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  • jeffo1985
    Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 54

    #16
    Originally posted by gmb45
    just a thought if ireland cable works exactly the same as uk cable the code breakers will have something to work on, thoughts any one ?
    thats what we're all hoping

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    • satman
      V.I.P. Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 736

      #17
      Originally posted by Ruggerplumber
      No mate not serious, just a bit of irony and I do feel for them, but you know all good things come to an end, just looks like sooner rather than later.
      Why?,, we heard the rumours for a while.
      We knew ireland was a definite upgrade for a while.
      no actual news about uk ,,,, yet,,
      so why worry now when ireland 'in the shit' ?
      boom!

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      • bugaloo41
        V.I.P. Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 1598

        #18
        Agree with Satman.

        The n3 roll out in Ireland has been planned for months. Its no surprise that it has come. Its taken longer than i think they had anticipated but thats unremarkable for projects in the uk and ireland.

        I could be wrong but i still think the uk, as a whole, is a while away from n3. There will need to be replacement cards for all and replacement boxes for many. That will be expensive. Its money vm dont have. They are not naive enough to believe that customers, who are not paying top dollar just now, will automatically stay with them if and when n3 is rolled out.

        Said it for years now enjoy it while it lasts. Everyone will have had their moneys worth so you cant complain.

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        • andy57
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 56

          #19
          doomed

          in the words of private Frazer '' were all doomed''

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          • lincsat
            DK Veteran
            • Jun 2008
            • 1228

            #20
            VM announced some time ago that they will switch to an IP based delivery system over the next few years - I doubt they will bother with a switch to N3 in the meantime.

            Even if they do change, they would have to issue new viewing cards to all their legit subscribers, this is not a quick job. As we have seen when Sky does a card change, the whole process takes 3 Months or so - and there is no sign yet of this process starting anytime soon.

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            • Troyman
              Newbie
              • Mar 2009
              • 1

              #21
              Originally posted by satman
              Why?,, we heard the rumours for a while.
              We knew ireland was a definite upgrade for a while.
              no actual news about uk ,,,, yet,,
              so why worry now when ireland 'in the shit' ?
              You have a bad attitude, it's Ireland now but the UK will be in the shit "as you put it" sooner or later.

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              • gmb45

                #22
                Originally posted by Troyman
                You have a bad attitude, it's Ireland now but the UK will be in the shit "as you put it" sooner or later.
                it will be later rather than sooner

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                • satman
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 736

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Troyman
                  You have a bad attitude, it's Ireland now but the UK will be in the shit "as you put it" sooner or later.
                  I really dont,,,, i want Ireland fixed as much as anyone..
                  Can only personally fix the ones I write images for.... but always do my best to stop some 'being in the shit' as i called it.
                  Great first post...
                  boom!

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                  • andymc1s
                    DK Veteran
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 694

                    #24
                    Originally posted by satman
                    I really dont,,,, i want Ireland fixed as much as anyone..
                    Can only personally fix the ones I write images for.... but always do my best to stop some 'being in the shit' as i called it.
                    Great first post...
                    I am in Ireland and appreciate your efforts satman:
                    Thank You

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                    • cactikid
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 12017

                      #25
                      Originally posted by satman
                      I really dont,,,, i want Ireland fixed as much as anyone..
                      Can only personally fix the ones I write images for.... but always do my best to stop some 'being in the shit' as i called it.
                      Great first post...
                      hey satman where can i send a box of mars bars and a slab of red bull to keep ya at it

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                      • jeffo1985
                        Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 54

                        #26
                        Does any1 think n3 will be hacked within 6 months- 1 year when britain gets hit with it aswell because no joke up to at least 5 million dodge(maybe more) boxes will be pretty much dead.Can you imagine the demand for a crack there will be??Any thoughts Any1

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                        • gmb45

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jeffo1985
                          Does any1 think n3 will be hacked within 6 months- 1 year when britain gets hit with it aswell because no joke up to at least 5 million dodge(maybe more) boxes will be pretty much dead.Can you imagine the demand for a crack there will be??Any thoughts Any1
                          it will be hacked m8 probably quicker than u think bet they working on it now

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                          • satman
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 736

                            #28
                            Originally posted by cactikid
                            hey satman where can i send a box of mars bars and a slab of red bull to keep ya at it
                            P.O Box Satman
                            Scotland


                            Originally posted by gmb45
                            it will be hacked m8 probably quicker than u think bet they working on it now
                            From experiance you may be having a little optimistic thinking...
                            n3 is no easy fix,,, you may think yeh uk has looads o boxes,
                            But common mate,,, how many boxes in Germany , Spain and Portugal do you think there are?, ( please remember Germany the home of dreambox,,,,,, spain the home of taquilaa, and portugal the home of Cabo )...
                            If the cards could bu unloooper or glitched by an amatuer it would have been done in one these countrys long ago.
                            And,,, to really sound depressing, there all still black some more than a year later.
                            Sorry,, my bad attitude kicked in again ::
                            boom!

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                            • kevinly
                              Newbie
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5

                              #29
                              Apologies for a very newbish post.

                              But what exactly is the current story in Ireland? I know people in the Dublin City area with NTL who had engineers out putting in a new cable and the Eurovox Max box went straight away, the orginal NTL box works with the existing card. They have a letter saying new NTL cards will be shipped out shortly.

                              I'm in the North County of Dublin on what used to be called the chorus and my Dreambox is still working as usual however I am missing some channels (Adult) but the BBC1 seems to come and go as well. Setanta ireland is poxy too.

                              My question is, are NTL using Nagra 2 at the moment and are very shortly upgrading all channels to Nagra 3? Will my box stop working very shortly but this has a potential fix (nagra 2) but sometime in the future nagra 3 will come in and for that we can't expect a fix?

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                              • bumble
                                Top Poster
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 141

                                #30
                                hi,,

                                Nag3 is different, there are 2 keys or CW's included in the ECM to the receiver. One goes to the card and the other goes to the receiver itself.


                                N3 cards are no more secure then N1 or N2. It's the way N3 works, that make far superior than either N1 or N2. So while N3 cards are "worked around" and you can get a dump of the CW's and ECM's you only have half of the equations because you have to be able to process the receivers CW's. Here is the problem running emulation files,,

                                bumble
                                Last edited by satsmo; 28 March, 2009, 17:19. Reason: Removed CS quote

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