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[gttuning]

Hi all..
2007 c class petrol.
Have a car that come as not starting ...checked drive authorization and ecu looks like not personalized...so got direct conection to it and try to personalize with ezs data but have error ezs rejecting....
Any one seen befor.?
Thankshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180227/e6cbb55ee146281c5c75cc587e0dec46.jpg

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[Gavra]

You can't personalize ECU with EZS data....you must have old read saved or use DAS......

[purplecty]

You can't personalize ECU with EZS data....you must have old read saved or use DAS......So in this case only DAS can resolve this no start issue?

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[gttuning]

You can't personalize ECU with EZS data....you must have old read saved or use DAS......So what is the solution for this.?

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[Gavra]

use DAS.......and if someone didn't know what they doing maybe you will need to program ECU before drive authorization can be activated.........that job is meant for pure professionals not for local garage with no knowledge, so charge them good ......

[gttuning]

use DAS.......and if someone didn't know what they doing maybe you will need to program ECU before drive authorization can be activated.........that job is meant for pure professionals not for local garage with no knowledge, so charge them good ......So far i know...this car got flat battery...and ecu got blank...
I dont think some one was at it befor me...


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[isma123]

LICENT ti grava he's giving you the unique solution , also when you personilise with avdi do you take key off from ignition,?

[gttuning]

LICENT ti grava he's giving you the unique solution , also when you personilise with avdi do you take key off from ignition,?I will have more time hope next week for this..just have to get familiar with vediamo and DAS..not big in to mercedes as not many around me and dont work on issuse like that daily...
But thanks all for info.

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[wintesla]

I will have more time hope next week for this..just have to get familiar with vediamo and DAS..not big in to mercedes as not many around me and dont work on issuse like that daily...
But thanks all for info.

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99% ecu is not ok
Must be or repair or replace.
Open and make hot with hot air and conect to car.
Is very rare for mb to erase ecu on flat batery.
But you can try unlock with avdi and adapt to ezs.
You can personilaze and activate with avdi.Not need DAS.

[Gavra]

Repairs with hot air are for beginners who think fault is always dry solder ;) AVDI cannot transfer data if ECU TP is not removed ,as AVDI employee you should know that .....

[yugo45]

AVDI team:
What is the plans for new 2013 and up VAG Simos 12, 16, 18 , any future plans to be able to read in boot mode and get immobilizer data for it ?

[Rito]

Mercedes Vito early model (W639) with 908 MCU, avdi after 90 minutes still cannot pull pass out from EIS using fuse relay and DS Box (tested on 2 cars).
Send mail to support, Alek reply to me that is impossible and to send my SN from AVDI to check, then no more reply. End of story.
Still have to pull that EIS to read (a pain in the a*s)

It work if you remove EZS and use MV210 and 203 cable....
It take about 20min for me...

[wintesla]

Repairs with hot air are for beginners who think fault is always dry solder ;) AVDI cannot transfer data if ECU TP is not removed ,as AVDI employee you should know that .....

As avdi employ i say not need any data to adapt this ecu to car when make virgin.

I not say to.repair with hot air, i say is posiblle to chek is ecu problem with hot air

[gttuning]

As avdi employ i say not need any data to adapt this ecu to car when make virgin.

I not say to.repair with hot air, i say is posiblle to chek is ecu problem with hot airHi man i didnt get time uet to look at this more but why avdi wont transfer data from ezs?

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[accchris]

2010 VW Passat 36 EDC17C46 ECU when using AVDI (Genuine Tool & Licence) to do immo delete i have Immobiliser Active Message in Cluster.
Is there a fix for this?

[joemajdalani]

You done off via eeprom or flash ? do via eeprom

[wintesla]

Hi man i didnt get time uet to look at this more but why avdi wont transfer data from ezs?

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99% ecu is not ok.
Enter in diagnostic and post screen shot with identification of ecu and errors.

[Gavra]

Just to make you angry and show whole world how little you know I will code that ECU for him for free.......... Please mark it ,and send it, all you have to pay is postage........Let's bring this to new level.......

[gttuning]

99% ecu is not ok.
Enter in diagnostic and post screen shot with identification of ecu and errors.No erros in ecu..just drive authorization is NO NO NO NO.
I get it going shrtly and i let yous know...step by step procedure..just busy here with other things...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180302/9ea07274e438e08e3c109e678b6017b0.jpg

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[obdsystems]

2010 VW Passat 36 EDC17C46 ECU when using AVDI (Genuine Tool & Licence) to do immo delete i have Immobiliser Active Message in Cluster.
Is there a fix for this?



why not do a key. You are asking for trouble doing immo off

[accchris]

Original ECU is water damaged and Unreadable. Replacement ECU will not Code with ODIS and GEKO for some reason. Immo Off works but displays error Messages

Person i bough replacement ECU off will not take it back. I have various Genuine Toolls which should do this but nothing seems to Work correctly.

I'm convinced now there is a fault with the ECU i have. I managed to code another one in OK with ODIS but it is not the correct ECU for the Car.

Another one on its way, just wanted to understand why the Immo Off solution not working.

[accchris]

Transpires after speaking to the person i bought it off they had previously cloned the ECU.

Hence all the problems trying to code with ODIS and all the Immo Off Solutions throwing up faults :banghead::banghead::banghead:

[turboracing]

I have MQB keylearning active but what transponder do i need normal id48 canbus ?

[topclef]

I have MQB keylearning active but what transponder do i need normal id48 canbus ?

no , you have to use new transponder ID48-Extended , or Original remote keys .

[offsystem]

no , you have to use new transponder ID48-Extended , or Original remote keys .Can you recommend a shop where i can get id 48 extended?

[norman1967]

Transpires after speaking to the person i bought it off they had previously cloned the ECU.

Hence all the problems trying to code with ODIS and all the Immo Off Solutions throwing up faults :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Maybe you could try dtc remove faults relating to immo. I did this with a edc17cp14 I did immo off had same issue as you car started with immobiler active on dash

[topclef]

Can you recommend a shop where i can get id 48 extended?

I'm looking for them too , for the moment i use remote control keys .

[oficialusis]

no , you have to use new transponder ID48-Extended , or Original remote keys .It's not ID48, it is ID88 or MEGAMOS EAS.
But be aware, even tango recognize this transponder wrong as ID48!
Just JMA I think and pro tag currently identifies it correctly.

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[topclef]

[QUOTE=oficialusis;3230002]It's not ID48, it is ID88 or MEGAMOS EAS.
But be aware, even tango recognize this transponder wrong as ID48!
Just JMA I think and pro tag currently identifies it correctly.

my Mistake , it is Megamos-Extended :peaceful:

[ps80l]

Anyone else disappointed with the latest updates?

[Fallen]

Thank you for the feedback. We will try to add an automatic insertion and release it with the next VAG software build in order to avoid mistyping errors.

"- PIN & CS are now stored after reading and entered automatically in Adaptation and Key Learning menus when required "

BAM! Keep this up and we all might start sending you x-mas cards this year!

[norman1967]

Just updated to the latest avdi common ECT. March 2018. And still cannot get the online cloud software to load

Surley this cannot only be me?
It would be handy to have this working for the diagnostic improvements...

[gttuning]

Just updated to the latest avdi common ECT. March 2018. And still cannot get the online cloud software to load

Surley this cannot only be me?
It would be handy to have this working for the diagnostic improvements...I was using bmw cloud today.all ok.

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[gttuning]

Anyone else disappointed with the latest updates?Why?

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[rapidlocksmiths]

i thought the last few updates were good , some welcome additions and listening to feedback on vag as well , the years started well .

[Fallen]

BMW online for key programming is getting better but I find myself constantly switching back and forth between BMW offline and BMW online to perform different functions, mainly in CAS.
Offline BMW is much better and faster at addressing module, reading and clearing fault codes and synch DME/CAS/EVL.

BMW online often fails to synch CAS/DME/ELV.

[norman1967]

I was using bmw cloud today.all ok.

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Can I ask what operating system your using?

[gttuning]

Can I ask what operating system your using?Windows 7

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[gttuning]

BMW online for key programming is getting better but I find myself constantly switching back and forth between BMW offline and BMW online to perform different functions, mainly in CAS.
Offline BMW is much better and faster at addressing module, reading and clearing fault codes and synch DME/CAS/EVL.

BMW online often fails to synch CAS/DME/ELV.I syncro e60 yesturday all went good.

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[rapidlocksmiths]

used my bmw cloud today all working fine on my windows 7 toughbook and is ok on windows 10 tablet

[purplecty]

used my bmw cloud today all working fine on my windows 7 toughbook and is ok on windows 10 tabletWhere do you get the latest software from?

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[norman1967]

Where do you get the latest software from?

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Whoever you bought your ams threw

[carlab237]

Hi,
M'y avdi software can t communicate with the hardware. Uable to install the port. Started when my avdi hardware was connected to a fvdi software. Didn't communicate and when it was relunch with it avdi software refuse to recognize the hardware.

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[autoTkey]

Maybe FVDI thought you have connected a cloned FVDI and it killed it?
Try to install it on another computer.

[isma123]

Hi,
M'y avdi software can t communicate with the hardware. Uable to install the port. Started when my avdi hardware was connected to a fvdi software. Didn't communicate and when it was relunch with it avdi software refuse to recognize the hardware.

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EVEN WARANTY WON'T WORK because abrites will see that you tried to hack it !!!! you lost the game :)

[lmqcatarino]

Is possible program a MB with keyless proximity? It's a W211 from 2004. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180307/922f70c79ec95d96e2c339931501ac66.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180307/fff5d0e08f47c651a258cc105a82ceb4.jpg

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[autoTkey]

Sure, why not? Just need a blank key.

[lmqcatarino]

Sure, why not? Just need a blank key.Do you know where I can buy that keyless MB?
And the proximity function will work?

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[Gavra]

Sure, why not? Just need a blank key.
Are you sure AVDI can do it? ;)

Blank keyless go do NOT exist......and you should know all keyless go are SW62 and above......

[lmqcatarino]

Are you sure AVDI can do it? ;)

Blank keyless go do NOT exist......and you should know all keyless go are SW62 and above......So, Avdi can or can't program MB keyless?

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[gttuning]

Come across this today.
Golf 6 pcr2.1 water damage ecu...
Plug in secondhand to flash it with proper vag number but i cant couse sw verion not found...so it wont let me pick the version i want for a diffrent vag number ?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180308/5a6c4519fc0f135dd1793f97c2c2aa76.jpg

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[offsystem]

Choose any sw and later flash back with frf file to current sw version

[gttuning]

Choose any sw and later flash back with frf file to current sw versionYes i flash it with frf 023MH but i think this should be improved so even if current soft not found ot should allow you to pick from database.

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[offsystem]

Maybe someone can send abritus latest flash dvd 🤣

[abdelamjid]

thanks to all for sharing

i have an AVDI and FVDI not woking can you help me how to repaire?

best regards

[wissamshaat]

what is your problem?

[nickolasd]

anybody knows why subaru cloud diagnostics function does not work on Subaru vehicles, tested on 2 cars today 2015 and 17 and nothing no modules found during scan. with proper internet connection of course.
tested bmw cloud right away on a spot, and bmw works fine. is subaru server down or something?

[z786]

I think this online crap needs to be scrapped. They need atleast 95% offline and maybe 5% online authorisation method like most remap machines as a measure against cloning.

[Gavra]

From user view I totally agree with you. But they made it for money income, and with no offline option everyone must pay AMS, or change tool.......so from owners view , I bet we will see all offline gone in next few years, like all others which went cloud only.........

[nenadgorgi]

i'm little confused i own avdi with vag license VN001 , VN003
mileage calibration and key learning


when i try to read conf data or immo data in Micronas clusters the buttons are grey (not in use ) even if the avdi is only plug on usb or in usb-obd2 all is same

513208
but mileage calibration work on Micronas




with nec menu all is ok mileage config data and immo data is working properly (buttons is in use ) pluged on usb or usb-obd2 i can click on buttons
513209

please can somebody trown light to my problem

[gttuning]

Any updates on vag cluster.....2012 vdo mqb?
Smok got it out today.

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[lmqcatarino]

Today I try make first BMW FEM.
On menu " ews parts adaptation" don't appear the option "DCE/DME Exchange".
What's wrong? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180314/420331771c8aece8c59f0992eda0bc19.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180314/01111d53016f1eed4a8eca145f7f25cd.jpg

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[ventzy]

2015 A4 fail unsecure dashbord..
Is this not supported?

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After 2013/2014 the BCM2 is locked. We are still not able to unlock them..

[ventzy]

i had always problems with polo 9n pin cod extracting and key programming

Please tell us a little bit more about the issue and the error message you get.

[ventzy]

Hi all..
2007 c class petrol.
Have a car that come as not starting ...checked drive authorization and ecu looks like not personalized...so got direct conection to it and try to personalize with ezs data but have error ezs rejecting....
Any one seen befor.?
Thankshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180227/e6cbb55ee146281c5c75cc587e0dec46.jpg

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Hi,
You have two options for personalization:
1. You are in the car and the personalization is done via OBDII , the data will be transferred automatically.
2. You do personalization on the bench and using the FBS data file.

Try to personalize via OBDII or try it on the bench using FBS data file.
If you are not able to personalize it there should be a hardware issue.

Let me please know of the outcome.

P.S. The FBS data no matter if it is from the EZS, ISM, ESL or whatever module part of the Driver Authorization System(DAS) is ALWAYS the same.

[ventzy]

Avdi can program a Fiat Fiorino 2011 remote or just program transponder?

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Hi,
It programs both remote and transponder part.

[ventzy]

I have MQB keylearning active but what transponder do i need normal id48 canbus ?

You need to so called Megamos 88 (or Megamos AES) blank transponder.

[ventzy]

"- PIN & CS are now stored after reading and entered automatically in Adaptation and Key Learning menus when required "

BAM! Keep this up and we all might start sending you x-mas cards this year!

Thank you :)

[ventzy]

BMW online for key programming is getting better but I find myself constantly switching back and forth between BMW offline and BMW online to perform different functions, mainly in CAS.
Offline BMW is much better and faster at addressing module, reading and clearing fault codes and synch DME/CAS/EVL.

BMW online often fails to synch CAS/DME/ELV.

Please let me know as soon as you have an issue with the synchronization or addressing module, reading and clearing fault codes so that we could look at the online logs and resolve the issue asap.
We have fixed many of the problems we have had with the BMW2 software.
* Oftentimes when you do a synchronization you have to either disconnect the car battery or just repeat the procedure.

[ventzy]

Is possible program a MB with keyless proximity? It's a W211 from 2004. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180307/922f70c79ec95d96e2c339931501ac66.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180307/fff5d0e08f47c651a258cc105a82ceb4.jpg

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As I know it is impossible to find a brand new MB keyless key. Please tell me where did you buy it from and if it is a new or a used one?
Anyway it shouldn't be supported because of the lack of keyless keys on the market.

[ventzy]

From user view I totally agree with you. But they made it for money income, and with no offline option everyone must pay AMS, or change tool.......so from owners view , I bet we will see all offline gone in next few years, like all others which went cloud only.........

It is not like that, we could always have an offline software and an online special function which requires internet connection.
There are other reasons why we are migrating to cloud software like better software platform, user friendly interface, fast software fixes for all users (no new software build required), security reasons etc. :)

[ventzy]

Today I try make first BMW FEM.
On menu " ews parts adaptation" don't appear the option "DCE/DME Exchange".
What's wrong? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180314/420331771c8aece8c59f0992eda0bc19.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180314/01111d53016f1eed4a8eca145f7f25cd.jpg

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Because we do not support DME/DDE Exchange for the F-series yet (Mini RXX, BMW EXX only) :)

I spoke already to our developers and we will probably have this functionality for the F-series soon.

[lmqcatarino]

Because we do not support DME/DDE Exchange for the F-series yet (Mini RXX, BMW EXX only) :)

I spoke already to our developers and we will probably have this functionality for the F-series soon.But Avdi can program FEM, right? On manual, is that the procedure.

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[Fallen]

Thank you :)

Ok, tried this today and it didn't quite work.
It read the first 6 bytes of CS from the ECU and then found the 7th from the working key.
It did not automatically write the found CS into the top boxes.

There is a new icon with a magnifying glass (with no tool tip if you hover over it).
I clicked it and it displayed the last read CS and PIN.
The pin was incorrect, it contained letters.
The CS was also incorrect, only the CS read from the ECU was correct.
The last byte that was read from the key was "00".

Even if I clicked the "USE" option, it did not write the CS into the top boxes.

[Fallen]

I have had problems with Toyota commander of late, particularly key programming.
The system we had before used to ask you if you wanted to reset the immo at the start or just program a spare key.
It now just goes straight into auto key learning mode which is not what I want.

I have tried this on 2 different non-keyless go cars and both failed but worked 100% with techstream.

[ventzy]

But Avdi can program FEM, right? On manual, is that the procedure.

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Yes, it can and it is described in the user manual.

[ventzy]

Ok, tried this today and it didn't quite work.
It read the first 6 bytes of CS from the ECU and then found the 7th from the working key.
It did not automatically write the found CS into the top boxes.

There is a new icon with a magnifying glass (with no tool tip if you hover over it).
I clicked it and it displayed the last read CS and PIN.
The pin was incorrect, it contained letters.
The CS was also incorrect, only the CS read from the ECU was correct.
The last byte that was read from the key was "00".

Even if I clicked the "USE" option, it did not write the CS into the top boxes.

I am sorry, we are gonna fix that.

[ventzy]

I have had problems with Toyota commander of late, particularly key programming.
The system we had before used to ask you if you wanted to reset the immo at the start or just program a spare key.
It now just goes straight into auto key learning mode which is not what I want.

I have tried this on 2 different non-keyless go cars and both failed but worked 100% with techstream.

It is good to check how many keys are registered from the Live Data, because if there are no registered keys the software doesn't need to reset the system.

[Fallen]

It is good to check how many keys are registered from the Live Data, because if there are no registered keys the software doesn't need to reset the system.

Say the customer had a key stolen but had another spare key.
They then want to reset the immo to delete the missing key and program the working key back in.
There is no way to do this now.

There was nothing wrong with the old Toyota commander system, it was my go to tool, now its broken.

[ventzy]

Say the customer had a key stolen but had another spare key.
They then want to reset the immo to delete the missing key and program the working key back in.
There is no way to do this now.

There was nothing wrong with the old Toyota commander system, it was my go to tool, now its broken.

You will have to choose module #46 , then go to special and select erase keys and the software should ask you to use the available key as a MASTER key.
Let me know of the outcome.

[Fallen]

You will have to choose module #46 , then go to special and select erase keys and the software should ask you to use the available key as a MASTER key.
Let me know of the outcome.

I will try and remember that for the next one.

It seems like the process has been weakened by trying to streamline it.
I had to click one box before, yes or no.
It was simple and gave me control of what I needed to do.

It also failed to learn a new key in both instances when I started the procedure with the existing masterkey.
It started auto learning state, I put the new key in but it never learnt the key.
I waited for over a minute and the security light did not go out.

Normally after a reset and it entered auto learning I would only have to insert each key for it to learn.
This way was faster than adding a key.
Again, it seems like a step backwards.

[ventzy]

I will try and remember that for the next one.

It seems like the process has been weakened by trying to streamline it.
I had to click one box before, yes or no.
It was simple and gave me control of what I needed to do.

It also failed to learn a new key in both instances when I started the procedure with the existing masterkey.
It started auto learning state, I put the new key in but it never learnt the key.
I waited for over a minute and the security light did not go out.

Normally after a reset and it entered auto learning I would only have to insert each key for it to learn.
This way was faster than adding a key.
Again, it seems like a step backwards.

I will take it into consideration.
Thanks.

[ventzy]

Ok, tried this today and it didn't quite work.
It read the first 6 bytes of CS from the ECU and then found the 7th from the working key.
It did not automatically write the found CS into the top boxes.

There is a new icon with a magnifying glass (with no tool tip if you hover over it).
I clicked it and it displayed the last read CS and PIN.
The pin was incorrect, it contained letters.
The CS was also incorrect, only the CS read from the ECU was correct.
The last byte that was read from the key was "00".

Even if I clicked the "USE" option, it did not write the CS into the top boxes.

Please try to select the first option (All 7 bytes...) and then click on the magnifier glass. The 6 bytes should be transferred correctly.
The PIN is correct because it is in hexadecimal format.
The 7th byte should be inserted manually.

[solitaire]

... sorry, wrong post

[isma123]

You will have to choose module #46 , then go to special and select erase keys and the software should ask you to use the available key as a MASTER key.
Let me know of the outcome.


this worked today nice

i have problem reseting toyoya hitag aes keys are they supported ? tnks

[gttuning]

I was at 2007 yaris lost keys.
Reset immo box ok..program a master key ok.
But i was not fit to program second key..
Had to clone with tpx2.

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[norman1967]

Windows 7

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I am I'm 7 64 bit two separate machines and cannot get any cloud options to work i wonder if your on 32?

[gttuning]

I am I'm 7 64 bit two separate machines and cannot get any cloud options to work i wonder if your on 32?Lenovo win7 64bit.
Have two laptops and they work ok.

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[wd bau]

I will try and remember that for the next one.

It seems like the process has been weakened by trying to streamline it.
I had to click one box before, yes or no.
It was simple and gave me control of what I needed to do.

It also failed to learn a new key in both instances when I started the procedure with the existing masterkey.
It started auto learning state, I put the new key in but it never learnt the key.
I waited for over a minute and the security light did not go out.

Normally after a reset and it entered auto learning I would only have to insert each key for it to learn.
This way was faster than adding a key.
Again, it seems like a step backwards.

hello the problem in software instruction and bulding , before last update software guide u if u work in key blade system or in smk system , this what i do to resolve in AKL go and chose immo from main diagnostics option make reset go out (software will ask u to put new key and this will NOT program key) start from begin and software recognize and u can add master key and all key you want

[norman1967]

Got it to work today on win 10 tablet. But failed to sync dme. Still have fault ews anti tampering I am trying to sync ecu up.

Will reinstall and post back results

[isma123]

I was at 2007 yaris lost keys.
Reset immo box ok..program a master key ok.
But i was not fit to program second key..
Had to clone with tpx2.

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same happened to me on a yaris also from 2001 i had to reset box manually but cant get second key progrmmed

[Rito]

About KM in ABS Renault I try to do (Renault online) but nothing happens...
Someone try it??

[z786]

Nothing on the online works stable enough. Abrites need to rethink this platform

[Rito]

Nothing on the online works stable enough. Abrites need to rethink this platform

BMW Online work very very good!!!!

[PremierD]

:roflmao: .............

[Gavra]

It was funny in the past, but last couple of month's BMW is working much better than before.

[PremierD]

Sh1t X 2 is still sh1t mate ...lol

[yugo45]

AVDI team:
What is the plans for new 2013 and up VAG Simos 12, 16, 18 , any future plans to be able to read in boot mode and get immobilizer data for it ?

Can someone answer this , never got answer????

[whiskeyman]

still no further forward with the ford software i see

so chinese tools it still is

guess most must do high end cars here
and not the most common working class type cars

and the kia hyundia pin reading still 50/50 after 2012
but guess this unimportant too
just to hope all my customers drive merc and bmw

[Rito]

http://abrites.com/news/news-about-our-products/1818-abrites-diagnostics-for-renault-dacia-version

[ps80l]

Im a bit confused.... Mitsubishi software claims to do all keys lost for the newer prox systems. I then watch a video where they show this new software and they are ordering software from mitsubishi??? What the difference of me doing it with my j2534 and abrites software?? Nowhere in the description do they mention you have to have a special licensing to obtain software from mitsubishi.

[M3L3R]

I cant get pass for EZS A1645450908. Unsupported version :/ Lost key situation...

[QBAelectric]

I got this same issue.
Unfortunately nothing up to around 2008 can be extracted in w164 EZS...

[M3L3R]

I got mail from abrites support "pre-facelift ML164 is not supported for ALL KEY LOST". We have to wait.

[Weasel3]

If anybody have needs to get some extra licences etc. Or tool upgrade.
There is a promotion on the main site started yesterday. 19-25 March.
I thought maybe someone would mention it already. But none so far.
So here it is. :)

[Gavra]

Distribution box is made with exceptional quality materials. It's clicking 41h on bench to get password from W164 2010 and is still working, without pass though.........but relay is working :)

[joemajdalani]

Distribution box is made with exceptional quality materials. It's clicking 41h on bench to get password from W164 2010 and is still working, without pass though.........but relay is working :)

Hi Gavara,this model not supported relay method,IR must be manually inserted

[Gavra]

But it's WORKING, relay is clicking, AVDI is calculating.....LED changing speed and colours....even tried to pull one end of cable from relay connection , it immediately ask for turning ignition ON so it recognizes difference with IR reader.... If it's NOT supported and menu is allowing me to use it, it's just embarrassing for developers to publish SW with that error :/

[dollarbill]

Hi for all
i explain my story is the first time i have a very good support i would you make key on F30 SERIE 3 2015 all key lost i respect all etap but when avdi say me retur original dump in FEM 95128 i put original dump but the fem don’t awake and relay click continuously i think hi i killed FEM . I phone in abrites france the enginneer say is not possible to kill the FEM i say are you sure ? He say 100% i sure and bring back to me see whats happens with the FEM . I dropped the FEM the after day he call me he say me i repair your fem he say me i have overheated the chip he say me i can program key for you i give a key and not good because the key is 868mhz and this FEM accept the 434mhz ok not problem i order key 434mhz . I put the FEM on the car and the car awake i program the key and all is good i program key return the coding and the car start IS THE FIRST TIME OR I HAD THE REAL SUPPORT
because we must also say when it goes well with the support

[isma123]

this was exception , but for most of us ( real workers engineering) the frenche done the work for you , you can thanks him a lot , may be they should bill this type of support for begginers to develope a new branch of work

what i think is if any one of us start to send them work, they will be upset ! or payable service

they ABRITES are going the right way again :)

[dollarbill]

It’s sure i say BIG THANKS to engineer I have a chance I live near abrites france and he just see if i have a PDS and AMS active always i put this two option . two week later the distribution box fail i bring back the box he repair in 24hours . Last week the kline of my avdi interface (old interface i have this 5 years ) don’t work i bring back but he send to bulgaria he repair me for 200€ with ship dhl included is good price but i don’t work while 7 days .

[gttuning]

Yo guys..
2017 GLA 156 mercedes..fbs4
Gearbox was change .can drive authorization can be done with abrites?
Old box is ok to comunicate with xentry
Thanks

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[Gavra]

Ahahahhahaha, you are kidding wright?!

[ventzy]

Yo guys..
2017 GLA 156 mercedes..fbs4
Gearbox was change .can drive authorization can be done with abrites?
Old box is ok to comunicate with xentry
Thanks

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It is not possible.

[gttuning]

Ahahahhahaha, you are kidding wright?!No not kidding.just asking[emoji16]
Any data can be swaped do you know?

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[Gavra]

I would like to see any developer to stand out and honestly admit how many decades they need to get FBS4 working.......Sad truth is that MB will never again be in the hands of independent locksmiths.......Even if they manage to make keys, ECU, EIS, EGS will never be possible to renew.......

[isma123]

you mean in 10 years if we are still alive we will buy mn037 100.000€
lol


CAN you give us please more info about this FBS4 hash

[ps80l]

My mitsubishi question was never answered so I guess I have to wait until next sale event...

[Mario3]

I would like to see any developer to stand out and honestly admit how many decades they need to get FBS4 working.......Sad truth is that MB will never again be in the hands of independent locksmiths.......Even if they manage to make keys, ECU, EIS, EGS will never be possible to renew.......
actually, they already know how to renew fbs4 units ;) the problem is to programm them back again and get them to work

but from the other side it could take a very long time to get it working... if you look at the w204 ezs for example, production start was 2008, and 2-3 years ago it was not posible to make all keys lost at all.. now its a 20min job on most tools. But on the first version of the W164/W221 ezs there is still no solution...

[isma123]

question ? for a virgin fbs4 unit, is not possible to recode with xentry online ??????

[vageric]

question ? for a virgin fbs4 unit, is not possible to recode with xentry online ??????

very few people have the license to do this.
we self are busy to get the license for fbs4 programming.

[anroedh]

If i open abprog en click on connection diagram bcm2 mcu there is nog picture.516882

[anroedh]

BMW online software reads dtc wrong, lost al coding data with coding online bmw f30.

[ps80l]

Can I read eeprom data generated with supervag? Eeprom was taken from 2012 tiguan cluster. Couldn't find any setting on avdi. Ended making key with Mk3.

[isma123]

If i open abprog en click on connection diagram bcm2 mcu there is nog picture.516882


GO FROM VAG COMMANDER and you will find the diagram you looking for
if you don't have licence you can't read it

[anroedh]

Thanx i see it, strange that is is not viewed in abprog :tears_of_joy:

[Rito]

About KM in ABS Renault I try to do (Renault online) but nothing happens...
Someone try it??

I can confirm it work in ABS i done 3 Megane3 for now...

[Gavra]

When will MB online become operational and will W447, W218 be covered with this VCI or new one will be developed for new vehicles?

[i-vtec]

abrites still makes mix with vag license and making more and more - so in the future will be split and maing new money

why mqb 12-14 keylearning is a new license vn009 - this is without sense mqb is mqb and keylearning must be in vn008

now name of vn003 - VAG Key Learning Special Function is not a full keylearnig you makeing next 3 vn licese to program keys 6, 8 and now 9

[rapidlocksmiths]

the 2012 to 2014 mqb coverage is a welcome addition to the coverage and if you own vn008 its only £261 to upgrade to VN009 , seems vn008 is no longer available to buy and has been replaced with vn009 so superceeded , but at just £261 extra i can make that pay

[nazz2]

Failed to pull pin on Vauxhall 1.7 cdi, only gave key code.

[rapidlocksmiths]

did you try legacy mode as well

[isma123]

abrites still makes mix with vag license and making more and more - so in the future will be split and maing new money

why mqb 12-14 keylearning is a new license vn009 - this is without sense mqb is mqb and keylearning must be in vn008

now name of vn003 - VAG Key Learning Special Function is not a full keylearnig you makeing next 3 vn licese to program keys 6, 8 and now 9


THEY don't mind about us costumers !
they only need to get our money money money money

[nazz2]

yes martin, i tried legacy mode, and listed 3 engine codes.

[rapidlocksmiths]

not come across that thus far , touch wood

[offsystem]

I tried to decode data of vag edc17c74 but i get message that it cant decode eeprom.

EE has 256kb and flash 4mb. Readed by x17 tool.

[Gavra]

You need internal flash and eep.....

[yugo45]

I tried to decode data of vag edc17c74 but i get message that it cant decode eeprom.

EE has 256kb and flash 4mb. Readed by x17 tool.


You need internal flash and eep.....

You guys joking , right.
They are very behind with this, they can not even read new ECU , GPT Password read is JOKE with AVDI.
Out of the 10 ECU it will read maybe One, How you except to have Decode functions if they can not read Flash and eeprom.
Same thing with MED17.5.21 no way to decode it. Boot mode read /Decode with new Cars NEED BIG UPDATE ,.

@offsystem
Try to read that ECU with AVDI, I am very interested what will happen ???

[offsystem]

You guys joking , right.
They are very behind with this, they can not even read new ECU , GPT Password read is JOKE with AVDI.
Out of the 10 ECU it will read maybe One, How you except to have Decode functions if they can not read Flash and eeprom.
Same thing with MED17.5.21 no way to decode it. Boot mode read /Decode with new Cars NEED BIG UPDATE ,.

@offsystem
Try to read that ECU with AVDI, I am very interested what will happen ???I think now are you joking to read it with avdi 🤣. Btw with vvdi it is the same cant decrypt.

[Gavra]

Mate, i have tools for every operation....I've never in my life tried to read any ECU with AVDI.....that is not tool for that. Just for renew and coding...... Sorry to inform you,but only in small part of Eastern Europe people use cloned tools and one tool for all....and crying about not possible to do it with cloned tool.

Pay for tool for each demand and get proper support. Even decoding of EDC17 I don't do with AVDI, but even if it can do it it will NOT decode anything with external flash.........

[offsystem]

1793 tricore has just d and p flash

[Gavra]

1793 tricore has just d and p flashIROM you mean? Sorry for mistake, I work MB mostly and VW only when others cant....don't know all memories on top of my head....if you need decoding I can help you after tuesday.....

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[Frankcar]

anyone tested TA12 - PCB for Mercedes IR key ? how i can renew this remote ?
For renew need to soldering mcu or only IR ?

[Gavra]

Just write new data over IR and it will work.

[BADBOYS_FOREVER]

I did not succeed rewritten with ir, only nec desolder pcb

[yugo45]

You guys joking , right.
They are very behind with this, they can not even read new ECU , GPT Password read is JOKE with AVDI.
Out of the 10 ECU it will read maybe One, How you except to have Decode functions if they can not read Flash and eeprom.
Same thing with MED17.5.21 no way to decode it. Boot mode read /Decode with new Cars NEED BIG UPDATE ,.

@offsystem
Try to read that ECU with AVDI, I am very interested what will happen ???


Mate, i have tools for every operation....I've never in my life tried to read any ECU with AVDI.....that is not tool for that. Just for renew and coding...... Sorry to inform you,but only in small part of Eastern Europe people use cloned tools and one tool for all....and crying about not possible to do it with cloned tool.

Pay for tool for each demand and get proper support. Even decoding of EDC17 I don't do with AVDI, but even if it can do it it will NOT decode anything with external flash.........
I mention this since this is AVDI SUPPORT thread , so AVDI TEAM can see this and something about it .

We pay almost 2000 euros for device and licensee then need to get other device to read ECU, I do not think this is solution at all. They need to FIX this crap, PAY to any tuning company ,if needs, and be Up to date with function Read ECU.

Even Clone K-Tag which cost 100 euros can read more ECU-s then AVDI and tell me is that Fair to all of Us who spend all this money on AVDI?

[anroedh]

I mention this since this is AVDI SUPPORT thread , so AVDI TEAM can see this and something about it .

We pay almost 2000 euros for device and licensee then need to get other device to read ECU, I do not think this is solution at all. They need to FIX this crap, PAY to any tuning company ,if needs, and be Up to date with function Read ECU.

Even Clone K-Tag which cost 100 euros can read more ECU-s then AVDI and tell me is that Fair to all of Us who spend all this money on AVDI?

You can not compare it with clone tools, look at the price of a original k-tag master device.

[ttzag]

You can not compare it with clone tools, look at the price of a original k-tag master device.

he didn't compare ..he said even a cheap device with 100 euro can read what avdi cannot

[anroedh]

he didn't compare ..he said even a cheap device with 100 euro can read what avdi cannot
Do you sugest that avdi clone some things of k-tag

[PremierD]

No you plank he is not ... read the post again .....

[isma123]

Mate, i have tools for every operation....I've never in my life tried to read any ECU with AVDI.....that is not tool for that. Just for renew and coding...... Sorry to inform you,but only in small part of Eastern Europe people use cloned tools and one tool for all....and crying about not possible to do it with cloned tool.

Pay for tool for each demand and get proper support. Even decoding of EDC17 I don't do with AVDI, but even if it can do it it will NOT decode anything with external flash.........


WE WANT THIS TOOL TO DO WHAT WE PAY FOR

IF YOU BUY EDC17 DECODING DON'T EXPECT TO DECODE A CONTINENTAL ECU WITH JUST TO DO WHAT IT SAYS !

THAT"s ALL !!

[Gavra]

Stop screaming you plank.......I paid full and do not cry ,and others with one licence complain like there's no other solution .........

[wintesla]

AVDI is tool for key prepare, coding, adaptation and km chnage.
Is not tuning tool.
So take Ktag, Galleto, Alientech etc.( ori and clone) and make key.
Cant make? Hm.... strange.Tool for tuning cant make key .Must write to fix this s..t.

[offsystem]

AVDI is tool for key prepare, coding, adaptation and km chnage.
Is not tuning tool.
So take Ktag, Galleto, Alientech etc.( ori and clone) and make key.
Cant make? Hm.... strange.Tool for tuning cant make key .Must write to fix this s..t.We dont need it for tuning but we need it to get immodata and there we need for the latest ecus the tricore data.

[ventzy]

You guys joking , right.
They are very behind with this, they can not even read new ECU , GPT Password read is JOKE with AVDI.
Out of the 10 ECU it will read maybe One, How you except to have Decode functions if they can not read Flash and eeprom.
Same thing with MED17.5.21 no way to decode it. Boot mode read /Decode with new Cars NEED BIG UPDATE ,.

@offsystem
Try to read that ECU with AVDI, I am very interested what will happen ???

That is not true :)
An example : I can successfully read the MED17.5.21. It seems you do not know how to connect and you haven't asked support from us.

[ventzy]

abrites still makes mix with vag license and making more and more - so in the future will be split and maing new money

why mqb 12-14 keylearning is a new license vn009 - this is without sense mqb is mqb and keylearning must be in vn008

now name of vn003 - VAG Key Learning Special Function is not a full keylearnig you makeing next 3 vn licese to program keys 6, 8 and now 9

Name a tool which does keys for the 2012-2014 models.
Does this answer your SALES related question in the "new avdi problems and solutions only" TECHNICAL related thread ?

[ventzy]

THEY don't mind about us costumers !
they only need to get our money money money money

Let's please focus on the technical issues you all have and not discuss our prices, promotions etc.

[ventzy]

anyone tested TA12 - PCB for Mercedes IR key ? how i can renew this remote ?
For renew need to soldering mcu or only IR ?

There is no need to renew it. You could reprogram it as many times as you want.

[ventzy]

I tried to decode data of vag edc17c74 but i get message that it cant decode eeprom.

EE has 256kb and flash 4mb. Readed by x17 tool.

Have you tried this function:
518312

If it is not possible to get the PIN and CS could you send both flash and eeprom data files?

[offsystem]

yes i tried it, i attached you the files.

[ps80l]

Questions asked on 19th and 26th of March completely ignored....

[yugo45]

That is not true :)
An example : I can successfully read the MED17.5.21. It seems you do not know how to connect and you haven't asked support from us.

For MED17.5.21 I was talking about Decoding data, try this , and you will see it does not work , it gives Eeprom Error same as Offsystem has with this EDC17 :
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/649242-need-help-to-swap-ecu-MED17-5-21?p=3229076&viewfull=1#post3229076



(http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/649242-need-help-to-swap-ecu-MED17-5-21?p=3229076&viewfull=1#post3229076)And for this " your connections is probably not good ,you do not know how to connect"
This is every time same answer form AVDI, like we do not know what we doing. You have to understand one thing, people here in DK in this Thread are not armatures , most people in this Thread are professionals doing this 10+ years , and know how to do this job.


Speaking of CONNECTIONS, You need to update your connection diagrams, 99% ECU after 2013 has GPT Password and need to use T1 and T2 form DS box, you missing this , even if is older ECU before 2013 if was update in VW , it will have GPT password.

I know we can find online most of them , But it is very hard to figure out with DS box if have more then one boot pin. This is something Unique to AVDI and needs to be provided by your TEAM.

[yugo45]

AVDI team:
What is the plans for new 2013 and up VAG Simos 12, 16, 18 , any future plans to be able to read in boot mode and get immobilizer data for it ?

FEB 28


Can someone answer this , never got answer????

March 19


Questions asked on 19th and 26th of March completely ignored....

Same thing with my questions.

[Gavra]

yes i tried it, i attached you the files.
WVWZZZ3CZFE523132 This is your VIN. Rest of data you get in PM....

[ventzy]

For MED17.5.21 I was talking about Decoding data, try this , and you will see it does not work , it gives Eeprom Error same as Offsystem has with this EDC17 :
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/649242-need-help-to-swap-ecu-MED17-5-21?p=3229076&viewfull=1#post3229076



(http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/649242-need-help-to-swap-ecu-MED17-5-21?p=3229076&viewfull=1#post3229076)And for this " your connections is probably not good ,you do not know how to connect"
This is every time same answer form AVDI, like we do not know what we doing. You have to understand one thing, people here in DK in this Thread are not armatures , most people in this Thread are professionals doing this 10+ years , and know how to do this job.


Speaking of CONNECTIONS, You need to update your connection diagrams, 99% ECU after 2013 has GPT Password and need to use T1 and T2 form DS box, you missing this , even if is older ECU before 2013 if was update in VW , it will have GPT password.

I know we can find online most of them , But it is very hard to figure out with DS box if have more then one boot pin. This is something Unique to AVDI and needs to be provided by your TEAM.

For the Golf VII (MQB-platform) we do offer mileage calibration and key programming only. Now I understand what you mean. Unfortunately it is not possible to swap the Engine ECU at the moment.
Thank you for the clarification.



(http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/649242-need-help-to-swap-ecu-MED17-5-21?p=3229076&viewfull=1#post3229076)And for this " your connections is probably not good ,you do not know how to connect"
This is every time same answer form AVDI, like we do not know what we doing. You have to understand one thing, people here in DK in this Thread are not armatures , most people in this Thread are professionals doing this 10+ years , and know how to do this job.

Please do not understand it like that as I didn't mean that. I would never say you do not have enough knowledge or experience.
I was just able to read this Engine ECU in boot mode and thought you are using a different connection. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

[ventzy]

AVDI team:
What is the plans for new 2013 and up VAG Simos 12, 16, 18 , any future plans to be able to read in boot mode and get immobilizer data for it ?

FEB 28
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by yugo45 http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=3242405#post3242405)
Can someone answer this , never got answer????

March 19




http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by ps80l http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=3253116#post3253116)
Questions asked on 19th and 26th of March completely ignored....



Same thing with my questions.


Unfortunately we do not have any plans for boot mode reading of the Simos 12,16 and 18 at the moment.

[i-vtec]

@ventzy i don't attack you this time, my post was only fear that you still making vn function for the same function (mqb keylearning), when you spliting AN function to VN I lost a lot of money and I do not want it to happen again...

for now with new cars from the VAG group and not only, unfortunately, but avdi is far behind...
component protection for vw, skoda, seat simply not exist and in audi is very limited :(

[ps80l]

Questions asked on 19th and 26th of March completely ignored....

[yugo45]

For the Golf VII (MQB-platform) we do offer mileage calibration and key programming only. Now I understand what you mean. Unfortunately it is not possible to swap the Engine ECU at the moment.
Thank you for the clarification.
Thank you for answers.

So files form Offsystem is not possible to decode as well, since this will be MQB-platform.





Please do not understand it like that as I didn't mean that. I would never say you do not have enough knowledge or experience.
I was just able to read this Engine ECU in boot mode and thought you are using a different connection. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

My point here is to work and update more on new ECU with GPT Password to be able to READ/WRITE ,I am sure that AVDI can read 99% ECU-s , only problem is GPT Password data base and need to update Connection diagram with DS box when is need more then on boot pin.
Very simple solution will be make it Read Password separate Function like Galletto II has, This will make much easy for US and Your Team to figure out problem.

Example :
Old MED 17.5.5 made before 2013 has only one Boot pin but cars with MED17.5.5 made after 2013 has different tricore and has GPT Password and need to be connect with 3 boot pins .
New connection found on internet :
https://www.evc.de/en/product/bsl/showEcu.asp?title=MED17.5.5%20HW02

In AVDI connection diagram there is no connection for this and many other ECU-s . This was my whole point .

[ventzy]

Im a bit confused.... Mitsubishi software claims to do all keys lost for the newer prox systems. I then watch a video where they show this new software and they are ordering software from mitsubishi??? What the difference of me doing it with my j2534 and abrites software?? Nowhere in the description do they mention you have to have a special licensing to obtain software from mitsubishi.

Here is a video of the procedure : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UOjNB9LinQ

I really don't know what are you talking about, could you send me the video?

[ventzy]

Thank you for answers.

So files form Offsystem is not possible to decode as well, since this will be MQB-platform.





My point here is to work and update more on new ECU with GPT Password to be able to READ/WRITE ,I am sure that AVDI can read 99% ECU-s , only problem is GPT Password data base and need to update Connection diagram with DS box when is need more then on boot pin.
Very simple solution will be make it Read Password separate Function like Galletto II has, This will make much easy for US and Your Team to figure out problem.

Example :
Old MED 17.5.5 made before 2013 has only one Boot pin but cars with MED17.5.5 made after 2013 has different tricore and has GPT Password and need to be connect with 3 boot pins .
New connection found on internet :
https://www.evc.de/en/product/bsl/showEcu.asp?title=MED17.5.5%20HW02

In AVDI connection diagram there is no connection for this and many other ECU-s . This was my whole point .


Thank you for the detailed information. I will take it into consideration.
I hope we will have enough time and other resources to do that.

I spoke to our VAG developers and they confirmed they have already worked on the EDC17C74 (as we have one here) , we do support its processor for read/write eeprom and flash but we are still not able to extract the PIN and CS.

[ps80l]

Here is a video of the procedure : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UOjNB9LinQ

I really don't know what are you talking about, could you send me the video?

Did you even bother to read what I said. "ALL KEYS LOST" clearly stated in the first sentence. Then you go and add a video of adding a key...Any cheap chinese tool can do this.
Here is the video.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqZbcq8jiHI&t=12s

[Fallen]

It would be good to have the option on PSA commander to read the PIN code from the working key (turning ignition on and off).
AVDI works great when its all keys lost but if the customer has a working key I find myself using other tools because pulling and replacing fuses is a pain.

[ventzy]

Did you even bother to read what I said. "ALL KEYS LOST" clearly stated in the first sentence. Then you go and add a video of adding a key...Any cheap chinese tool can do this.
Here is the video.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqZbcq8jiHI&t=12s

My fault, take it easy.. I wanted to paste the link of this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1HUw1dy02M .

[ps80l]

So it seems that only some prox vehicles are covered for all lost keys situation. The ones that are not covered you need to subscribe to mitsubishi and order PWF file. Correct? Happen to have a list of what vehicles are truly covered by AVDI?

Amazing how abrites does not mention this anywhere on their site.

[ventzy]

So it seems that only some prox vehicles are covered for all lost keys situation. The ones that are not covered you need to subscribe to mitsubishi and order PWF file. Correct? Happen to have a list of what vehicles are truly covered by AVDI?

Amazing how abrites does not mention this anywhere on their site.\

Have you even watched this video about the PROX key programming or you just have always something to say against Abrites. Because of people like you all other threads have been closed.

[ventzy]

@ADMINS

Please open another thread related to Abrites sales, offers, complaints or whatever so that people like me could just provide here some technical support if it is in their competence and we all could just focus on that and learn.
Please try to warn the people who are posting non-technical related comments.

[ps80l]

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Have you even watched this video about the PROX key programming or you just have always something to say against Abrites. Because of people like you all other threads have been closed.

Its obvious that you are some sort of secretary for abrites. Why don't you pay close attention to the videos. On one vehicle it clearly shows avdi doing all keys lost. On another video it mentions you need to get files from mitsubishi. Open your eyes!! Pay attention. That one that requires you download files from mitsubishi does NOT give option of "key registration, no working key"
https://thumb.ibb.co/e2us7H/openyoureyes.png (https://ibb.co/e2us7H)
https://thumb.ibb.co/iYa4Mc/openyoureyes1.png (https://ibb.co/iYa4Mc)

[pepi]

I have question about Audi A5 2012 key making , Is it going to work chinese keys or need only ABRITES key ?

[solitaire]

I have question about Audi A5 2012 key making , Is it going to work chinese keys or need only ABRITES key ?
VAG Ver 31 - work china key.

[whiskeyman]

@ADMINS

Please open another thread related to Abrites sales, offers, complaints or whatever so that people like me could just provide here some technical support if it is in their competence and we all could just focus on that and learn.
Please try to warn the people who are posting non-technical related comments.

reading through your posts
am still looking for your technical input?.?????
And maybe one or the lads here saying yes
that was wonderful your solution worked

cutting and paste videos and parts of abrities bullshit propaganda
does not seem to cure the problems

Just another salesman with were working on it
or have informed the team

[isma123]

@ADMINS

Please open another thread related to Abrites sales, offers, complaints or whatever so that people like me could just provide here some technical support if it is in their competence and we all could just focus on that and learn.
Please try to warn the people who are posting non-technical related comments.

first of all thank you for continu giving us support even when you read bad comments or what seems to be atack ! !:!
man i don't have any thing against this company as i advised many friend to buy it !
and i've been your costumer for about 10 years :)
maybe you do'nt care !

what we ask is just to say this car will work this one will not , i've been in road service and when you travel 150km to a car and you get ashamed because your tool is not dowing what it supposed to do , and you tell your self i could take this other tool with me , maybe it should work , :)

i have many other tools not just your, was full before new licences ; and my impression it that become shi == tty .. i'm selling it :p
bmw offline was awsome , renault commander was perfect , now both contains many bugs , i have impression that they are being worst +++ is just to use the online version , ?

sometimes i have to work on car on 7 floor park under ground , is your 4G working there ?

please again don't take it as personal atack or your company atack is just that we don't have all the same way to express our opinion ,

hope better understanding

hope you understand

[ventzy]

Its obvious that you are some sort of secretary for abrites. Why don't you pay close attention to the videos. On one vehicle it clearly shows avdi doing all keys lost. On another video it mentions you need to get files from mitsubishi. Open your eyes!! Pay attention. That one that requires you download files from mitsubishi does NOT give option of "key registration, no working key"
https://thumb.ibb.co/e2us7H/openyoureyes.png (https://ibb.co/e2us7H)
https://thumb.ibb.co/iYa4Mc/openyoureyes1.png (https://ibb.co/iYa4Mc)


You can program prox keys without problems to the latest models, josh levi was the first to try the function. It is just obvious.
if you have problems let us know.

[ventzy]

reading through your posts
am still looking for your technical input?.?????
And maybe one or the lads here saying yes
that was wonderful your solution worked

cutting and paste videos and parts of abrities bullshit propaganda
does not seem to cure the problems

Just another salesman with were working on it
or have informed the team

Please relax.

[rapidlocksmiths]

alot is down to human nature , no one posts on the positives but shout loud on the negatives , it seems to be the modern way .

ive said it before and il say it again , i believe the biggest problem faced by abrites is the lack of clarity especially for their newer customers , things like ;

application lists of models actually covered and accurate data on those not covered , such lists help many
accurate up to date and understandable manuals for each commander
clarity in announcements , ie make it clear that VN009 actually superceeds VN008 and VN008 is no longer available but a lower upgrade price is available to VN008 owners , which is the case and i think fair , but not clear in the announcement.

i believe if abrites got these areas bang on , then it would stop alot of the questions and alot of the frustration as people would have an up to date accurate reference resource to turn to at their fingertips , and may free up alot of the teams time answering more basic issues.
alot can be learnt from advanced diagnostics and their IQ system and IQ app , although far from perfect and far from totally accurate , its a valuable resource for many .

maybe if abrites had such a resource , better manuals etc , then alot of the time could be saved for all , maybe better application lists of exact cars and models covered , maybe your own dedicated customer forum run by you were more technical posts can be posted and solution that benefit avdi customers only , all may reduce the issues that you read.

as a positive the avdi fan videos are very helpful and a positive addition , maybe these can be increased covering a wider coverage , im sure many appreciate these and would benefit from more of them , so this is a positive addition that should be increased, the new weekly email on whats happening is a good addition , so its obvious effort is being made in these areas.

many recent updates have been positive , the ability to read pins on astra K , on vectra c Z30DT engine , new mitsubishi coverage , new psa models , new mqb additions with more to come , actually listening to comments on this forum and making the additions requested , so alot of positives .

i honestly believe abrites is heading in the right direction and if the manuals , videos and reference resources are clearer and accurate then alot of what you read could be avoided , especially as more and more new customers are not as experienced or tech savvy as some are .

when i read some comments its as if the tool is terrible , when in fact its excellent , its not perfect , but what is ?

for me the key to calming the waters is clarity , accurate reference resources and clear accurate communication . The tool itself is excellent in my opinion and if positive feedback is learnt from can only get better .

[foxtec800]

Can`t say i have had a weekly email myself? But knowing what`s coming and what is being worked on for updates and new additions would be definitely welcome, That way we can all plan and budget ;-) for the future. It may also help Abrites in as much that current users may wait for their release as opposed to shopping elsewhere for additional tools .

[ps80l]

You can program prox keys without problems to the latest models, josh levi was the first to try the function. It is just obvious.
if you have problems let us know.

Not obvious as videos show different menus and different steps....so how can it be obvious??

Still have not answered the question..... Are ALL prox vehicle supported for "all lost keys" without having to get files from Mitsubishi? Yes or No?

If no...can you provide list of vehicles that require Mitsubishi subscription files. Thanks

[pepi]

Did anyone try to change mileage in key at Audi A4 2012 or it need new key to be reseted.

[whiskeyman]

alot is down to human nature , no one posts on the positives but shout loud on the negatives , it seems to be the modern way .

ive said it before and il say it again , i believe the biggest problem faced by abrites is the lack of clarity especially for their newer customers , things like ;

application lists of models actually covered and accurate data on those not covered , such lists help many
accurate up to date and understandable manuals for each commander
clarity in announcements , ie make it clear that VN009 actually superceeds VN008 and VN008 is no longer available but a lower upgrade price is available to VN008 owners , which is the case and i think fair , but not clear in the announcement.

i believe if abrites got these areas bang on , then it would stop alot of the questions and alot of the frustration as people would have an up to date accurate reference resource to turn to at their fingertips , and may free up alot of the teams time answering more basic issues.
alot can be learnt from advanced diagnostics and their IQ system and IQ app , although far from perfect and far from totally accurate , its a valuable resource for many .

maybe if abrites had such a resource , better manuals etc , then alot of the time could be saved for all , maybe better application lists of exact cars and models covered , maybe your own dedicated customer forum run by you were more technical posts can be posted and solution that benefit avdi customers only , all may reduce the issues that you read.

as a positive the avdi fan videos are very helpful and a positive addition , maybe these can be increased covering a wider coverage , im sure many appreciate these and would benefit from more of them , so this is a positive addition that should be increased, the new weekly email on whats happening is a good addition , so its obvious effort is being made in these areas.

many recent updates have been positive , the ability to read pins on astra K , on vectra c Z30DT engine , new mitsubishi coverage , new psa models , new mqb additions with more to come , actually listening to comments on this forum and making the additions requested , so alot of positives .

i honestly believe abrites is heading in the right direction and if the manuals , videos and reference resources are clearer and accurate then alot of what you read could be avoided , especially as more and more new customers are not as experienced or tech savvy as some are .

when i read some comments its as if the tool is terrible , when in fact its excellent , its not perfect , but what is ?

for me the key to calming the waters is clarity , accurate reference resources and clear accurate communication . The tool itself is excellent in my opinion and if positive feedback is learnt from can only get better .

i still use the tool daily
and i vent my frustrations to the jobs i keep failing on (am a grumpy old bastard)
and been harping on about ford etc for ages...................falls again on deaf ears

as for the manual update etc etc etc
its been suggested countless times here on dk
May i suggest employ someone who can update these manuals etc

theres only a few buttons we can press on the tool lets be honest
still waiting for someone to design a nice simple interface
example
step 1 place key in ignition
step 2 goto instruments
step 3 read cluster
step 4 save info
step 5 cannot be made untill info is saved

automatic saving files etc should be a must with all tools
abrities does many things but the option to place a saved dump anywhere i like
would have been a great asset

having used the vvdi etc i find there interface software nicer laid out
but thats down to preference
and as for
VN009
and god knows what other licence name were getting next...............well thats another grump for another day

[i-vtec]

Mr ventzy (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/503784-ventzy) please read carefully and answer to my question:

1. Why abrites mb keys don't work fully on vans (don't work rear door open)?
2. Why you don't inform about this on your website or in pricelist?
3. I don't use long time a distribution box, i connect ed17 from vag and vag software check db update on internet and don't find any update. When i conect to ecu with vag software - no communitation at all with ecu. Because im smart i run PSA software and this software also check ds update on internet and FIND update! next i go back to vag software and from this moment i can communicate with ECU! THIS IS VERY BIG BUG! why this happened?
4. When i use DB to boot edc17 i must use a resistor 1000ohm together with white wire named boot or resistor is inside wires or in db?

[gmb45]

@ADMINS

Please open another thread related to Abrites sales, offers, complaints or whatever so that people like me could just provide here some technical support if it is in their competence and we all could just focus on that and learn.
Please try to warn the people who are posting non-technical related comments. look mate your still here because it benefits the members, that can change very quickly.

[Frankcar]

FEM F30 2013 have filter , customer need to spare key , i tried for make key with AVDI but AVDI software show message: Unit not Supported !
anyone can help me that what is the problem ? (Filter or version FEM)?
Does anyone know what is this ISTA version this FEM ?
Serial number - 8170691160
Program.: Date Version
SVK 01 [08/02/2013]
SWFL - 0000155E-004.102.040
SWFL - 0000155F-000.003.029
CAFD - 00000794-004.124.042
HWEL - 00000792-000.004.008
HWAP - 00000F32-255.255.255
HWAP - 00001263-255.255.255
BTLD - 00001556-003.101.010

Thanks

[isma123]

renewing (unlocking) toyota keys 8A type dont work

i tried in toyota software
and in tagkeytool function using protag

[isma123]

3. I don't use long time a distribution box, i connect ed17 from vag and vag software check db update on internet and don't find any update. When i conect to ecu with vag software - no communitation at all with ecu. Because im smart i run PSA software and this software also check ds update on internet and FIND update! next i go back to vag software and from this moment i can communicate with ECU! THIS IS VERY BIG BUG! why this happened?
4. When i use DB to boot edc17 i must use a resistor 1000ohm together with white wire named boot or resistor is inside wires or in db?

hello mate ,
let me answer some question
4, the white wire named boot contains 1K ohms resistor ,, don't need others ,
3, u'r not dumb , u succed connected ecu , no mather the way , u succes using this tool, it WORKS

can"t help with 1 AND 2 sorry maybe mr ventzy or wintesla would reply

[M3L3R]

Clear crash data for Ford focus/mondeo on 95320 doesnt work. Not possible to read eprom in sid803a volvo(very useful function for synch). Cant do mileage correction for ford transit custom 2016-.

[isma123]

milage reset in master 3 2018 year not work ,,,

[PremierD]

milage reset in master 3 2018 year not work ,,,

:eek:............................................. ..........

[isma123]

:eek:............................................. ..........

WORKED FOR YOU ?
TRUCK HAS 3423KMS AND AFTER CORRECTION GOT 807433KMS FINISHED it with enigma that worked perfectly


JUST Notice that from 2015 master III have the same dash until today

[PremierD]

Then they will come back and say it was operator error mate .. ..were you standing on one leg when you pushed the do it button ??? :roflmao:

[Zeddy]

Hi all,
I’ve got an issue with a Vw Touareg.
07
Spare remote.
Programmed both keys (3D group and customers) using AVDI.
No keys in system, couldn't remember pin, AVDI not getting pin via obd because ignition not coming on.
Removed kessy, read 8 leg chip got precode and pin.
Programmed via AVDI.
Dealer key - yes
Transponder locked - yes
Key learnt - 2
Ecu responding - no
Engine start - no
Both remotes central locking are working but steering not unlocking and no lights on dash apart from “immobiliser active”.

I’ve spoken to a few ppl and they’re saying AVDI has corrupted kessy. So need Odis to flash and update.

Anyone can shed any light?
Thanks

[doolittle]

Hi all,
I’ve got an issue with a Vw Touareg.
07
Spare remote.
Programmed both keys (3D group and customers) using AVDI.
No keys in system, couldn't remember pin, AVDI not getting pin via obd because ignition not coming on.
Removed kessy, read 8 leg chip got precode and pin.
Programmed via AVDI.
Dealer key - yes
Transponder locked - yes
Key learnt - 2
Ecu responding - no
Engine start - no
Both remotes central locking are working but steering not unlocking and no lights on dash apart from “immobiliser active”.

I’ve spoken to a few ppl and they’re saying AVDI has corrupted kessy. So need Odis to flash and update.

Anyone can shed any light?
Thanks
Have you tried locking the drivers door with the mechanical key for 10 mins.

[Rito]

Did anyone try to change mileage in key at Audi A4 2012 or it need new key to be reseted.

I was try but is only possible increase KM. For decrease must renew key or make new key...

[Zeddy]

Have you tried locking the drivers door with the mechanical key for 10 mins.

Really?!
Never heard of that.
I’ll try in the morning
Thanks

[Fallen]

Really?!
Never heard of that.
I’ll try in the morning
Thanks

Doolittle is right, sometimes they take 10 mins to work again after programming.
Call your customer before you head back, its probably working now.

[Zeddy]

Doolittle is right, sometimes they take 10 mins to work again after programming.
Call your customer before you head back, its probably working now.

Defo not working atm. Did the job Sat...
was there for 3 hours.
Went back today after disconnecting battery last night, in the hope it may reset, no joy another hour at car trying different things.

Really hoping mechanical key trick will work. No idea which way to turn if it doesn’t.

[yugo45]

Defo not working atm. Did the job Sat...
was there for 3 hours.
Went back today after disconnecting battery last night, in the hope it may reset, no joy another hour at car trying different things.

Really hoping mechanical key trick will work. No idea which way to turn if it doesn’t.

Go with diagnostic and clear all codes in 05- Kessy while you have key in it .

[ps80l]

Any way to generate key from supervag bin file?

[gttuning]

Hi all.
Have a mini here with secondhand ecu...
Edc17c41
How can this be done with abrites.?.
I havent got the ori ecu.

So i have to readi ISN from ecu.is this by boot mode? Or can be done by obd.?
Thanks.

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[gttuning]

Hi all.
Have a mini here with secondhand ecu...
Edc17c41
How can this be done with abrites.?.
I havent got the ori ecu.

So i have to readi ISN from ecu.is this by boot mode? Or can be done by obd.?
Thanks.

Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkOk so i got that ecu programed...it was edc17c50 not c41
First conet engine ecu in boot mode.
Read password.next read dflash.when finish reading dflash press edit you will have isn from ecu.
Fit ecu back tp the car and writ that isn to cas3 by obd..
Car will start.

I also try to write Cas3 isn to ecu but car wont start that way.is that normal or software issue in abrites?
Thanks

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[gttuning]

Some pic.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180411/03da4a4157fbcffa53a4da79d06c8f90.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180411/48f1f279ae0459b77c3600a63f64b31f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180411/20085b63f75ee8047d3b4e66d2a62518.jpg

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[gttuning]

guys is VAG golf 2.0tdi ppd1.2 supported for pin cs by obd?
i try it but wont work.

[ps80l]

I guess Ventzy gave up...

[gttuning]

I guess Ventzy gave up...5 april last coment?.

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[lagaffe]

guys is VAG golf 2.0tdi ppd1.2 supported for pin cs by obd?
i try it but wont work.

hi,
have tried too, no success! I used other tool for this ecu.
++

[gttuning]

hi,
have tried too, no success! I used other tool for this ecu.
++

what do you use?

[lmqcatarino]

Hi,
Smart W450, customer have 2 remotes and both stop working.
Program again remotes, car starts now but remotes don't work.
Try program new remote, but same situation.
Any idea what is the problem?

[gttuning]

Seat leon 2014
MQB mileage worked ok ..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180416/dcb86f86b69a6af499688214735ccd88.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180416/dba259b5e35c035cd40128eee1a2a5cd.jpg

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[hollanda]

THEY don't mind about us costumers !
they only need to get our money money money money

Have you see the building in Sofia? Very beautiful! Someone needs to pay this......
10 years before they working with small old building and not mutch people, service was better and everytime update free!
Now needs every time to pay (like smok) and every year ams (for shit updates)

[ps80l]

Was looking to read password from Mercedes BE key. Could not find setting anywhere. Does abrites not have this feature found in all Chinese Benz programmers?

[PremierD]

Contact Customer relations department ... wait a minute , there isn't one .lol

[gttuning]

Have you see the building in Sofia? Very beautiful! Someone needs to pay this......
10 years before they working with small old building and not mutch people, service was better and everytime update free!
Now needs every time to pay (like smok) and every year ams (for shit updates)

please use this thread for technical problems,not how abrites manage to build the company office.
thanks

[hollanda]

please use this thread for technical problems,not how abrites manage to build the company office.
thanks

The point is;
why needs to pay again for it if you have active ams?
And you have right about technical problems, but on this forum also workers of abrites reading this and hope so they will think about this.
Avdi is a good tool only some bugs better fixing and the support.....

[ventzy]

look mate your still here because it benefits the members, that can change very quickly.

"Look mate", take it easy and just relax. Almost all comments from the admins as this one are completely irrelevant and useless! Go and change it very quickly then!

[ventzy]

This thread is a joke..
I am sorry for the guys who appreciate and have always appreciated all my efforts..

[PremierD]

One question ... how many people ( avdi users ) thank you for all the help you give on this thread.? it is usually a fair measure of how well you are doing at it .


'Almost all comments from the admins as this one are completely irrelevant and useless!'

Here is another useless comment .... Goodbye !!!!! :)

[obdsystems]

Contact Customer relations department ... wait a minute , there isn't one .lol


to be fair, non of them do.
And so what they are in a new building lols

admin stick to technical please like what you told us to do........

thanks

[gttuning]

So guys i have a job to do..
Lost keys in Bmw f10..never done it with avdi...
Would i need to read ISN from ecu or just cas4?
Thanks

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[PremierD]

:hmmmm:..................

[gttuning]

I know one thing Ventzy will not answer my questions .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180417/8646c3b35b45b4a0b1047214ce0632d3.jpg

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[whiskeyman]

nor do they fix the problems everyone here pointed out
just like the last clown that said and i quote.............................i answer all emails

gonna say one last time


ford ford ford ford ford ford

look into ford

yes

ford

cos its still dodgy as ~~~~ and the cheapo chinese tools dusting it

and how many guys here that have full ford still having to use the mvp..............loads i bet

heres a wee link to help you get your mind round which to concentrate your efforts on first
think bmw and merc well down the list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manufacturers_by_motor_vehicle_production

[anroedh]

Some ecu you can read isn by obd f serie only petrol


So guys i have a job to do..
Lost keys in Bmw f10..never done it with avdi...
Would i need to read ISN from ecu or just cas4?
Thanks

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[isma123]

I know one thing Ventzy will not answer my questions .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180417/8646c3b35b45b4a0b1047214ce0632d3.jpg

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MAYBE ALEK or wintesla will answer you ! :) 'dreaming

[gttuning]

Some ecu you can read isn by obd f serie only petrolThis one is edc17 so i think drill and boot mode.

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[Gavra]

some EDC17 can be done over obd......I've done series 1 MY2013 and read it over OBD easy......

[tunnel]

So guys i have a job to do..
Lost keys in Bmw f10..never done it with avdi...
Would i need to read ISN from ecu or just cas4?
Thanks

Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkHello, you have to read cas4 dump and isn.

Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk

[gttuning]

Hello, you have to read cas4 dump and isn.

Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando TapatalkJust pulled cas4 out and ecu aswell .
Isn from ecu only boot mode?or can avdi read through CAN.

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[tunnel]

Hello, I have to produce spare key for f31 bmw, when I try to link by avdi, it tells not supported.

[tunnel]

Wich type of ecu? Please write type

[anroedh]

You have to update or downgrade fem.


Hello, I have to produce spare key for f31 bmw, when I try to link by avdi, it tells not supported.

[anroedh]

With what tool you can read edc17 isn? AVDI only support E series and some petrol F series.

[obdsystems]

So guys i have a job to do..
Lost keys in Bmw f10..never done it with avdi...
Would i need to read ISN from ecu or just cas4?
Thanks

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk


That's CAS mate - now i'm still novice with BMW in lost keys way....


But my small recommendation is use a very good programmer such as XEP100 for CAS dump instead.
Unsure about CAS4 heard some not encrypted.

My personal view of AVDI is good for spare keys, not lost,
as BMW is (my personal view) tricky. Hear on DK/others even with autohex things go wrong.



Question fired back at you .... have you done spare keys for F20 (1 series). AVDI came up not supported :(

[gttuning]

That's CAS mate - now i'm still novice with BMW in lost keys way....


But my small recommendation is use a very good programmer such as XEP100 for CAS dump instead.
Unsure about CAS4 heard some not encrypted.

My personal view of AVDI is good for spare keys, not lost,
as BMW is (my personal view) tricky. Hear on DK/others even with autohex things go wrong.



Question fired back at you .... have you done spare keys for F20 (1 series). AVDI came up not supported :(Only think i have here is smok to read cas ...so far dose the job on cas3..ezs...and different motorolas hc12.
But i dont think i read cas4 with smok.
Around my place not to many bmw...so i didnt do any keys yet for F series.
So cant answer you question...

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[AlekN]

Since Ventzy got banned for helping I think it is high time for the powerful admins to ban me as well.

[anroedh]

522470

It works fine with cgdi f20 is fem, i have seen someone with same problem with avdi he change flash of fem and than did key programming on avdi.



That's CAS mate - now i'm still novice with BMW in lost keys way....


But my small recommendation is use a very good programmer such as XEP100 for CAS dump instead.
Unsure about CAS4 heard some not encrypted.

My personal view of AVDI is good for spare keys, not lost,
as BMW is (my personal view) tricky. Hear on DK/others even with autohex things go wrong.



Question fired back at you .... have you done spare keys for F20 (1 series). AVDI came up not supported :(

[PremierD]

Since Ventzy got banned for helping I think it is high time for the powerful admins to ban me as well.

Helping who mate ?.... sales .. his rep ?.. his bonus ...? was not for helping posters on this thread that's for sure ...

Just read his post and you should be able to work out why he's gone fishing .

So now you are the nominated problem solver ? knock yourself out mate help away I'm sure that your customers don't really care who answers their complaints .. as long as they get answered to their satisfaction . :)

[AlekN]

Do you need me to quote the people who wrote today to thank us for the support and effort DESPITE your best effort, now delete my posts and ban my account because I try to help. We will probably move to a civilized forum or just make our own. Delete this because we try to do what people need us to do because we work at Abrites and do not pay you to protect us. Is this the Russian Mafia or a technical forum?

[PremierD]

Who wrote to you to pat you on the back for a job well done concerns me .. or this forum not a jot mate .. This thread is what concerns me .. and the posters who try to illicit an answer to the concerns that they are continually posting .. now if you get a minute qu0te me all the contented people on this thread .. I mean they are your customers .. not mine .


PS. may well be the Russian mafia .... lol

[isma123]

Do you need me to quote the people who wrote today to thank us for the support and effort DESPITE your best effort, now delete my posts and ban my account because I try to help. We will probably move to a civilized forum or just make our own. Delete this because we try to do what people need us to do because we work at Abrites and do not pay you to protect us. Is this the Russian Mafia or a technical forum?


kapdiag forum was official avdi forum , then everybody ask costumers to pay pay paaaaaaayy


we sometimes feel like being rapped ! who's the mafia ?

THE one that give you some drug for free and when you became addict you need to pay high price for some oz

is this russian mafia ? yakuza ?


lol lol lol alek you'r a nice guy , go forward and make your own forum like in kapdiag where people complaining got banned :)

[whiskeyman]

this is the only real forum out there
where people can say it how it is..................
and if the sellers dont like it

either fix or move on

we will find tools to suit our needs one way or the other
with or without abrities

the we are no1 in the world thing................think that ship has sailed

bye bye AleKn
thanks for all those supposed things you fixed

next.........

[Fallen]

Kap diagnostics forum was set up to be the official AVDI forum.
Anybody looked at it recently? Its a freeking ghost town.

There was a lot of activity at the start but then they started banning members who questioned the product or complained about functions not working.
It died within about 3 or 4 months.

Pretty much a case study on how not to run a forum.