hack for N3 , is it legit ?

[jumpinjo]

as I haven't a clue who you are maybe you could enlighten me on why you made that statement.

i heard from a one legged blind unicyclist that he loves getting slated and ripped to death and called every name under the sun so i try to oblige him whenever i get chance

[jack the kipper]

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hi if u read all the posts on the techwatch site abt this uwill see its a load of balls

[dctyper]

guys, providing a splitter can read the mediaguard card and the eurovox can accept it, this method would work. it would deffo work in a dbox or dreambox providing you have a cam. the one flaw is the second vm card? i dont see why that would come in to it? splitters have been used for a long time.

dc

[pomster]

my pal has a dbox 2 hooked up to his sly dish an gets most channels i thought he was cs but to my amazement he wasnt ,then at his request his neighbour came in and invited me to his hose to see his set up ,it was the same no cs.i am going to see my pal at the weekend ,i will be getting him to write down exactly how they doo it.

No c/s! let us know what there up to when you go round!

[dogsdinner]

Originally Posted by sauravojha
step 1 , there is a card slot on eurovox max- black. currently its empty as software is doing the rest of the work.as we know that vm has changed to n3 we have no other alternative then to use a n3 card with the same clone rate as the new ones.

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Yeh, I think we all know that. Not sure what you mean by clone rate though - clock rate possibly ?

If you do mean clock rate then it doesn't really matter what rate you clock them at. The card has its own independant internal clock for the processor (15-20Mhz) that you cant alter. The ingoing ISOclk to the card controls only the communication rate, nothing else. You can run this at 3.68Mhz if you want nice baud rates but it will run anywhere from about 2Mhz to 6.5Mhz. The VM boxes themselves run the cards at various different rates between about 3.5Mhz and 5Mhz.

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step 2- now closely look to the channels it will clearly says scrambled but you cant get the picture ...yes why? this is because vm have only changed the encryption cycle on the new cards so although your channels are scrambled to your box ur box will not be able to read the symbol rate as this has been transferred to the chip section in your new vm card.before all were thrown at once but now they are divided as soon as it reaches the box . this is beacuse they have used Mediaguard SECA 2 encryption.good news is that the vm have not fully adopted the n3 encryption all they have done is split the symbolrate for a box and the chip in the card.(clever huh)

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I'm afraid thats total bull written by someone who has no understanding of what a TV smartcard does. There is no symbol rates involved in anything as far as the card is concerned. Symbol rates are the strict domain of the stb demodulator section.

MediaGuard SECA2 has never been used on UK cable. It has always been exclusively Kudelski Nagravision. It was N1, now it's a version of N3. Simple as that. The version of N3 that is being used is the latest dsigned for use with both standard channels and the very new IPTV system. The recent CAM change to the box loaded the new Kudelski cam CAK code which is a very full implementation on N3. Ther is no half measure - the cam on UK cable boxes can now handle N1, N2 an full N3 !!!

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its just too expensive to change over. The decryption unit is either integrated into a receiver,chipped card or available as a conditional access module (CAM), or as one of many encryption schemes supported on a CAM emulator.

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Sorry, but it has been changed. As I said above the integrated CAM code within the stb receivers has been fully updated to the very latest Kudelski code. It is fully N3 compliant. The new cards are Rom180's as used for 2 years or so in various parts of Spain These are full N3 processing units (as most people understand the term N3 - Kudelski dont actually call it N3)

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so here is how we beat it .

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Ok, do tell !

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remember the vm card you got? yes now you need to phone them and ask them for another card saying that you never received it by post. once you do that wait until the new ones arrive . now you must use a splitter and have a eurovox box and vm box attached to it. insert the card to vm box and the one which you had (the one you told them you never received it)to the eurovox . please note one of the card will obviously not work as that would have been cancel by vm before issuing you with the new one but that don't matter as the chip in the old card will still have the delay mechanism used by n3 working . let the vm update the channels ...in eurovox do a power scan ..there you go

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eh what ???

The card in the Eurovox will do nothing as it will be de-activated pretty sharpish. It certainly wont produce valid decryption cw's. Even if it had valid and in date tiers it still wouldn't pair to the Eurovox so would refuse to do anything anyway.

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it was stupid of vm to split the access system as it can be practically broken by image processing algorithms that rearrange the lines of a eld based on statistical properties of typical TV images.
erm, no. I think somebody has been reading a very old copy of the Markus Kuhn book on analog scrambling methods. With analog it was possible to do statistical analysis but with digital encryption its practically impossible to do such a thing.

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Still not quite sure what you mean by split the system. I'm guessing what you mean is that the N1 stream is still transmitted after a system goes to N3. Thats true, but its only for a small amount of time. Thats called simulcrypt and is standard practice in a card swap situation.

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With some knowledge about the limitations of the scrambling hard-
ware one can reconstruct the scrambled TV image in real-time without
knowledge of the cryptographic secret stored in the subscriber smart-
card.

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As I say, you've been reading too much very old analogue info. You cannot do this with digital encryption, certainly not in real time anyway.

pulled from another site,the response by the clued up "Coder",dont be scammed

[maxi1968]

thats why i said wait until it has been proven ,im not so sure it would work how can a deactivated card allow you to watch tv .would you need 2 cards that were active to make this work?and would it really be possible for a vm card to work in a non vm box personally i doubt it.

[prawny007]

got channels back thanks 4 the info

[jumpinjo]

hi if u read all the posts on the techwatch site abt this uwill see its a load of balls

why would we wanna go and read post on mentioned when we can read about the $hit on here

[fredmeek]

I tend to agree with "smirnoff-rules" ( he thinks that VM switched this user back to ng1 )but is it possible for "southpaw" to get an update from his source (find out if the signal from VM went back to being scrambled)

[red devil]

my pal has a dbox 2 hooked up to his sly dish an gets most channels i thought he was cs but to my amazement he wasnt ,then at his request his neighbour came in and invited me to his hose to see his set up ,it was the same no cs..

everyone seems to have missed what you said here !!!
most $ky channels on a dbox via satellite ???

what you are suggesting is that $ky has been hacked
i would look closer at the boxes m8, either a legit card in them or its on cardshare

[avnilaulakh]

got channels back thanks 4 the info

how did you get them to work