500c - Card Sharing

**Bulld0g** · 31 December, 2009, 00:33

It's a linux box so probably. Although i wouldn't touch cable cardsharing with a shitty stick TBH

**Bonesy** · 31 December, 2009, 09:20

Yes, cable cardshare is possible. I know a site which is testing for UK & Ireland now, dont think they are ready yet though.

**john8867** · 31 December, 2009, 12:11

Why would u not touch it mate?

**Curious123** · 31 December, 2009, 13:10

Originally posted by john8867

Why would u not touch it mate?

Cardsharing requires an internet connection and anyone who has cable tv will probably be using cable BB so the cable company will easily be able to trace the culprits through the ip & mac addresses.

**Bulld0g** · 31 December, 2009, 13:15

Plus everyone else on that server.Also the VM box has talkback dreambox doesn't. So why would you pay for a subscription and not use it.It would arouse suspicions and they could just check your BB connection.

**2tone** · 31 December, 2009, 16:08

Cant see why people keep going on about getting traced if this was the case do you not think all the people sharing s$k cards using s$k internet would be cought and if thats the case why not set the share up on an adsl lan nothing to do with cable also if this was to happen you would find people would drop virgin bb right away look what went on over sky1 how many walked over that there are ways to do things so servers dont stand out keep to that and most people will be ok, also people have been using cloned modems for a long time and got away with it always ways round things

**opsmonkey** · 31 December, 2009, 16:28

lifted elsewhere..

i personally wouldn't use CS on cable.. its a closed network for one..

measures of detection have already been put in place called GRC scripting or audit analytics making it very easy to detect a none subscription receiver because of the service on a closed network

many people forget that CS means card sharing.. what are you going to share..??
I wouldn't be sharing my XL package when I don't get anything in return..

**2tone** · 31 December, 2009, 17:01

well true but how many receivers are there on there network at the min that are not there own too many to start talking about the only way i can see c/s being done for cable is for people that are going to set big c/s servers up to make money, some people might only want to use there cable card in there own receiver as they dont like the cable receivers nothing wrong with that might even want to split the cost with some family members this dose happen in sat servers alot, also would you share your xl sub on to a server thinking you are getting a good thing when the person that runs the server dose not even have a card in local and is only using your card to make money would you then share if you knew that only a thought as there is members on a lot of these forums doing this

**flyingpig** · 31 December, 2009, 19:52

Theres a good reason to card share. If you have a valid sub you can share it around your home and you would not be breaking any law.

So if you have a dreambox in each room, why cant you share that sub to each room in your house, as the subscription is for the address not the living room.

Card sharing is legal, and all avenues should be explored. I think it would be well cheaper to have one valid sub and share it around your home and miss out on the catch up and other bits..

**Bulld0g** · 31 December, 2009, 19:56

Originally posted by flyingpig

Theres a good reason to card share. If you have a valid sub you can share it around your home and you would not be breaking any law.

So if you have a dreambox in each room, why cant you share that sub to each room in your house, as the subscription is for the address not the living room.

Card sharing is legal, and all avenues should be explored. I think it would be well cheaper to have one valid sub and share it around your home and miss out on the catch up and other bits..

Card sharing is legal , Are you sure m8 ? I don't think it is.

**flyingpig** · 31 December, 2009, 20:00

If you share with other people or sell it (secondary selling rights) no its not legal, but if you buy a valid legal subscription, what is to stop you sharing that around your own home?

You own that valid sub. You can share it with yourself. If you dont have a box in another VM box in another room that is just a technicality, but knowing what I know with cable anyone would be hard pushed to even get close to any form of conviction.

And please dont tell me about the man in liverpool, totally different kettle of fish.

**opsmonkey** · 31 December, 2009, 20:04

Originally posted by flyingpig

Theres a good reason to card share. If you have a valid sub you can share it around your home and you would not be breaking any law.

So if you have a dreambox in each room, why cant you share that sub to each room in your house, as the subscription is for the address not the living room.

Card sharing is legal, and all avenues should be explored. I think it would be well cheaper to have one valid sub and share it around your home and miss out on the catch up and other bits..

.. yeah really legal.. do it and let virgin know.. it wont be breaking any rules or terms of service..

oh yeah and on satellite its dead legal too.. tell sky.. they wont mind.. its not what they have multiroom for..

its not YOUR card to share.. it belongs to virgin / sky and they have the rights to it.. its their intellectual property ..

to use someone's intellectual property without their permission in a way they do not intend is ILLEGAL.. FACT

id love to see you in a courtroom

**Bulld0g** · 31 December, 2009, 20:05

Originally posted by flyingpig

If you share with other people or sell it (secondary selling rights) no its not legal, but if you buy a valid legal subscription, what is to stop you sharing that around your own home?

You own that valid sub. You can share it with yourself. If you dont have a box in another VM box in another room that is just a technicality, but knowing what I know with cable anyone would be hard pushed to even get close to any form of conviction.

And please dont tell me about the man in liverpool, totally different kettle of fish.

WTF are you on about ? The OP asked a question and was answered. Let's be upfront about this. No one was EVER talking about sharing a card in your own home. It was always about sharing a server. So let's stick to the topic. So tell me about this man in Liverpool who sells fish from a kettle ?

**flyingpig** · 31 December, 2009, 20:12

Originally posted by opsmonkey

id love to see you in a courtroom

Come and watch me at work then??

Seriously I am 99% sure there is case law recently in Italy there has been a case where you can not be stopped from using 3rd party recievers.

I know it was in Italy but case law exists across the boundaries of europe.

I know terms of service exist with Sky about use of the card and the reciever its used in, not sure about VM, but just because its there, does not in any way mean that it is legal. FACT.

They sell multi room to make more money. Again they are exploiting a loop hole in their unfair terms of service.

I wouldnt phone them up and tell them as that would just be stupid.

Bulldog -- Apologies for being off topic I ownt post again in this thread.

500c - Card Sharing

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