commando 10d help please?

[chroma]

Hello there, im certain that im missing something entirely stupid here but cant for the life of me figure it out.

Recently flashed over commando 10d on to a sagem 2x and its all up and running to a degree, however some channels are missing and some are not...
For instance i can recieve just about every movie channel, sky1 to 3, several other encrypted channels.

However discovery channels refuse to work, thinking it was possibly a key issue ive left it overnight on discovery hoping for an update, no joy there.

Move on to the usual "the end users an idiot" tech support mentality and rechecked everything ive ftp'd

/var/keys/
AutoRoll.key
autoupdate.key
camd_cfg
camd3.config
constantcw
ecmoverride
keylist
keylist.txt
mappings
mg_cfg
nagra
nagraepr7.bin
nagraram7.bin
nagrarom7.bin
rsakeylist
SoftCam.key
strom.bin

/var/bin/emu/
evocamd
mgcamd

And out of desperation updated /lib/ libcrypto.so.0.9.7

chmod 755 to cams and crypto

so now i get half of the encrypted channels but not all...
Anyone have any ideas where i may be going wrong?
im rapidly loosing hair on this end.

[scubar]

could be a signal strength issue mate, as far as i understand some of the lesser watched channels use less bandwidth and aren't as strong as sly spurts 1 for example. remove any splitters connect direct to the wall and check all connections. i remember once being baffled at something similar having ensured i'd transfered everything correctly, chomod etc realised my cable feed was hanging half out!!

[chroma]

LOL now that ive looked through all the channels im not recieving the signal bars are all at rock bottom (255) and signal to noise rato is through the roof (63951) however if i downgrade to commando 10c and have a look things are fine :/

[scubar]

ummmm odd!!! bad flash??

[MetMan]

LOL now that ive looked through all the channels im not recieving the signal bars are all at rock bottom (255) and signal to noise rato is through the roof (63951) however if i downgrade to commando 10c and have a look things are fine :/

snr has to be over 55000 to clear a channel 63951 is v good....what area r u?

whats on the screen to prob channels - just blank or error message?

[chroma]

telewest glasgow (dumbarton)

Screen is just blank, which lead me to believe that there was a cypher problem rather than signal issue, however there is the odd "squelch" for those old enough to remember 70s internet

channels that are shafted since update: channel [bar strength 1.0 =full .25 =quarter etc]
alibi [.5]
alibi+1 [.25]
bravo [.5]
bravo+1 [.5]
bravo2 [.75]
challenge [.5]
dmax [.75]
dave [.90]
dave+1 [50]
eden [1.0]
five usa [.50]
fiver [.25]
g.o.l.d [.175]
g.o.l.d+1 [.75]
itv4 [.75]
living [.95]
living+1 [1.0]
living 2 [.95]
more 4 [.95]
sci fi [1.0]
trouble [.25]
paramount comedy [.75]

etc etc (checking through every one would have me here for hours)

Now the wierd thing is, channels i can get more often than not have worse signals than channels i cannot, the only difference in the signals is the BER rate which tends to average around 8 for channels i do recieve and flatline at 0 for channels i dont.

couple this with the fact that on 10c the only problem was the epg and nothing to do with channel reception and it has me completely stummped.

How exactly does the tuner work? is it hardware or is it software? anyone know? could the cams have an issue? for instance if i enable both evo (2.17) and mg (n/a) everythings fine, enable evo only and everythings good, enable mg only and im back to only fta only...

I should also note that im recieving a bitrate for every channel wether its blank or not averaging around 4000kbit/s (16:9 broadcasts) and 2000kbit/s (4:3)

[MetMan]

whats ur snr on blank channel?

is this a new (scan) service file or did u transfer a working one over?

all feeds ok? check the antennae connection when showing snr on duff channel and gently move the fplug connector see if the snr increases

[chroma]

random dead channel : DMAX
Bit error:
MAX 1
AVE 0
MIN 0

SNR:
MAX 64072
AVE 63980
MIN 63709

SIG:
MAX 255
AVE 255
MIN 255

Bitrate:
MAX 5482
AVE 4101
MIN 1131

As im typing this up and monitoring that channel its definately trying, i get the occasional squelched phrase (audio only)

Random working channel : e4+1
Bit Error:
MAX 13
AVE 6
MIN 0

SNR:
MAX 64300
AVE 64171
MIN 64078

SIG:
MAX 241
AVE 240
MIN 239

Bitrate:
MAX 5341
AVE 2135
MIN 1610


Its brand new full scan, thats tv, radio and services

As for the feed, fplug on one end is perfect and ive just bolted an rf to the coax on the other instead of converting fplug to rf.
Ive even soldered the thing on to cut down on the attenuation profile and make sure the connection isnt going to arc. multimeter shows its rock solid.

Now if i reflash over to commando 10c and rescan then all the channels work flawlessly with the glitchy epg
Im completely at a loss.

[chroma]

LOL seems commando 10d flashed with USE SPTS MODE defaulted to ON

This is what was causing the headache, turning it off via dbox settings/driver & boot settings resulted in everything deciding to wisen its act up and actualy work.

dear god a 14hr headache over a simple option toggle.

Its all working nicely now, so if anyone else has a problem, make sure that spts mode is OFF.

Thanks for attempting to help however MetMan, im much obliged.

[MetMan]

random dead channel : DMAX
Bit error:
MAX 1
AVE 0
MIN 0

SNR:
MAX 64072
AVE 63980
MIN 63709

SIG:
MAX 255
AVE 255
MIN 255

Bitrate:
MAX 5482
AVE 4101
MIN 1131

As im typing this up and monitoring that channel its definately trying, i get the occasional squelched phrase (audio only)

Random working channel : e4+1
Bit Error:
MAX 13
AVE 6
MIN 0

SNR:
MAX 64300
AVE 64171
MIN 64078

SIG:
MAX 241
AVE 240
MIN 239

Bitrate:
MAX 5341
AVE 2135
MIN 1610


Its brand new full scan, thats tv, radio and services

As for the feed, fplug on one end is perfect and ive just bolted an rf to the coax on the other instead of converting fplug to rf.
Ive even soldered the thing on to cut down on the attenuation profile and make sure the connection isnt going to arc. multimeter shows its rock solid.

Now if i reflash over to commando 10c and rescan then all the channels work flawlessly with the glitchy epg
Im completely at a loss.

if u transfer the service and bouquet files from the 10c onto the 10d - still get the problem.....

edit: i just flashed over 10d - i must have been lucky spts is off .....normally u only get a crackling sound when switching channel if u use ucode 001A with spts on

least its sorted....