Nagra 3 Really Is Here (smoking gun)

[tamgunner]

how do you access the card info?

[tony_i]

Since Leeds is the supposed test area for this have we no members from Leeds who could post up a photo of the N3 stream under channel info????

What would constitute proof of an "N3 stream"?

[McMav]

well in ireland when they had n2 and n3 running alongside n1

you had 1800
1802
1803 streams atm I can only see 1800 in glasgow area

[tony_i]

well in ireland when they had n2 and n3 running alongside n1

you had 1800
1802
1803 streams atm I can only see 1800 in glasgow area

In that case I can tell you that there is no N3 stream running.

Streams that are running in the Leeds area have been discussed on this site before.

I don't think anyone has ever, anywhere, suggested that N3 was running in Leeds.

[sivhead]

Nagra 3 has deffo been cracked. goodfta have released an update for the viewsat recievers. So it can be done. Whether the UK hacking scene will be as quick who knows. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. It gives me a great excuse to get a huge dish on the side of the house Woopeee.....

[satsmo]

In that case I can tell you that there is no N3 stream running.

Streams that are running in the Leeds area have been discussed on this site before.

I don't think anyone has ever, anywhere, suggested that N3 was running in Leeds.

Yes they have been discussed here already and some logs were posted, here is another :

ECM: CaID: 0x1841 -> CaPID: 0x1623 ProvID: 000000 ==|
ECM: CaID: 0x1800 -> CaPID: 0x192F ProvID: 000000 ==|
EMM: CaID: 0x1841 -> CaPID: 0x0081 ProvID: 000000 ==|
EMM: CaID: 0x1800 -> CaPID: 0x0080 ProvID: 000000 ==|

How are you logging the stream Tony?

[MalteseMick]

I've just bought 10 dreamboxes which I have distributed around my extended family. I'm thinking of doing a card share once/if this happens - anyone know where to start with this kinda thing? Also how many people can I get using one card?

cheers

[bumble]

I've just bought 10 dreamboxes which I have distributed around my extended family. I'm thinking of doing a card share once/if this happens - anyone know where to start with this kinda thing? Also how many people can I get using one card?

cheers

hi,,

"cs" or IKS is NOT supported in any which way or form on this forum

bumble

[tony_i]

Yes they have been discussed here already and some logs were posted, here is another :

ECM: CaID: 0x1841 -> CaPID: 0x1623 ProvID: 000000 ==|
ECM: CaID: 0x1800 -> CaPID: 0x192F ProvID: 000000 ==|
EMM: CaID: 0x1841 -> CaPID: 0x0081 ProvID: 000000 ==|
EMM: CaID: 0x1800 -> CaPID: 0x0080 ProvID: 000000 ==|

How are you logging the stream Tony?

I can also see that there is 1841 running alongside 1800 on my system.

I haven't seen anything that convinces me that it's N3 though; certainly not according to McMav's definition, anyway.

As I discussed elsewhere on here, when 1841 started it put an end to my using V1.7 on the SV4. (I now have a linux box.)

[tony_i]

Here's my stream info for an encrypted channel:

Used Crypto Systems: 1800h: Kudelski SA, 1841h: Kudelski SA

[satsmo]

How are you logging the stream? Are you just using the PID info from your new box? (EDIT cheers for the info).

1841 is Kuldelski and the card is ROM 180, as you seen from the ATR string on another thread. The only way of getting info is by people logging the stream, the CaID is new but I can guarantee it's in not N1 or N2, maybe a hybrid.

ROM 180 will tell you it is Nagra 3 similar to D+ in Spain.The core is atmel rather than ST on previous cards.

No customers as far as I know have received any new cards and as such these are trial results at an early stage. Where they come from I wouldn't hazard a guess.

[tony_i]

Anyone (including V employees) can post a load of numbers up and say it's a card reading.
Like you say, no one's seen a card.

And I haven't spoken to one regular, full-sub-paying V customer who has a clue that there are new cards on the way. Not one.

Is there a way to link to the new card tutorial video from V's main homepage? If there is, they're certainly not making it easy. I haven't found it (not that I've tried all that hard).

Is that tutorial video showing on channels available to normal V subscribers? I certainly haven't seen it?

I'm not saying that it's not about to happen but I've certainly seen no evidence to convince me.

It wouldn't surprise me at ll if V have decided to throw ten grand at an attempt to ruin the Christmas market.

[satsmo]

The new CaID isnt there for no reason, the logs have come from trusted sources, so I do not doubt them, but that is my opinion and others may.

I said no "customers" have seen a card.

Yes you can get to the tutorial via the main page. Bottom right select installation information.

They do not throw money at an advertisement campaign and a bogus CaID believe me.

[tony_i]

I doubt they'd see the money as thrown away, given the mileage they've got from it.

The CaID could possibly be there for any number of testing purposes. A minimal cost in the grand scheme of things, I'm sure.

Even if you know and trust the source who has read the card, where did the card come from? Who leaked it?

That's me finished anyway. I'm starting to spend as much time on this as the rumour mongers and the gullible. I'm starting to bore myself.

[satsmo]

Now you see where it gets boring without definitive answers. Rumour mongers and gullible as you call them are part and parcel of forum life.

Time and some work usually answers questions that are too early to ask.