VM Crackdown, no box is safe !

[chongsparks]

Leave the thread open if you wish, i dont mind, everyone has there own opinion at the end of the day and i realy hope that it is false information that i have been told, just a scare tactic from VM. But on the other hand nobody will know for now until a few weeks is over.

I've told you all what i have been told That has come from a member of the sweep team which they believe to be true.

Believe it or not, its up to you all to be carefull or not.

Thankyou all for reading my posts and for all your opinions.

CS

[caveman_nige]

You are right Sadiq, but I am gonna wait for news of people getting nicked in droves before i go off line... hard core....

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

Leave the thread open if you wish, i dont mind, everyone has there own opinion at the end of the day and i realy hope that it is false information that i have been told, just a scare tactic from VM. But on the other hand nobody will know for now until a few weeks is over.

I've told you all what i have been told That has come from a member of the sweep team which they believe to be true.

Believe it or not, its up to you all to be carefull or not.

Thankyou all for reading my posts and for all your opinions.

CS

it was a opinion for ur well being m8

[thered]

i think chongsparks made a fair point he posted what he had heard and decided to share it there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion

i think if anyone else hears any different stories they should not be afraid to air their views you never know somebodys warning one day might save someone the next

[alunfennell]

Just out of curiousity, how would they know the difference between using broadband and using a STB as they are the same line, what happens if 3 or 4 pc's are connected to the same line as the STB, can they tell they difference at all ???

Because normaly its one router per the House the bandwith would be split by 3-4 or how ever many computers you have connected to the router, same would go for the SET TOP BOXES used by the cabel company as there is a voltage passed threw the cable (copper Cable) they can measure the draw from the recievers in a neighbourhood and estamate how many none subscribers are receiving there service.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

oh well.. if it happens it happens if it doesnt then it doesnt but no flaming at Chngsparks, he might be saving you here but only time will tell.

[birkenhead]

and how do they intend on doing this impossible thing? Yawn!

Well if they wanted to find dodgy boxes it wouldn't cost them alot of cash at all, penny's actually!! all they have to do is sweep the network for all units collect the MAC addresses with IP's, remove the MAC'S that they know are within their own ranges from the OWN database, then bingo they have only the illegal ones left.

then they can associate the illegal MAC address to the IP address, which is registered to YOUR address then your nicked.

very easy really.


Sorry to piss on your corn fakes, the software they need to use is solarwinds engineer edition.


If you wanted cheat this you can.

copy your MAC from your router (VM router) and edit your init file in /var/etc

Or create it! (if not there!)

#!/bin/sh
ifconfig eth0 down
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:09:XX:30:77:XX
ifconfig eth0 up

# EPGRefresh starten
/var/bin/epgrefresh.sh &

[chongsparks]

Wouldn't the dreamboxes only show if the ethernet cable is connected as it doesn't have a built in cable modem ?

[birkenhead]

From the external network, they can see ALL MAC's if they wanted. All they would see is your main IP 84.60.7.XX with various MAC addresses, very unit connected to their network direct will have a MAC, you can use your stb MAC if you wish.

How do think they can switch off your Modem externally? VM and other providers all use DHCP, so they switch off your modem via MAC when you stop subscribing.

[thebigman]

How would they know if it was a router,gateway,laptop,pc or any other piece of perfectly legit hardware from the mac address?

thebigman

[satsmo]

A modem has a MAC what about an STB that doesnt? By the way thats a hypothetical question as no one here connects to the network unless they are subbed of course.

[birkenhead]

How would they know if it was a router,gateway,laptop,pc or any other piece of perfectly legit hardware from the mac address?

thebigman

That not to difficult is it, i know the range of legal MAC addresses of dreambox! 00.09.34.XX.XX theirs a start. finding other ranges wouldn't be to difficult if they contacted the manufactures of other illegal boxes. They can narrow their searches

Also all hardware is registered with FCC. So they can also get the info from there.

[thered]

all seems to be getting a bit going a bit far now why would anyone give virgin there box addresses they are doing no wrong they are sold as fta boxes its all pie in the sky scaremongering

[kenmonu]

scaremongering or truth

we wont be closing the thread.

you made , what you thought a valid point.

if you cant speak your mind then its not worth posting , and we want people to post and not be afraid too.

you may have been correct in hearing this , i no doubt you did.

but it happens often, and maybe a VM employee is doing the scaremongering.

We will leave it for now.

well said aftermath.

[boocay06]

Well if they wanted to find dodgy boxes it wouldn't cost them alot of cash at all, penny's actually!! all they have to do is sweep the network for all units collect the MAC addresses with IP's, remove the MAC'S that they know are within their own ranges from the OWN database, then bingo they have only the illegal ones left.

then they can associate the illegal MAC address to the IP address, which is registered to YOUR address then your nicked.

very easy really.


Sorry to piss on your corn fakes, the software they need to use is solarwinds engineer edition.


If you wanted cheat this you can.

copy your MAC from your router (VM router) and edit your init file in /var/etc

Or create it! (if not there!)

#!/bin/sh
ifconfig eth0 down
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:09:XX:30:77:XX
ifconfig eth0 up

# EPGRefresh starten
/var/bin/epgrefresh.sh &

sorry to post a silly question but how can they know the mac address of the box? i thought that the boxes did not talk back or send out any signals? i can understand the cable modem part but thats because upon initiation the modem contacts VM and lets them know its hardware mac VM in turn supply an ip. if the mac is blacklisted no ip will be supplied.