VM Crackdown, no box is safe !

[chongsparks]

A very good friend of mine who's wife works for VM has told me to turn off my box on moday night a leave it off for at least 2 weeks, VM have a new system thats costing them thousands to run (hence the 2 weeks) and they can detect any box recieving none paid channels.

I know the boxes dont talk back etc, but believe me they know when they do an area sweep. Ive been told that some area's are up and running now and they have prosecuted loads.

Sheffield is starting on tueday and will last for two weeks.

I said that my box doesn't talkback and i was told this doesn't matter while they are sweeping the area they will find you.
I was also told it will still find you even if you have VM box attached with card in and a splitter to your illegal box.

Has anyone else heard this ???

[caveman_nige]

I have not heard of this but I am sure we would all like to know more. Did she say the box needs to disconnected from the coax or just powered down?

[smokey_jnr]

have not heard anything.. keep us posted if you hear anything else though..!

[biff2005]

ive not heard anything m8, but will watchout for more info on this...

[chongsparks]

She just said that it needs to be unplugged. Not sure if that means just thew power or coax aswell. I know that my box will be fully removed, better to be safe that sorry.

I dont have information on what days different areas will be sweeped though. I will try and find out more.

BTW anyone who thinks this ais just a rumour through VM offices, its not, she is part of the crackdown team and is working alsong side the police.

This is first class info

[belfastdaren]

please

if you could find out if this applies to northern ireland please
not sure how they could tell if a box was plugged in and left on a free channel like bbc 1 etc
thanks for the heads up

[dctyper]

and how do they intend on doing this impossible thing? Yawn!

[chongsparks]

I have no idea, mock all you want, im only letting others know what a very good friend of mine has told me, They would have no reason to lie to me.

Have you ever thought that they could transmit a spoof signal and see what nuber of boxes recieve it and how many bounce back, that could be done for every street since it will take 2 week to cover just my city alone.

Maybe an engineer will be sent out to every box on the street ( outdoor main panel at end of street ) and run tests from there. Like i said, its costing them thousands to do just for my area alone so think of the nationwide cost of it. Do you really think they will spend all this money when they wont find ~~~~all.
People are being charged in other cities right now for this, so it does work and the equipment that was found in the homes were dreamboxes/ eurovox etc etc. All with no-talkback

[dctyper]

every box recieves every signal, its down to the programming if it displays it. i was thinking this with the fraud channel, so i deleted it. even though i cant access it, i am still recieving it. and this will be with legit boxes too.

im not mocking you, its just ive heard this hundreds of times but no one ever tells me how its going to be done! your friend is doing what any jelous person would do, scare you.

if it were possible, scanning my home with any electronic device without my permission would not be advisable me thinks. without a warrant the evidence would not stand.

[satsmo]

Lets keep this civil folks. I am all up for debate on the matter. But simple case is mis-information is also used to good affect by them.

If they are dependent on signal leakage, this can be caused not only by other STBs. There is ground loop interference, unterminated taps and household RF sockets, normal coaxial RF leakage caused by bad terminations. The list goes on and on.

Other than this machine walking into your house pointing out the "other" STBs and then ringing the CC, thats the only way it could do it. Thats not mocking as I just dont do that to anyone here or on any forum. Its a fact that entry is still required.

If people remember back to last year there was a similar story. You dont think they tell their employees these things so they just keep it to themselves.

As I said I will let this run, but only if it is contained as a civilised discussion.

[chongsparks]

Trust me there not jelous, They are as much free tv as the rest of us on here, TBH they even do sly ccam etc, Thats how i got into the cable/sat hobby.

Im a sparky and my mate is a plasterer. his wife has been put on the team at VM to crackdown on this and told him to let us all at work know and to unplug our equipment for two weeks starting monday night.

Unless the bosses at VM are conning the staff to think they are doing something there not, then this is true.

[dctyper]

ok, ask them how its done.

[wooper]

I have no knowledge of how cable detection works, I do recall the story last year of clampdowns etc.

If a signal is entering your house via a wire, I plug that wire into, say, a flashed kryptview. How can anyone tell if I'm watching sky sports??

Does anyone know how this would be done? with no talkback on my box???

Does viewing it make the general signal for the street/area weaker?

Then divide subscribers in the street by signal degredation???

I dont know.

[satsmo]

I have answered the question to a point.

[wooper]

ok, you have done, ta.

Think what I'm trying to say is what you have said.

SHort of someone monitering my house, or each house in the uk, is this possible??