being a good company...they are only interested in taking as much money from us as possible..With the cost of their keys as well as AMS what is left for us to make?

[pepi]

Also MB BE keys cant be programmed with AVDI any more .

[tagirdn]

It was keyless entry.
It's not that I feel sorry for the money. But buying a key for 150 pounds, keyless go, is stupid.
Devices for 1000-1500 pounds that do this without problems.
This is what infuriates me. I have been supporting Abrites for 12 years now, and he does everything he can to get me to switch to other equipment.


“Thank you” that this is at least only when making a dealer key. If the key is prepared, then it writes and rewrites them all.

[tagirdn]

I collect razors.
Some companies made razors for their own blades.
Some fit standard blades. Like Gillette.


What am I talking about?


And to the fact that companies producing razors and their blades simply could not withstand the competition. And they disappeared from the market within 10-20 years.


But others that used common blades lasted a very long time. Some still exist.


I think that everything is clear here.


I used to be able to recommend Abrites. Now, because of this policy, I don’t want to do this.


I would like to hear the opinion of the representative of Abrites.

[tagirdn]

Also, with such a policy, they are required to write this in the description.
Such and such functions are supported only by their keys. And you can't use others. And don't write it in small print


Many have already bought a lot. But new buyers should know this.


If it turns out that I come to some A4 from 2009 and can’t get the dealer key, then I’ll probably buy other equipment and stop investing (in this case, throwing away) money in Abrites.


It is clear that this is my opinion and decision. But many will come to this.


After all, if you were the best 10 years ago. This does not mean that you are still the best.

[autoTkey]

Yesterday I did the Audi A6 2012. Keyless Go
Abrites read everything. But when it came time to do the dealer kay, he did nothing.
vvdi key - said that this is not an abritus emulator.
5 different other keys, the dealer could not make a key. It says that it cannot change the chip.
After that, these keys were quietly recorded by two Chinese programmers and one European. But not abrites.
This is the second such car. The first one was '13 and just needed to add a key.
But the result was the same. Zero.
At that time I chalked it up to the keys.
But this time, all the keys were from my colleagues.
I took it specially.

Just tested what you talk about as it is not as I remember it.
You can make dealer key with whatever key you want if you are just adding a second one.
It only requires Abritus key if it is AKL situation, which makes sense since it is a more complicated procedure. Was your case AKL?
I tested with A8 2017 BCM2 dump.

[rapidlocksmiths]

abrites was always able to code be keys and aftermarket keys , when did this change ?

im glad i switched to mb extreme tool on mercedes , if the case this is another example of total disregard for their existing customers who bought this when it could do be keys , they should get this functionality back. who can compete in todays market using abrites keys ? autel , vvdi , silca , zedfull , mb extreme amongst others all able to do far cheaper das3 keys than avdi if tied to their keys .

if the case then shame on abrites AlekN , i guess this is why we dont hear from you any longer , times must be really hard for abrites at present if they have to resort to these tricks again , i hope not the case.

though i guess your competitors are rubbing their hands together in glee as will send many more customers to them if this is true.

[autoTkey]

Also MB BE keys cant be programmed with AVDI any more .

Since when? Didn't have problems with those either but it was a while ago since the last Benz...

[Fallen]

It could also be a case of the other manufacturers changing something with their BE keys so that Abritus can't use them.
It would make sense as it would push people away from AVDI.

[tagirdn]

Just tested what you talk about as it is not as I remember it.
You can make dealer key with whatever key you want if you are just adding a second one.
It only requires Abritus key if it is AKL situation, which makes sense since it is a more complicated procedure. Was your case AKL?
I tested with A8 2017 BCM2 dump.


This was an ACL situation.
But after the keys were recorded in the car. I repeated this procedure.
I came in with the existing key, which was recorded in the car, and started it. And Abrites again sent me through the forest. And the dealer did not want to prepare a key. There were many keys available. He rejected them all.
Wrote. Or, this is not an abrtes emulator. Or, it cannot register the chip.
And all the keys are from different parties and purchases. This eliminates the possibility of key malfunction. In addition, they were registered in China.
In a situation where Abrites did not read some of the car data. automatic transmission or steering lock, then it is generally useless. At least for me.
Since the file has 32 bytes of synchronization, Abrites does not accept it. Because it does not have such a function.
And Chinese programmers write without problems.

[tagirdn]

It could also be a case of the other manufacturers changing something with their BE keys so that Abritus can't use them.
It would make sense as it would push people away from AVDI.

The key manufacturer doesn't care what you write with..
It's even better when many devices do this.


One manufacturer of Mercedes programmer had a similar problem.
This was about 7 years ago. Initially, they made their own keys.
But they appeared on a raft in China.
The device manufacturer, in one of the updates, disabled the reading of Chinese keys.
I corresponded with him. He told me a lot. But I'm a user. He refused to return the ability to write Chinese keys. But I didn’t want to write down only their keys, which were much more expensive.
I sold their device and bought another one.
Then they seemed to change their policy, but they were no longer interesting to me. And I wasn't the only one.


Therefore, I doubt that any key manufacturer will refuse to support its keys in other devices.


Unless, of course, they stepped on his toes. :)

[autoTkey]

I can recall AVDI already had a situation with the Xhorse Benz keys, 2-3 years ago. Suddenly it couldn't support the Xhorse keys. It was because Abrites changed something in their software but it was more like a BUG. I remember also it was only a short lasting problem and was fixed in a timely manner. So I doubt it will be something permanent even if it really exists such a problem right now.

As a matter of fact, AVDI supports just any BE key(fact check - https://abrites.com/news/abrites-tagkeytool-version-11-7), they do not focus specifically on Xhorse keys. If it is BE key it should work, unless they decide to remove the BE keys support.

As for the AUDI A6 problem - as I said, yesterday I tested key dealer key generation by dump on A8 2017 and it worked on Xhorse key for an add key situation. I had no car around but there were no messages or requirements to use Abrites key. Of course, first you need to use Xhorse software to generate the key for the proper model and after that it works as a regular aftermarket or OEM key. So if the non-Abrites keys are blocked then the OEM keys will be blocked too, which is nonsense. What the problem was in your situation, should be something else.
On AKL cars it is written with big bold letters (before you even start the procedure), that you can make it only with Abrites key as it is a different procedure (which means no aftermarket or OEM keys will work).

[tagirdn]

I can recall AVDI already had a situation with the Xhorse Benz keys, 2-3 years ago. Suddenly it couldn't support the Xhorse keys. It was because Abrites changed something in their software but it was more like a BUG. I remember also it was only a short lasting problem and was fixed in a timely manner. So I doubt it will be something permanent even if it really exists such a problem right now.

As a matter of fact, AVDI supports just any BE key(fact check - https://abrites.com/news/abrites-tagkeytool-version-11-7), they do not focus specifically on Xhorse keys. If it is BE key it should work, unless they decide to remove the BE keys support.

As for the AUDI A6 problem - as I said, yesterday I tested key dealer key generation by dump on A8 2017 and it worked on Xhorse key for an add key situation. I had no car around but there were no messages or requirements to use Abrites key. Of course, first you need to use Xhorse software to generate the key for the proper model and after that it works as a regular aftermarket or OEM key. So if the non-Abrites keys are blocked then the OEM keys will be blocked too, which is nonsense. What the problem was in your situation, should be something else.
On AKL cars it is written with big bold letters (before you even start the procedure), that you can make it only with Abrites key as it is a different procedure (which means no aftermarket or OEM keys will work).

Maybe you know.
Are these keys disposable?
Or can they be rewritten?

[autoTkey]

Chinese keys can be rewritten (I mean Xhorse ones) but Abritus keys can't. Still, they can be unlocked and used again, but only if you have with you the car to which they were locked (made dealer). You ask about AUDI keys, right?

[tagirdn]

Thank you.
Yes, I'm asking about the Audi.
So that you can write down the key when lost. Their key.
Then add a second one.
And unlock the abritus key. So that it could be used again.

[gttuning]

Hi all
Dose esl emulator EM001 works on crafter same as sprinter??


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[davorOS]

YES,work on crafter also

[davorOS]

today I try to make spare key on 2020 megane so AVDI ask for CAN adapter so plug it in and flash BCM all OK and I can start car with old key but when AVDI ask to touch antena with key

to programme key AVDI can recognize any key,original and new one so couldn't make key

anyone had issue with this renault?

I did few Clio,megane and DACIA wit can adapter without problem so any help welcome

regards

[mjoesen]

Hi davorOS, did you manage to reprogram old key but not new key or not any? Do you have signal from startbutton (coil)?

I have never programmed a key to this Megane model but some on new Zoe with same keys. Zoe accept Oem key, aftermarket (from china) and KeyDiy keys.

[davorOS]

not any
AVDI couldn't read old key card and new keycard
it is keyless card version not key blade version

it's not first card I did on megane,I also did 2023 without problems,card and blade keys but this one not

it simply coludn't read cards when touch buttom

I will try it on thursday again

regards

[fred77]

Yes hence most of us have given up on Abrites ever being a good company...they are only interested in taking as much money from us as possible..With the cost of their keys as well as AMS what is left for us to make?

Xhorse do same but obviously charge alot less.

But point taken we won't be using kit forcing us to use their expensive keys

[qeso705]

abrites was always able to code be keys and aftermarket keys , when did this change ?

im glad i switched to mb extreme tool on mercedes , if the case this is another example of total disregard for their existing customers who bought this when it could do be keys , they should get this functionality back. who can compete in todays market using abrites keys ? autel , vvdi , silca , zedfull , mb extreme amongst others all able to do far cheaper das3 keys than avdi if tied to their keys .

if the case then shame on abrites AlekN , i guess this is why we dont hear from you any longer , times must be really hard for abrites at present if they have to resort to these tricks again , i hope not the case.

though i guess your competitors are rubbing their hands together in glee as will send many more customers to them if this is true.


AlekN dont answer on inconvenient questions. It is not first time when it happend. Sad part is that a lot of peopel did believe that company with such story behind decide to make another choice...

[foxtec800]

I did 2 Mercedes yesterday and 1 today with BE keys using avdi, programmed them with no issues at all
I dont use Xhorse keys for these so cant comment on them, but Chinese Be worked fine for me with latest
update installed

[tagirdn]

Hello everyone.


I have a 2019 q2 to add. In the mqb48 key.


Speedometer clock 81A920940C
I don't know what's inside. Since I haven't disassembled it.


But I tried to read the abrites immobilizer date. And it couldn't do it.


I understand that there is an RH850 there?

[joemajdalani]

I did 2 Mercedes yesterday and 1 today with BE keys using avdi, programmed them with no issues at all
I dont use Xhorse keys for these so cant comment on them, but Chinese Be worked fine for me with latest
update installed

Just tested VVDI PN. XNBZT1GL and works fine

[habbyb]

Hello everyone.


I have a 2019 q2 to add. In the mqb48 key.


Speedometer clock 81A920940C
I don't know what's inside. Since I haven't disassembled it.


But I tried to read the abrites immobilizer date. And it couldn't do it.


I understand that there is an RH850 there?

I don't think you will find it in the list programer rh850 from part number

[jodge]

i'm trying to collecting info about the different v850 prommers what's your opinion about the avdi?

[owari]

hi, it's corect like all other tool sometime not work or not supported hardware number. But you can do the job for price.

[mbedv]

Poldiag work 100%, without any problems

[habbyb]

abrites , work 100%, without any problems

[autoTkey]

I tried it a few times - definitely not work at 100% but it works. It's just that they still have not covered all possible dashes and their revisions. Very complicated work on these clusters.

[fred77]

i'm trying to collecting info about the different v850 prommers what's your opinion about the avdi?


got my xhorse lols

[offsystem]

tested 2 sharan PQ cluster sw 3030 and 4030 and always get from RH Programmer target could not be connected, connections are 100% ok like in manual

[hollanda]

tested 2 sharan PQ cluster sw 3030 and 4030 and always get from RH Programmer target could not be connected, connections are 100% ok like in manual

have you also test this version by service mode eeprom? And the read the cluster by obd

[offsystem]

tested not, but this versions cant be done over service mode

[tagirdn]

Hello. Has anyone done a 2021 Nissan E Power abritus?

[gttuning]

2015 polo mqb vdo
Cant make dealer key
Transponder wrong position.
Autel no issues make dealer key and learn keys ok

We have reported this issue with golf 7
Months back no thing obviously fixed.


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[lush29]

2018 ford custom , akl alarm active, every time avdi goes to 10 min waiting time and at the end "version not supported" , I have to send logs to them but...

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[askkey]

2018 ford custom , akl alarm active, every time avdi goes to 10 min waiting time and at the end "version not supported" , I have to send logs to them but...

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There has been no improvement on the AVDI Ford software in years and years. And after promising fixes and not delivering Aelek stopped being active on the forum as well so I guess that is a sign to not expect anything.
I stopped hoping for anything and stopped trying to use the function altogether. It is sad that devices that cost a couple hundred can do Fords faster and more reliably as well as have bigger coverage then AVDI.
But hey : fiRsT iN THe woRLd :tongue-new:

[rapidlocksmiths]

Yes it is dissapointing after all the promises that ford was getting a major revamp , but now its a free function they probably feel they dont need to fix it as free , and tough on us fools that paid for it.
more dissapointing is AlekN vanishing , i know its a dissapointing when so many posts on avdi are negative ones , but at end of day a tool marketted as top end and sold at inflated premium prices should do what it says on the tin and sadly with avdi this is often not the case now .

nothing has changed sadly

[whiskeyman]

we have no need for half the bull they say they can do
when we cant even do a new ford transit van
one of the most popular van in the world

na they would rather concentrate on crap that most people wont see every day

[rapidlocksmiths]

we have no need for half the bull they say they can do
when we cant even do a new ford transit van
one of the most popular van in the world

na they would rather concentrate on crap that most people wont see every day

Add to this that others are beating them to new coverage , smart pro now doing fiat ducato , citroen relay and peugeot boxer to 2024 by obd with fiat needing bypass cable or box , abrites from pre read dump only , fiat 500 after 2021 abrites can only code an oem key as remote fails on aftermarket , smart pro can code aftermarket keys , so falling behind on fca which was a jewel in their crown.

It seems to be the solutions we all need they ignore , fixing the softwares we have paid for like ford still poor , i can see investments being spent elsewhere in future .

still has alot of good coverage but is no longer the market leading premium tool its sold as , as such the marketing just aims at new customers and workshops , which is a shame , but no one is number 1 for ever .

[mjoesen]

Hello rapid! Did I understand you right when you say that smartpro can precode and program keys by Obd without removing bcm? That is great news, I did not know.

I programed an aftermarket remote on Ducato 2021+ last week with avdi and it worked fine. But I have to take out bcm and read eeprom to precode.

[rapidlocksmiths]

Hello rapid! Did I understand you right when you say that smartpro can precode and program keys by Obd without removing bcm? That is great news, I did not know.

I programed an aftermarket remote on Ducato 2021+ last week with avdi and it worked fine. But I have to take out bcm and read eeprom to precode.

aftermarket work fine on ducato , always have done with avdi , the issue is the fiat 500 with mopar , avdi support say you can only use oem key as remote functions work back to front as if using wrong key with aftermarket . wasnt a problem when oem delphi boards were available , thats the advice from abrites support and also reuires cluster out to connect to gateway.

SP claim the fiat 500 from 2020 to 2024 all obd even all keys lost but you will need the smart ariel plus for procoding as wont work with old smart ariel.

yes smart pro now do ducato , relay and boxer up to 2024 with SP

Fiat ducato models 2023 - 2024 with gateway they have partial coverage and working key required so not akl on these years yet
Fiat ducato models to 2021 again partial coverage not all bcm covered but akl also by obd no working key required

citroen relay mykeys states models 2022 to 2024 all obd no working key required
citroen relay mykeys states models to 2022 same all by obd

peugeot boxer they still only list up to 2020 by obd , but i did a mid 2021 a few weeks ago without issue

so yes , fiat 500 hybrid bladed by obd fully with smart ariel plus

ducato 2020 to 2024 partial coverage for now by obd not full yet and gateway lead or bypass box needed for models 2023 to 2024 and on 2023 - 2024 not all keys lost yet.

relay listed as fully obd to 2024 , so despite not full coverage at present , still alot further on than others including abrites.

[whiskeyman]

aftermarket work fine on ducato , always have done with avdi , the issue is the fiat 500 with mopar , avdi support say you can only use oem key as remote functions work back to front as if using wrong key with aftermarket . wasnt a problem when oem delphi boards were available , thats the advice from abrites support and also reuires cluster out to connect to gateway.

SP claim the fiat 500 from 2020 to 2024 all obd even all keys lost but you will need the smart ariel plus for procoding as wont work with old smart ariel.

yes smart pro now do ducato , relay and boxer up to 2024 with SP

Fiat ducato models 2023 - 2024 with gateway they have partial coverage and working key required so not akl on these years yet
Fiat ducato models to 2021 again partial coverage not all bcm covered but akl also by obd no working key required

citroen relay mykeys states models 2022 to 2024 all obd no working key required
citroen relay mykeys states models to 2022 same all by obd

peugeot boxer they still only list up to 2020 by obd , but i did a mid 2021 a few weeks ago without issue

so yes , fiat 500 hybrid bladed by obd fully with smart ariel plus

ducato 2020 to 2024 partial coverage for now by obd not full yet and gateway lead or bypass box needed for models 2023 to 2024 and on 2023 - 2024 not all keys lost yet.

relay listed as fully obd to 2024 , so despite not full coverage at present , still alot further on than others including abrites.

i thought the smart ariel plus was just for cloning?

[Spiritech]

No, SA+ is a replacement for the SA Classic. No new features are going to be supported by SA Classic going forward.

[westwoody]

i attempted a fiat 500 hybrid 71 plate today, it reads pin code ok but doesn't show it ,when precoding it just kept saying this chip is used do you want to try another, i didn't bother calling the technical helpline ( smartpro)

[ttzag]

An active AMS opens the door for hundreds of possibilities, without the need to purchase licenses additionally! For example:
Key programming: All keys lost and spare key programming, and EZS password extraction for all DAS3/FBS3 Mercedes-Benz vehicles via DAS MANAGER
Module adaptation: Service password reading used for making virgin all DAS-related modules in Mercedes-Benz vehicles, as well as Adaptation/Personalization and Activation of all DAS/FBS modules, Read/Save/Update/Transfer FBS Data, set each DAS/FBS module to virgin state
Key programming for CAS3/CAS3+ BMW vehicles
Key programming and All keys lost programming for all Toyota/Lexus vehicles up to 2018 (G-type and H-type mechanical and smart keys) via OBDII
Smart system reset for Toyota/Lexus vehicles up to 2018
Key programming for Honda vehicles up to MY2022
And hundreds more!
(See all of them in the attached document in the product description in the online shop HERE)
================================================== ===============

they opened for free ? or i am wrong?!!

recieved this email yesterday

[Spiritech]

An active AMS opens the door for hundreds of possibilities, without the need to purchase licenses additionally! For example:
Key programming: All keys lost and spare key programming, and EZS password extraction for all DAS3/FBS3 Mercedes-Benz vehicles via DAS MANAGER
Module adaptation: Service password reading used for making virgin all DAS-related modules in Mercedes-Benz vehicles, as well as Adaptation/Personalization and Activation of all DAS/FBS modules, Read/Save/Update/Transfer FBS Data, set each DAS/FBS module to virgin state
Key programming for CAS3/CAS3+ BMW vehicles
Key programming and All keys lost programming for all Toyota/Lexus vehicles up to 2018 (G-type and H-type mechanical and smart keys) via OBDII
Smart system reset for Toyota/Lexus vehicles up to 2018
Key programming for Honda vehicles up to MY2022
And hundreds more!
(See all of them in the attached document in the product description in the online shop HERE)
================================================== ===============

they opened for free ? or i am wrong?!!

recieved this email yesterday

Certainly looks like it.

Just looked at the doc and it seems most older key programming is now just included if you have active AMS. No CAS4 FEM/BDC though, and still need licences to read the ISN. Giving away the entirety of Mercedes except their FBS4/Trucks stuff is a bit odd but I suppose so many tools do it now at a much lower cost. Maybe there's something really big coming like G Body keys or FBS4 keys without module swaps and they're banking on getting a wide install base of base units out there in the hopes they jump on something new.

[askkey]

An active AMS opens the door for hundreds of possibilities, without the need to purchase licenses additionally! For example:
Key programming: All keys lost and spare key programming, and EZS password extraction for all DAS3/FBS3 Mercedes-Benz vehicles via DAS MANAGER
Module adaptation: Service password reading used for making virgin all DAS-related modules in Mercedes-Benz vehicles, as well as Adaptation/Personalization and Activation of all DAS/FBS modules, Read/Save/Update/Transfer FBS Data, set each DAS/FBS module to virgin state
Key programming for CAS3/CAS3+ BMW vehicles
Key programming and All keys lost programming for all Toyota/Lexus vehicles up to 2018 (G-type and H-type mechanical and smart keys) via OBDII
Smart system reset for Toyota/Lexus vehicles up to 2018
Key programming for Honda vehicles up to MY2022
And hundreds more!
(See all of them in the attached document in the product description in the online shop HERE)
================================================== ===============

they opened for free ? or i am wrong?!!

recieved this email yesterday


Yes, they opened up a lot of functions when they increased the price of the AMS. Now you just need the hardware that costs arround 1600 euro to have a device that has a little less coverage than Autel for the same price. It is an option for someone that is getting in the market and does older cars.
I am just a bit miffed that they increased the AMS price for us that already had purchased most of the functions they gave for free. And at quite the steep prices to boot.

[whiskeyman]

Yes, they opened up a lot of functions when they increased the price of the AMS. Now you just need the hardware that costs arround 1600 euro to have a device that has a little less coverage than Autel for the same price. It is an option for someone that is getting in the market and does older cars.
I am just a bit miffed that they increased the AMS price for us that already had purchased most of the functions they gave for free. And at quite the steep prices to boot.

avdi never did like existing customers
nor did they listen to what we wanted

[ersin]

avdi never did like existing customers
nor did they listen to what we wanted

I wish the Chinese would make a new clone and make a device and program that works smoothly and without any problems.
Original abrites wants a lot of money, she always says give me money :courage:

[rapidlocksmiths]

For new customers buying a basic avdi , the diagnostics and the free key programming coverage they get as standard now makes abrites a very affordable tool , even good value . despite most of this key programming coverage being available on cheaper machines , the diagnotic coverage does set it apart from most of these. regardless of my own thoughts on this , its a very worthwhile addition for anyone.
I guess they have moved with the times and can compete with many of the lower cost machines to the masses.

whats point in buying the outdated clone when they can have more coverage than the clone now .

for thos of us that paid a very high price for this now free coverage its not so good , a 2nd hand avdi used to hold a good resale value , not so today if not kept up to date with latest licences.

love them or loathe them , the basic avdi now represents good value for anyone and is alot of reliable coverage for not alot by abrites standards , until of course they become customers , then going forward you will feel left out by abrites , as has been said , they are only interested in new customers and workshops these days .

so what is not good for long term customers is very good for new customers , easy to see the favoured group .

[cl55]

maybe someone has or can make a CB030 wiring diagram? CB030 - mercedes benz MD1/MG1 connection cable .

[qwojtus]

Second vauxhall Insignia 2013 with abrites, all programmed successfully, key fully working, no errors and immo light stays on.

Remedy: reprogrammed from beginning with china tool and all good.

Is this error only for me?

[mjoesen]

Lift the negative battery cable for 30 sec. and immo light will go of.

[rapidlocksmiths]

this happens alot , its not an issue , disconnect negative cable on battery for 5 seconds then reconnect and the light will be gone . ive done hundreds of these and never had one fail to go off disconnecting for just 5 seconds.

[vageric]

Second vauxhall Insignia 2013 with abrites, all programmed successfully, key fully working, no errors and immo light stays on.

Remedy: reprogrammed from beginning with china tool and all good.

Is this error only for me?

like the 2 others have mention, remove the battery negative and all will be oke.
have encounter this problem also with a chevrolet cruze, what basically a vauxhall/opel is.
i have lock the car and wait approx 30 sec and problem was fixed.

[autoTkey]

Or just use other tool for these cars. It will save you some time.

[rapidlocksmiths]

the times immaterial as takes just a minute , happens sometimes across the range of opel vehiles , astra j and k , mokka , insignia , corsa e , adam zafiera c etc. sometimes light stays on sometimes it doesnt but is never an issue as takes a minute to reset.

theres plenty im unhappy with with abrites , but this isnt one of the issues i have

[TeL200]

Or just drive vehicle and resets after few miles

[Ecuprog31]

Clio 5 akl
where is the hfm module ?
is it the bcm where I plug can wire ?
because when I read it with abrites programmer it never give me pincode
it tell me can’t decode isk or pin

[Ecuprog31]

It’s with card not with key

[davorOS]

HFM is above glove box on EU vehicle

need to remove box

[gttuning]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240917/9e8ad35d8fe53d8a457cd102c4f64eaa.jpgBig statement that
We never sell non working solution.
Who ever posted that might open not so nice discussion ?


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[gttuning]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240917/cac8c9dda00c716f4e14d50e2a58c8ea.jpgAs as customer i just cant pass this unprofessional comment from abrites
First simple example is Ford


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[rapidlocksmiths]

i notice they have deleted this comment on the thread , you would think such feed back from a long term customer would be looked at and learnt from , sadly not the case .

we never sell non working solutions , HMMM let me think

trafic 3 when 1st released bricking uk models , many licences sold well before it was fixed
ford software , again alot of liceneces sold for inderior software
mqb released reliant on obd helper , many licences sold

rather than react to such comments by deleting or ignoring them or deflecting them maybe learning from them and doing something about the issues is what they need to do.

its a premium cost tool as such it should give its users a premium service.

on the whole its a great tool , on some things its exeptional but on others its poor , whats poor should maybe be refunded or fixed , selling an expensive licence then giving it free under a year later is poor form too , surely pleasing the customer is the important thing to keep them investing rather than ignore them , yet issues seem to fall on deaf ears

[gttuning]

i notice they have deleted this comment on the thread , you would think such feed back from a long term customer would be looked at and learnt from , sadly not the case .

we never sell non working solutions , HMMM let me think

trafic 3 when 1st released bricking uk models , many licences sold well before it was fixed
ford software , again alot of liceneces sold for inderior software
mqb released reliant on obd helper , many licences sold

rather than react to such comments by deleting or ignoring them or deflecting them maybe learning from them and doing something about the issues is what they need to do.

its a premium cost tool as such it should give its users a premium service.

on the whole its a great tool , on some things its exeptional but on others its poor , whats poor should maybe be refunded or fixed , selling an expensive licence then giving it free under a year later is poor form too , surely pleasing the customer is the important thing to keep them investing rather than ignore them , yet issues seem to fall on deaf ears

Who ever post that on fb is defo no experience in social media.
This statement they have put out is war starting point with customers that r pro users .
We still love the tool but comedown a bit abrites[emoji12] with statement like that



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[impactops]

its a premium cost tool as such it should give its users a premium service.

Geeez, how the tide has turned, i remember countless arguments with you Rapid claiming it's the best thing since slice bread!!

After several years i see that the debate still rages on, with more unhappy customers, with an over rated over priced piece of shit that doesn't do the features they claim it does out of the box. I gather they still have their operatives on the forum ready to shoot down any negative truths acting as regular users.

At the end of the day gentlemen to add to all your woes, if for what ever reason the encryption keys are erased from the battery backed internal memory of the processor (which is used for banking not automotive) then the device becomes nothing more than very expensive door stop in which abritus are the only ones that could revive it...

at a price of course!

Regards
Impactops

[rapidlocksmiths]

many of us have had to buy a new interface and have software transfered , which is not covered under extended warranty , so yes been there.

dont get me wrong i still think its a great tool on many functions , its still my go to tool on alot of vehicles , but what is poor is poor , some of there decisions infuriate old customers and some of their marketing puff is inacurate .

the same old story , their dislike of old cutomers is still the same , and still issues with some softwares is still unfixed and seemingly ignored.

they seem to be gearing up more to workshops than mobile auto locksmiths , and have an agorance that prevents them listening to their customers .

but i do still rate the tool , just the company itself thats not customer focussed .

[gttuning]

Last update fixed the vag zn59 vdo cluster for service mode.
Works every time now so far.


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[gttuning]

i notice they have deleted this comment on the thread , you would think such feed back from a long term customer would be looked at and learnt from , sadly not the case .

we never sell non working solutions , HMMM let me think

trafic 3 when 1st released bricking uk models , many licences sold well before it was fixed
ford software , again alot of liceneces sold for inderior software
mqb released reliant on obd helper , many licences sold

rather than react to such comments by deleting or ignoring them or deflecting them maybe learning from them and doing something about the issues is what they need to do.

its a premium cost tool as such it should give its users a premium service.

on the whole its a great tool , on some things its exeptional but on others its poor , whats poor should maybe be refunded or fixed , selling an expensive licence then giving it free under a year later is poor form too , surely pleasing the customer is the important thing to keep them investing rather than ignore them , yet issues seem to fall on deaf ears

They have removed it alright.
Also cant repost it.
So i have must be terminated from thier page[emoji23].
If they start this craic. This is going wrong direction


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[gttuning]

Was working on VW polo dcm3.7 1.2tdi
Original ecu damaged
We have got same ecu hw. number but from seat ibiza..so part number for ecu was different
Anyway
Read CS and PIN from ecu by obd ok
Read cluster ok
Edit CS and PIN in new ecu but we have got error at the end that ecu needs to be from same group as cluster.
So Vw cluster and Vw ecu

At this moment we had VW cluster and Seat ecu

As immo wasn't syncro cant flash frf file that should be in it to suit VW cluster

Here we have try by obd to do immo authentication by typing in CS and MAC from doner ecu ..that didnt work

Then we tryed DS box on bench and error
No comm to ecu

So i have conect ecu by obd plug on bench. And SUCCESS

ECU WAS READY FOR FLASHING

Flashed proper FRF file and all went ok after all
Chang CS PIN MAC and all good

Just thought i share this here


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[gttuning]

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[qwojtus]

Any thoughts about Nissan abrites licence if you have all china things like autel.

I never seen people complain about.

[whiskeyman]

Any thoughts about Nissan abrites licence if you have all china things like autel.

I never seen people complain about.

nissan not bad to be fair
but i do wish they would concentrate on ford etc
the stuff that most people see every week
not the odd gearbox clone on a merc or odd ball stuff like that
its real life stuff that most will see from week to week we want

as far as popularity goes just us old die hards thats left to keep the avdi post alive
thats how much interest is in the tool now besides other tools

[lush29]

Nissan has been 100% to me till now

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[gttuning]

Golf JCI D70F3426+95128
Still not added to rh850 programer[emoji2369][emoji2369][emoji2369]
When Alek got little back mor on DK i was thinking abrites is going right direction
Now i have a feeling they r going backwards again
Selling licences and adding very little to them

Like golf 7 with jci ...come on like that should be there long time ago.


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[gttuning]

Abrites states that fbs4 key programming is available ?


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[Fallen]

Abrites states that fbs4 key programming is available ?


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I doubt it, they would be screaming it from the roof tops.
Abritus really need a win and that would be all that could save this tool I think.

[Spiritech]

Abrites states that fbs4 key programming is available ?


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Their solution is swap EZS with a second hand one with keys, virgin modules recode to suit donor EZS. Not really a solution unless rebirthing written off cars in my opinion.

[gttuning]

Their solution is swap EZS with a second hand one with keys, virgin modules recode to suit donor EZS. Not really a solution unless rebirthing written off cars in my opinion.

Then thats not key learning.


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[gttuning]

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[Fallen]

"Program keys for selected models" at least they are getting better with the descriptions when advertising modules.

Previously they would say "FSB4 key programming" and then people would celebrate and buy the module.
Then through trial and error we would find out you could only do 1 car, that had to be built before the second Sunday of the first month but only in a specific factory by a man named Frank.
If anybody else but Frank made the car, it wouldn't work, bad luck, better luck next time.

[rapidlocksmiths]

very true , but it is a solution , not a great one for the money but is still a solution despite not being practical , its a start , but at present no thanks

[gttuning]

"Program keys for selected models" at least they are getting better with the descriptions when advertising modules.

Previously they would say "FSB4 key programming" and then people would celebrate and buy the module.
Then through trial and error we would find out you could only do 1 car, that had to be built before the second Sunday of the first month but only in a specific factory by a man named Frank.
If anybody else but Frank made the car, it wouldn't work, bad luck, better luck next time.

Yes bottom say selected models
So witch Fbs4 model i can program a key?
Answer is Non
Its a bad advertisement to try to catch non experience people.


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[askkey]

Situations like these and other false and missleading advertising is why I said that AVDI needs a coverage list, so that it is clear cut what models they cover for what function (at least officialy) but people here dismissed me with "people expect everything easy peesy regarding coverage etc thankfully some jobs still take intelligence/skill."
Not only could we confidently report functions older vehicles that don't work (like A3 Micronas f.e.) but it would be easier to check what is and what isn't supported when a new function comes out.

Good luck with your intelligence and skill when a new function for a car you never worked on is falsely advertised.

I am assuming that the "selected models" they mention for Mercedes key programming are those which have all the immo related modules supported for virginising which is impossible to know for users right of the bat without a lot and lot of trial and error.

[mjoesen]

Yes Askey, you are right a complite cover list for every job and every variations of modules in a car would be helpful. But this is not a problem that only Avdi have. I would like to say that it is a problem with the most tool I own

[lush29]

Their solution is swap EZS with a second hand one with keys, virgin modules recode to suit donor EZS. Not really a solution unless rebirthing written off cars in my opinion.To swap EZS with a second-hand one with keys, virgin and recode modules won't work , you need much more a lot more than that.
Just swap EIS and virgin modules with recode that will be a dream come true

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[Matronix]

Doing a lot of stuff with my Abrites set ad it is quite advanced an pushing in area's where other tools do'nt , but also lacking stuff where others lay ground for solutions - it's a mix of tools that keeps you ahead of the rest.

However - still got a few basic things that I came across that suprised me - might be user error, sure, but still..

1. fiat tipo 2015, MQB key, I could not get it to be added and it just gave a 'failed' when creating a transponder. Tip for Abrites, tell WHY - since later on when using OBD Start it told me "wrong transponder" - turned out the ceramic transponders won't do, the electric ones work fine.
2 BMW M8 2023 - still F-series - starts the process just fine but then fails. Why did it not check any software nr or hardware nr and stopped right away? Went along in saving net coding and started further proces... car ended up with errors in ALL modules. Turned out the transport mode was activated and just recovering that status was enough to fix it but later on Abrites Support says 'we do not support this one' , which is fine, but software wise it could be a bit safer.
3. Had 2 times over a 2018+ Range Rover and tried the key function with their TA special keys (TA66?) - correct procedure, correct freq. all ok but no luck... I can start the car by emergency start.. that's it - no remote functions and certainly no keyless start. The last one could be UWB emu needed but if remotes don't work, it seems useless to start in that direction. Abrites just responds with 'battery should be from ori key' (did, no change), etc. but no real help - they do have the logs and I would love to know how to fix this help on it is lacking. Also the key made on the first car now could not be reset so one TA key gone for nothing (was nog made on same computer the software says... yes it was!) - Lonsdor did a key fine , also no remote start but at least have FOB working.

Not to try and rant about issues , but there software is nog as 100% solid as they sometimes try to give us to believe. Not a suprise, but show stoppers like JLR 2018+ should be solvable?

[gttuning]

Protag still cant make dealer key on golf 7
Tells me to reposition transponder.
No matter where you put it wont work
So i use Autel for this
Why not fix this issue i dont know


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[habbyb]

Protag still cant make dealer key on golf 7
Tells me to reposition transponder.
No matter where you put it wont work
So i use Autel for this
Why not fix this issue i dont know


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hello mate , I did recently golf 7 but i used oem key , if you used after market it is possible avdi not to recognize after market or vvdi key , this is the only explanation or big bugs

[cl55]

I think that a file should be created and attached to this topic, in which it would be possible to fill in or search for working functions (in key programming or addition) one after the other or with the help of a search, and to fill that file constantly, and write down - if the function does not work - what device managed to do it ... because the topic will be 300 pages and there is no neatly sorted information.

[Matronix]

Protag still cant make dealer key on golf 7
Tells me to reposition transponder.
No matter where you put it wont work
So i use Autel for this
Why not fix this issue i dont know


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are you using the old or the new style protag - bmw same issue, new protag could not recognise BMW key in an add key situation (E series slot key) - old programmer no issue

[gttuning]

hello mate , I did recently golf 7 but i used oem key , if you used after market it is possible avdi not to recognize after market or vvdi key , this is the only explanation or big bugs

Yes aftermarket keys.


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[alkaskad]

I've managed to make dealer key and add VVDI MQB key using Abrites.
I had some afetermarket keys and neither of them was accepted by Abrites.

[qwojtus]

Golf JCI D70F3426+95128
Still not added to rh850 programer[emoji2369][emoji2369][emoji2369]
When Alek got little back mor on DK i was thinking abrites is going right direction
Now i have a feeling they r going backwards again
Selling licences and adding very little to them

Like golf 7 with jci ...come on like that should be there long time ago.


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Now JC 3426+external epprom available. Looks like they have read your post. Better late than never..

Vehicle Diagnostics Software and Hardware - Abrites Worldwide (https://abrites.com/news/key-programming-dashboard-exchange-and-calibration-for-jci-mqb-2012-2014-with-external-eeprom-made-easy?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=vag-jsi&fbclid=IwY2xjawFqDYtleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHU1FSF11psr94 cCFpYcX8EMzZVK4BzK2Shf-HeCcG27aY-sjPPqZGZR2pg_aem_J1Xg9cLpXrkij7bVhx_vmg)

[habbyb]

Now JC 3426+external epprom available. Looks like they have read your post. Better late than never..

Vehicle Diagnostics Software and Hardware - Abrites Worldwide (https://abrites.com/news/key-programming-dashboard-exchange-and-calibration-for-jci-mqb-2012-2014-with-external-eeprom-made-easy?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=vag-jsi&fbclid=IwY2xjawFqDYtleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHU1FSF11psr94 cCFpYcX8EMzZVK4BzK2Shf-HeCcG27aY-sjPPqZGZR2pg_aem_J1Xg9cLpXrkij7bVhx_vmg)

it's like we don't know it's always with money and after two months it is a free license for all device in all the world , succes .

[skinsh]

Hi all. Today updated latest update. Audi offline works but online tgrows window ERROR INITIALIZING THE WINDOW STSTEM
Bmw online same.

[RG550]

Same SH..T is with my interface after update, i will try to back software from July and test if online works...i am wait 4 jobs for online....

[habbyb]

Hi all. Today updated latest update. Audi offline works but online tgrows window ERROR INITIALIZING THE WINDOW STSTEM
Bmw online same.

yes same problem

[RG550]

Same SH..T is with my interface after update, i will try to back software from July and test if online works...i am wait 4 jobs for online....

Update : Installation files form July for my id, online is working but offline dont work, latst instalation files for my id offline works but online dont work...i finish jobs with July update and online works...

[skinsh]

On second laptop i didnt update, online is working, but offline says need to update to latest software...

[habbyb]

nothing works for me , it takes time for abrites team it is a serious problem for them we should have received the solution by now

[autoTkey]

I have the same problem (OFFline works, ONline NOT work) with the last AVDI update but I use Win 7 and Win 10 both on 32 bit. On Win 10 64 bit there are no problems!
What do you use?

[pepi]

I had the same issue ,today with TeamViewer support helped me to solve this problem ,
I think problem was at drivers . Now PC with win 10 is ok the other one with Win7 still not working.

[TeL200]

I believe the problem lies with Window's Visual Basics on the device and not an Abrites issue

[autoTkey]

Obviously not since it works as should on Win10 64bit but not on W10 32bit.
Drivers are not the issue too.
Find a 64bit OS and install on it - it will work.

[rapidlocksmiths]

i had same issue , my offline was working but online wasnt , i contacted my distributor kap diagnostics who quickly sent me links to download new windows visual x86 and x64 updates to load and then reloaded my october update and all working fine , your dealer should be able to do same for you

[autoTkey]

If it is Visual Basic version issue just share the links here on the forum. No need to contact any dealers and distributors.

[skinsh]

Uninstalled the whole program and reinstalled everything and everything works for me. win10 64bit

[gttuning]

Same here.
Have issue with online.
Whats the solution ?


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[gttuning]

You would think they put up some statement about it.


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[autoTkey]

If you have latest WIN10/11 with 64 bit it works like a charm. The older OSes seems to get left behind. Maybe not fully this time but soon their support will die.

[gttuning]

So win7 not supported anymore.
Support says

Anyone managed to get it to work on win7 64bit ?
Thanks


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[Spiritech]

Why are you still using Windows 7? It's a 15 year old platform this year or maybe next, haven't checked. It will not get security updates and hence PC based diagnostics platforms will stop supporting it. Update to a newer OS, there is no reason to expect any software supplier especially one expecting a somewhat secure platform to support an ancient version of your OS because you've refused to upgrade for over a decade. I'm often really hard on Abrites for their bullshit but this is just common sense, upgrade your OS it's good for you.

Edit: If it's because you don't like the new UIs it is possible to modify the menus to be more Windows 7/8/10 like in Windows 11, plenty of available modifications on the internet. I really dislike a lot of the Win11 UI but I make do with it, the 2-3 times a year I actually need to drill down into a proper settings menu is irritating but easily managed.

[gttuning]

Updated on win10 64bit and have same similar issue just different error

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[rapidlocksmiths]

try deleting avdi software , and reloading it , i had this one

if no joy , load the vc files again to your pc , delete software and reload the avdi software again , worked for me.

[autoTkey]

Don't forget to run Windows Update until it says no updates are pending. Low RAM quantity or old computer hardware can also be the reason (most probably the first).
And download/install both x86 and x64 bit versions of Visual C redistributable: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#visual-studio-2015-2017-2019-and-2022
Let me know how it went.

[pepi]

I am using win10 x32 , when support fixed this problem I sow they have deleted old USB drivers and downloaded new ones .
Now every think woks ok.

[autoTkey]

That didn't help in my case. I guess the RAM is the issue that's left to be checked.

[gttuning]

Support fixed it today.
Something to do with usb driver.


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[gttuning]

Just want to share todays experience .
Working on passat B8
Cluster 3g0920941A D70F3529

Remove 8 components
Solder my wiring
Connection test ok
Executing unlock sequence reach 2000/2000
Reading fail

Contact support
Replayed with in 30min
Send them few screen shots of wiring etc

After small discussion issue will be sent to developer on Monday
Case is on hold

We have also record exact time of reading the cluster so developer can see exactly what went wrong on this job.

Solder back 8 components to see if cluster not dead but all looks ok

Quite happy with response from support and i hope that Monday something can be solved to improve the tool.

Hope i didn't waste my time.
I dont mind myself to spent a bit of time to help out developer to fix this issue and improve the tool for others






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[autoTkey]

Very sensitive work. YOU need to be very very VERY professional with the soldering work on these boards. Use your best lighting, best glasses and microscope, use the best flux and soldering paste, new soldering iron tip and use tape to fix all the cables securely so the don't move accidentally. These chips are very sensitive and it is very hard to correctly connect them in a usual locksmith environment.
Another thing you need to know is you may need more than one attempt to make a successful read.
It may take 3-4 consequential attempts before AVDI breaks in, so make sure to free your schedule.

Other useful tip is you don't need to solder all the CAPs back to test if it works. It will work without them too but only for test. When finalizing your work, of course you need to return them in the right place. Though, I personally prefer to solder everything back in it's place before making tests but you can try it with a scrap dash you bought to learn. And it is important to know that every time you decide to test the board it has to be fully assembled in it's plastic casing, otherwise there will be a permanent error recorded inside which can't be cleared. It will work as there is nothing and it will not show on the dash but the error will stay forever when you run diagnostics. Actually AVDI should be able to clear it while writing back the new data in the dash but it does not work on all boards, surely doesn't help on those with crypto core.
And the worst part - if the dash dies you better don't replace it with a scrapyard board or it will kill the entire car. Only brand new dealer dash will work!

[gttuning]

Very sensitive work. YOU need to be very very VERY professional with the soldering work on these boards. Use your best lighting, best glasses and microscope, use the best flux and soldering paste, new soldering iron tip and use tape to fix all the cables securely so the don't move accidentally. These chips are very sensitive and it is very hard to correctly connect them in a usual locksmith environment.
Another thing you need to know is you may need more than one attempt to make a successful read.
It may take 3-4 consequential attempts before AVDI breaks in, so make sure to free your schedule.

Other useful tip is you don't need to solder all the CAPs back to test if it works. It will work without them too but only for test. When finalizing your work, of course you need to return them in the right place. Though, I personally prefer to solder everything back in it's place before making tests but you can try it with a scrap dash you bought to learn. And it is important to know that every time you decide to test the board it has to be fully assembled in it's plastic casing, otherwise there will be a permanent error recorded inside which can't be cleared. It will work as there is nothing and it will not show on the dash but the error will stay forever when you run diagnostics. Actually AVDI should be able to clear it while writing back the new data in the dash but it does not work on all boards, surely doesn't help on those with crypto core.
And the worst part - if the dash dies you better don't replace it with a scrapyard board or it will kill the entire car. Only brand new dealer dash will work!

Thanks for input.
In this case i sure avdi has some issue.
This is simple dash
Remove 8 components and soldering pads r big size to solder wires on.


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[gttuning]

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[autoTkey]

The brown and gray couple is most critical. It is important to not change it in any way (length or diameter).
These cables are quite thick and hard and can cause big problems.

[gttuning]

The brown and gray couple is most critical. It is important to not change it in any way (length or diameter).
These cables are quite thick and hard and can cause big problems.

Yes i have them soldered well.
They or in original shape from new.


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[gttuning]

Todays experience on skoda vdo mqb
Guy bought car with no key on auction

Some other locksmith order key from skoda dealer and said it failed to learn key with odis.

So car come here to me to see if we can program this key.

Strip the cluster
Remove 8 components of the board and solder my wires
1st attempt
Connection test ok
Read mcu fail security sequence reach 2000/2000
I didnt wait 5min like tool will tell you. Went straight to 2nd attempt

2nd attempt all went ok
Upload to server etc ok
Displayed immo data ok

Put all back together and went to learn key with CS
All went ok car starts all looks ok
Job done.
Also i had this message on yellow strip
So i hit write mcu anyway.
All finished ok.
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[habbyb]

Todays experience on skoda vdo mqb
Guy bought car with no key on auction

Some other locksmith order key from skoda dealer and said it failed to learn key with odis.

So car come here to me to see if we can program this key.

Strip the cluster
Remove 8 components of the board and solder my wires
1st attempt
Connection test ok
Read mcu fail security sequence reach 2000/2000
I didnt wait 5min like tool will tell you. Went straight to 2nd attempt

2nd attempt all went ok
Upload to server etc ok
Displayed immo data ok

Put all back together and went to learn key with CS
All went ok car starts all looks ok
Job done.
Also i had this message on yellow strip
So i hit write mcu anyway.
All finished ok.
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Hello mate , only cs from dash it is enough ???? I mean without cs from ecu and tcu if it is automatic , anyway the car is akl situation .

[gttuning]

Hello mate , only cs from dash it is enough ???? I mean without cs from ecu and tcu if it is automatic , anyway the car is akl situation .

Yes its akl
But key was bought in dealer so its a dealer key already.
For this you only need CS from dash to learn key.


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[pepi]

Yes since he have key from Skoda dealer and there is sync on it.

[nazz2]

My Avdi on line problem was solved by uninstalling and installing avdi, but without running the pass tro drivers, none of the above methodes work for me win 10,64 bit.

[gttuning]

Just want to share todays experience .
Working on passat B8
Cluster 3g0920941A D70F3529

Remove 8 components
Solder my wiring
Connection test ok
Executing unlock sequence reach 2000/2000
Reading fail

Contact support
Replayed with in 30min
Send them few screen shots of wiring etc

After small discussion issue will be sent to developer on Monday
Case is on hold

We have also record exact time of reading the cluster so developer can see exactly what went wrong on this job.

Solder back 8 components to see if cluster not dead but all looks ok

Quite happy with response from support and i hope that Monday something can be solved to improve the tool.

Hope i didn't waste my time.
I dont mind myself to spent a bit of time to help out developer to fix this issue and improve the tool for others






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Update on this cluster here

Support is asking about pic of resistors removed etc. so sent them on today they have forward to developers.

But as we know we cant keep cars for ages.

So i give it a go again as someone mention above that it needs few attempts to unlock security. So i thought send it and see what happens. Not a wise move but we have learn the hard ways to do all this things.

So it took 7 straight in the row attempts to read and it unlocked at 8th attempt

Read data ok
Modify data ok
Write mcu ok

Cluster back in car and all works ok

So despite warnings from software that multiple attempt of reading might damaged the cluster in this case all was ok

So for future guys dont be afraid of reading the cluster several times

Hope with the logs avdi can improve unlock sequence better in future.
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[gttuning]

Yes since he have key from Skoda dealer and there is sync on it.

Yes


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[autoTkey]

This is a brave move :)
There's always a risk. In case with these cars it could set you back a serious amount and waiting time for your client. I wouldn't do so many attempts unless confirmed by Abrites support.
I don't know exactly what could get damaged when reading many times in a row but if there's a warning probably it isn't to make the developers laugh. I was told 3-4 attempts should be safe and wouldn't risk it with more.

[gttuning]

This is a brave move :)
There's always a risk. In case with these cars it could set you back a serious amount and waiting time for your client. I wouldn't do so many attempts unless confirmed by Abrites support.
I don't know exactly what could get damaged when reading many times in a row but if there's a warning probably it isn't to make the developers laugh. I was told 3-4 attempts should be safe and wouldn't risk it with more.

Yes. I know it was not a wise move.
But i had to try it🫣 to see whats gona happen
I also try to heat mcu a bit like 5M48H but made no difference .

Dont think many tools support this typ of clock
For example Dp4 dont have it on their list.


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[Fallen]

Abritus Hyundai/KIA PIN code reading, zero updates for 2 and a half years.
Smart PRO is the clear winner here and with the cost of PIN codes from the dealer, it's worth buying one just for that.

JLR key programming. I couldn't be bothered looking it up but it must be 4 years since that has been updated.
They still have the butcher option of cutting KVM wirers and soldering in bypass modules.
People who have full JLR license are buying new 10K tools just to solve the JLR problem as they are getting left behind.

Ford - Flaccid. The only word I can think of to describe it.

What do you think happens?
Do Abritus stop paying the developers who create the original software so there are no new updates and any new developers do not know how the old software worked?

[rapidlocksmiths]

i do agree , but now ford and most of jlr are free functions with a basic avdi , i cant see them spending time and money on improving these , its only those of us that paid a price for this software that have been upset , to others its just a free function. so im not holding breath that any now free functions will get time spent on fixes .

smart pro had fallen way behind , but in recent times has upped there game alot and going in some cases beyond avdi coverage.

vvdi many consider better now on vag on alot of coverage

i notice AlekN no longer comes here .

i have to admit despite still using avdi daily , im buying more from elsewhere at present , its still great on psa , fiat , vauxhall and renault , but others are catching up , avdi advantages do seem shorter lived than in the past .

[gttuning]

Alek said that they r working on ford as new software all together.
That must of went sideways as that was nearly two years ago if not more

Miro at diagcode is pushing fbs4 new function i think its worth to keep eye on it

They might come with some cool updates in future


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[rapidlocksmiths]

miro has been releasing some good updates on his kit , i have his extreme mb tool and its excellent kit , definitely one worth watching .

[pepi]

Are you talking about Miro who was part of Abrites team , what tool has he released.

[profi]

1051411Hi everyone

I last 2 times in a row when programing Clio IV cards in Online sotfware on last step AVDI shows: "Error storing learning result! "( see picture ) but everything is fine with programned keys everything works (maybe bug in software)

[Matronix]

anybody ever got the em015 emulator for uwb landrover to work ? Got a 2022 Sport II L494 and after several hours of work (first finding the darn KVM/RFA) I remade the key, programmed the config file after format... no go... did the update and wrote the file, no go. If connecting it to 1 wire of the kvm uwb wires (wire side, not kvm side) it is not giving any action whatsoever , on the other wire the light turns greens on the emulator but still no keyless start... might be the car... but so far I had very VERY little luck in using the landrover 2018+ keys and system of Abrites...

[rapidlocksmiths]

Are you talking about Miro who was part of Abrites team , what tool has he released.

yes , miro has diagcode , mb extreme tool , simply diagnostics and a number of tools , his site is https://www.diagcode.com/

[gttuning]

Are you talking about Miro who was part of Abrites team , what tool has he released.

Yes.
Diagcode


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[Spiritech]

anybody ever got the em015 emulator for uwb landrover to work ? Got a 2022 Sport II L494 and after several hours of work (first finding the darn KVM/RFA) I remade the key, programmed the config file after format... no go... did the update and wrote the file, no go. If connecting it to 1 wire of the kvm uwb wires (wire side, not kvm side) it is not giving any action whatsoever , on the other wire the light turns greens on the emulator but still no keyless start... might be the car... but so far I had very VERY little luck in using the landrover 2018+ keys and system of Abrites...


Never got one working properly, gave up on the solution and bought into another tool instead. Plus no owner liked the idea of some little PCB connected to their expensive car.

The emulator appears to only support some RFAs and then only some firmwares. The emulator update and personalisation procedure is also really poorly engineered, they could have built that into the software rather than having us upload a bootloader then a new software, then you can personalise it.

There are better solutions out there.

[lush29]

anybody ever got the em015 emulator for uwb landrover to work ? Got a 2022 Sport II L494 and after several hours of work (first finding the darn KVM/RFA) I remade the key, programmed the config file after format... no go... did the update and wrote the file, no go. If connecting it to 1 wire of the kvm uwb wires (wire side, not kvm side) it is not giving any action whatsoever , on the other wire the light turns greens on the emulator but still no keyless start... might be the car... but so far I had very VERY little luck in using the landrover 2018+ keys and system of Abrites...I did 3 of them 2020-2021 and remote was working only from very close range

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[MACAN]

Hello everyone
Having an BMW 335d 2007 cas+ istap crypted , A/T
cas downgraded without problem with autel I first tried with avdi (cas3 is normally part of the basic package) but it asks me to buy another license (BN012) Then I imagine that it's the same problem as the x5s of the same year l.ecu edc16 only gives the short ISN, so should we also look for it in the egs?


regarding l, avdi I wanted to know if I took the BN012 license I could read the isn of the egs?
I don't plan to buy Autohex just for this job ��

[qwojtus]

Hello everyone
Having an BMW 335d 2007 cas+ istap crypted , A/T
cas downgraded without problem with autel I first tried with avdi (cas3 is normally part of the basic package) but it asks me to buy another license (BN012) Then I imagine that it's the same problem as the x5s of the same year l.ecu edc16 only gives the short ISN, so should we also look for it in the egs?


regarding l, avdi I wanted to know if I took the BN012 license I could read the isn of the egs?
I don't plan to buy Autohex just for this job ��

This car has no ISN in the gearbox.

Im not sure if Abrites can support AKL on those short ISN, unless it is spare key - than it does.

[MACAN]

This car has no ISN in the gearbox.

Im not sure if Abrites can support AKL on those short ISN, unless it is spare key - than it does.

Thank you for the info, I tried to read the ISN EGS With Autel but even he told me that there is nothing to READ. I don't even think that it is not possible to make the key with this SHORT ISN.if anyone has an idea..

[mjoesen]

Send a mail to Abrites supprt, the usualy answer the same day.

[qwojtus]

Thank you for the info, I tried to read the ISN EGS With Autel but even he told me that there is nothing to READ. I don't even think that it is not possible to make the key with this SHORT ISN.if anyone has an idea..

Only Autohex or Bmw Explorer from the tools I have can make it on those. Any china never worked for me.

You can also post your CAS eeprom in Immo section on this forum and ask to generate key. Some guys will help you.

[solitaire]

where is bmw offline user manual? why is removed from abrites web?

[tagirdn]

Hello everyone
Having an BMW 335d 2007 cas+ istap crypted , A/T
cas downgraded without problem with autel I first tried with avdi (cas3 is normally part of the basic package) but it asks me to buy another license (BN012) Then I imagine that it's the same problem as the x5s of the same year l.ecu edc16 only gives the short ISN, so should we also look for it in the egs?


regarding l, avdi I wanted to know if I took the BN012 license I could read the isn of the egs?
I don't plan to buy Autohex just for this job ��

I made such a car abrites.
2007.
Short isn.
Made online.
But i have BN012

[MACAN]

so this is good news, I will buy bn012

[alkaskad]

Doe anyone have problems with Abrites server?

[rapidlocksmiths]

there was issues last weekend with avdi server , when connecting you then move on to select model and it loses connection with server so cant proceed , they supposedly fixed this on monday 21st when back in office .

[gttuning]

Caddy edc16u1
Exchange ecu be obd.

Read immo data ok CS..PIN vin
Type in immo in top part as existing data

But bottom part to replace immo data is grey out so you cant change cs pin vin to learn seconhand ecu.

Also it reads eeprom by obd ..displays Cs PIN but write button option is greyed out..

Checked security lock out time and its 0 so it should work.

So took vcds and learn it that way.


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[ttzag]

hello guys
any one have a ZN046 - Key Renewal Adapter schematic please ?

[racer0324]

hello guys
any one have a ZN046 - Key Renewal Adapter schematic please ?

Do you need a connection diagram for a particular key or an actual schematic of the adapter?

[pepi]

hello guys
any one have a ZN046 - Key Renewal Adapter schematic please ?

Here is the pic

[whiskeyman]

still no joy from avdi on newer fords yet?
still fixated with gearboxes for mercs i see

[Fallen]

still no joy from avdi on newer fords yet?
still fixated with gearboxes for mercs i see

Don't forget milage correction on Hyundai also.
The staple of many user i'm sure.

[offsystem]

is avdi now safe to downgrade cas3+ to lower version ?

[rapidlocksmiths]

abrites say yes , they did video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXuMxC6pv74

whether you trust this or not is a personal choice of course

[davorOS]

on 2 out of 15 I had to remove CAS as go to boot mode and need programer to finish
on both battery OK and on extra power so no issue with that



is avdi now safe to downgrade cas3+ to lower version ?

[Spiritech]

Yep, every so often you lose the lottery and have to pull the CAS module to fix it then make keys. 0M23S based CAS modules seem to me at least the most susceptible to a failure of OBD flashing but that should be taken as anecdotal.

I just quote high enough for removing the CAS module every time, if I lose a job or two it's no big deal. I'm usually booked out a week in advance anyway.

[davorOS]

Yes and in my case both had beed on cooper not BMW

why is CAS in that place only they know

[Spiritech]

0M23S most common on Mini & 1 Series in my experience. They're the same cars from a CAS perspective, just different physical layout. The ones I've had go wrong were 1 Series vehicles primarily.

I have a Mini spare to do on Monday, hopefully luck is on my side next week.

[askkey]

abrites say yes , they did video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXuMxC6pv74

whether you trust this or not is a personal choice of course


I think it is important to note that they disonnected the interface to simulate the connection dropping out at the step where the software was downloading the second part of the flash and not during the programming (writing) of the flash.
So it had the 2 parts completely intact when they have done the repair.
I believe that if the connection drops out during the writing process it is much more dificult to repair because you have a partially written file in the moduel. Depending on where the writing fails it could be very well possible to brick a module.

I had a bad experience with a Series 1 (albeit some time ago) where I downgraded the CAS module with AVDI and the process finished completely but the module stayed off. There was no way to revive it as it was not accapting a flash even when an attempt to write it via bench was made. So just reading a working module via bench and using it to write a key is always the safer option no matter what AVDI claims.

[alkaskad]

Just made an experiment with cas3+... Made a backup with programmer and started downgrade on bech using BMW Online software... It just runs in circles: it shows that process is complete, but when you choose ews manager, it takes you again at downgrade section... When you try to reflash, it starts,but fails.
BUT when you use BMW Offline software to downgrade everything is ok... I've tried to point that to support, but I think no one listens...

[rapidlocksmiths]

not listening to there customers , not rectifying issues raised , and their inability to accept genuine constructive critisism is their biggest downfall , add this to there disregard for existing customers and there reluctance to deal with complaints and it paints a bad picture , but they do like praise and money.

[didi_du_93000]

Me too.
Make me shit on cas3++ ista.

Now car don't start anymore.
When I make I'd with other tool. I see it's always ista version and not downgrade.

Now I need to remove cas from dashboard. Pay more than 4000euros sfor shit software. Never take anymore BMW from abrités.

[Weasel3]

A couple of years ago.
I had a AKL 730 BMW - CAS4+ secured version 2013.
Tried with AutelIM6 - HorsePad - X431 ver7.
All failed gave me the wrong info and no start.

The only tool which saved the day.
Fixed it all and started the car - Keyless and remote OK etc
Was Online BMW versjon from this manufakturer.
I bought the license for this car.
I and was very satisfied, when it sorted the problem.
About 10 minutes, back and forward programming.
With a good battery charger connected to the car.

Lishi in the door lock, cut blade.
And it turned out well.

[gttuning]

Guys about CAS in BMW car.
Just take it out read with smok or something else as buckup it takes 30min more and if shit hits the fan you have a buck up. Car can be fixed in 15min.

I have this rule. No mater what tool i use on CAS
I take it out read with smok and put it back to car and do my work.


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[ttzag]

Guys about CAS in BMW car.
Just take it out read with smok or something else as buckup it takes 30min more and if shit hits the fan you have a buck up. Car can be fixed in 15min.

I have this rule. No mater what tool i use on CAS
I take it out read with smok and put it back to car and do my work.


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Same here .
I have bmw Explorer original and always takeoff cas to save a backup

[didi_du_93000]

But to remove cas from mini need many time

Not "15 minutes job".

[gttuning]

Today 2011 seat ibiza. Akl
Cluster vdo
Zn059 fail -- cable found but cant put cluster to service mode.
Had to take eprom out and do it old way.


Also cant scan ABS same as polo.


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[jodge]

guys do you have feedback about the Ford PATS init (2014+) function? It's dumpster fire like the other ford parts?

[helper786]

just a quick question. has anyone had issues after added a key to an Audi a4 2009 with avdi through obd? car is not cranking after adding a key. did see a strange behaviour with avdi as it was finishing learning keyss - it said 90 keys learnt

any suggestions appreciate it. not had a chance to go back yet just looking for suggestions.