VM Crackdown, no box is safe !

[loncell]

run a splitter with subbed / free box , if you get a letter ring and act thick.personally i think its total utter garb.its funny really how she's the only person at virgin who knows of the magic signal sender

[loncell]

another far fetched idea....

1, VM creates a scare story
2, vm moitors all ip addressed visiting all known cable/sat sites
3, VM now has a list of possible culprits
4, trace down home address using ip address
5, perform test near culprit property

far fetched i know....

sorry 1 more

6,VM end up with the wrong MAC/IP address due to the fact im running a flashed modem so they mistakenly smash down the door of a mr bertyballbag's home the other side of town!.

[loncell]

ive just heard that the sweep what they are doing is sending a message down the line to there own boxes and if they do not get it back from there own boxes this is how they are knowing you have a box ie:if you have a virmin account and only pay for the lowest subscription but have a dodgey box on the feed they know you are paying for it but there not getting any talk back from there box and putting 2 and 2 together thust resulting in a letter through your door..... this is somthing i have heard so dont know how much credability it has......... so what ive suggested to my friends is buy a splitter and run both the boxes for a bit

so what if your like me and after an billing arguement with vm i asked to have the lot removed.they offered the minimum tv package for free.i said its utter shite i'll use my freeview take the box they said keep it as a good will geture.and it remains under the bed thick in dust.

it the end comes so be it no one cant say theyve not had a good run.

[KillerDog]

Hi guys, i have been reading this post from the start and i didnt take much notice in it to be honest.But, after today, i do believe that this post has some crediblity.I Pay vermin for basic for everything, but i have a splitter and a kryptview.I went to bed last night, turned everything off, got up today and turned both boxes back on.My vermin box had alot of channels missing, and the box wasnt running right.I rebooted it alot and it still had channels missing ,all i cud get was bb1 to channel 5, and a few radio ones. I rang vermin, and asked what the problem was, the lady tested my line and box there and then and told me that vermin had "accidently" turned off my channels.She pinged the box a few times and then my channels came back on.I honest believe that if i had NOT of had a splitter and was using my box then vermin wud of put 2 and 2 together and thought "why is this guy paying for a service that he aint using". I have been with vermin for 1 year and NEVER had any problem, until now. Funny how it co-insides with these checks and tests for fraud.Again, i might be wrong, but i warn you all, get a splitter and use your subbed box !!!!!

[Bucky]

Yeah, I'm kinda thinking just to be safe, i'll hook up the old box with a splitter.

Better safe than sorry i suppose eh.

[ITS A SCAM !]

Or you could just not have a dodgy box at all, and subscribe to sky HD like me only ?80 a month with internet

?80 a month !! I pay ?54 for BB and Phone and i think thats expensive. Most people are watching their wallet with all the financial problems going on around us. No jobs are secure, and christmas is coming. i think that ?950 a year is too much, anyway my family still mainly watch FTA channels. Good old freeview....what did we do without it ???

[loncell]

Hi guys, i have been reading this post from the start and i didnt take much notice in it to be honest.But, after today, i do believe that this post has some crediblity.I Pay vermin for basic for everything, but i have a splitter and a kryptview.I went to bed last night, turned everything off, got up today and turned both boxes back on.My vermin box had alot of channels missing, and the box wasnt running right.I rebooted it alot and it still had channels missing ,all i cud get was bb1 to channel 5, and a few radio ones. I rang vermin, and asked what the problem was, the lady tested my line and box there and then and told me that vermin had "accidently" turned off my channels.She pinged the box a few times and then my channels came back on.I honest believe that if i had NOT of had a splitter and was using my box then vermin wud of put 2 and 2 together and thought "why is this guy paying for a service that he aint using". I have been with vermin for 1 year and NEVER had any problem, until now. Funny how it co-insides with these checks and tests for fraud.Again, i might be wrong, but i warn you all, get a splitter and use your subbed box !!!!!

"why is this guy paying for a service that he aint using".

what about if you unplug it at night or while at work ?.i dont discredit this thread there might be truth in it i really dont know but i do think that people read into it a little too much.its like believing in ghost then staring into a dark corner , eventually you will see what you want to see.

[Donnie Darko]

"why is this guy paying for a service that he aint using".

what about if you unplug it at night or while at work ?.i dont discredit this thread there might be truth in it i really dont know but i do think that people read into it a little too much.its like believing in ghost then staring into a dark corner , eventually you will see what you want to see.

Your right, as for turning off at night,countless people do this.

The only time a box will miss channels is when its been off stream for months,the card will be unable to accept commands that process channels etc.
As such when put online the box/card require updating,hence people ring vm the operator can see the problem and asks why,what,has the box been doing.

In the majority of cases people are virtually telling vm they have a box,they throw the subbed box in the cupboard,9 mths later cards/boxes are hit.They then put the subbed box back online and ring vm to say they aint got all channels.
Always split the feed and leave your subbed box online,it will continue to talkback and accept any updates.

[McMav]

Does the subbed box talkback when in standby?

[durden267]

Recenty myself and a few friends and family who currently subscribe to Vm phone and/or Vm broadband have been contacted my Vm asking whether or not we would be interested in taking out a TV package for free(basic package no premium channels) and I was even offered the Large package for ?5 a month! Anybody else been privvy to this act of generousity? If so, could this be a way to identify anybody with a 'dodgy box' by monitoring the signal to their real box? Not sure if it's a point or not but thought it was worth mentioning!

[KillerDog]

Hi guys, just read some more postings. I want you to know that i have always had a splitter, and always had my subbed box turned on.I only turned it off for one night, and when i turned it back on, it had lost channels. I rang up vermin and a nice asian lady pinged the line, and the channels came back online.Myself personally, i am in NO doubt that this was a tactic used to find out if i "noticed", my channels had gone down.Thank god for my splitter. Maybe im being paradnoid , but im not taking chances, and all i can do is do the decent thing and tell the members on this great forum my persoanl experience of what had happened. Make of it what u will, but please use a splitter, it will help to keep you safe.

[bigman2]

Recenty myself and a few friends and family who currently subscribe to Vm phone and/or Vm broadband have been contacted my Vm asking whether or not we would be interested in taking out a TV package for free(basic package no premium channels) and I was even offered the Large package for ?5 a month! Anybody else been privvy to this act of generousity? If so, could this be a way to identify anybody with a 'dodgy box' by monitoring the signal to their real box? Not sure if it's a point or not but thought it was worth mentioning!

I have had similar offers may times and always tell them I am tied in with Sky for another 6 months. I doubt it is a tactic to work out if you have a dodgy box.

[oo7]

hi all,

this thread have some credit.

since last night i only get couple of free channels... does anybody know whats the best thing to do, i.e not use our blackbox!!!!!


your help appreciated!
oo7

[aftermath]

hi all,

this thread have some credit.

since last night i only get couple of free channels... does anybody know whats the best thing to do, i.e not use our blackbox!!!!!


your help appreciated!
oo7

since last night the keys rolled, so if your box dont autoupdate , you will only get free to air

[oo7]

hi,
could you please let me know a link to update the blackbox with auto update procedure.
thanks

oo7