VM Crackdown, no box is safe !

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

well said aftermath.

: dito : every one should feel free to post without the fear of a repercussion

[boocay06]

another far fetched idea....

1, VM creates a scare story
2, vm moitors all ip addressed visiting all known cable/sat sites
3, VM now has a list of possible culprits
4, trace down home address using ip address
5, perform test near culprit property

far fetched i know....

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

another far fetched idea....

1, VM creates a scare story
2, vm moitors all ip addressed visiting all known cable/sat sites
3, VM now has a list of possible culprits
4, trace down home address using ip address
5, perform test near culprit property

far fetched i know....

???? Not sure about that.

[caveman_nige]

Well to cap this topic off, I am still online with my box and I am not gonna shut down unless i hear the horrror stories....

[young]

only just read this post as i was busy last night watchin my box (actually iwas watching living with the wife) i was all cuddled up and adverts came on and guess what a advert for vm sayin they know about illiegal boxes and if any1 knows of anyone using 1 to ring a number and let them know. so if they did have the technolagy to tell wether you was using a box(which i very much doubt they do) why would they pay thousands of pounds out in advertising fees just hoping mrs greeneyedmonster from up the street will grass you up to them. so all in all i think this has been said i another thread somwhere else dont think that you are thew dogsboll**ks with one of these boxes and broadcast it from the roof tops and keep it to yourself and no one the wiser i for one am not turning mine off cause i want to watch united stuff celtic again on wed.....

[jumpinjo]

i want to watch united stuff celtic again on wed.....

i dont think so

[bigman2]

From the external network, they can see ALL MAC's if they wanted. All they would see is your main IP 84.60.7.XX with various MAC addresses, very unit connected to their network direct will have a MAC, you can use your stb MAC if you wish.

How do think they can switch off your Modem externally? VM and other providers all use DHCP, so they switch off your modem via MAC when you stop subscribing.

How many people actually connect directly to their cable modem ?

If you are connected via a router then they will not see the MAC addresses for any equipment connected to the router. The ISP should only see one MAC with one public IP.

[mini]

I remember a while back near where I live. A box went off so this guys wife rings cable and reports it. So they send a engineer round to have a look, engineer notices the box and says dodgy box. The woman not understanding english properly says "no box good my neighbour and cousin got 1 too. So a few hours later engineer comes back with police and raids her's, her cousins and also her friends houses. I think in total they got 20 boxes and they all got fines ?2500 each

[boocay06]

I remember a while back near where I live. A box went off so this guys wife rings cable and reports it. So they send a engineer round to have a look, engineer notices the box and says dodgy box. The woman not understanding english properly says "no box good my neighbour and cousin got 1 too. So a few hours later engineer comes back with police and raids her's, her cousins and also her friends houses. I think in total they got 20 boxes and they all got fines ?2500 each

i heard that happened in Leicester?

[caveman_nige]

I remember a while back near where I live. A box went off so this guys wife rings cable and reports it. So they send a engineer round to have a look, engineer notices the box and says dodgy box. The woman not understanding english properly says "no box good my neighbour and cousin got 1 too. So a few hours later engineer comes back with police and raids her's, her cousins and also her friends houses. I think in total they got 20 boxes and they all got fines ?2500 each

Comical... can see that happening though

[boocay06]

How many people actually connect directly to their cable modem ?

If you are connected via a router then they will not see the MAC addresses for any equipment connected to the router. The ISP should only see one MAC with one public IP.

Maybe i misunderstood, but i dont think he means the mac address of any NIC's he means the mac address of the actual modem because the modem is connected directly to the VM's network. he is saying that if you connect your box up to the same network (via the coax cable) then it may be possible for them to pick up the mac address of the box just like they pick up the mac address of a modem, because at the end of the day the cable network is a giant optical network.

[bigman2]

Maybe i misunderstood, but i dont think he means the mac address of any NIC's he means the mac address of the actual modem because the modem is connected directly to the VM's network. he is saying that if you connect your box up to the same network (via the coax cable) then it may be possible for them to pick up the mac address of the box just like they pick up the mac address of a modem, because at the end of the day the cable network is a giant optical network.

Maybe but the modem can talkback etc whereas the stb box is just a dumb box which just receives a signal. Unless it talks back in some form and broadcasts some sort of id then they will not know ?

You can also get those little supressor things you can screw on to the F connector which block comms going back.

I thought the MAC address for a dreambox was only used for comms ? I see no need for it to broadcast this as it is used for networking (ie net connections).

[boocay06]

Maybe but the modem can talkback etc whereas the stb box is just a dumb box which just receives a signal. Unless it talks back in some form and broadcasts some sort of id then they will not know ?

You can also get those little supressor things you can screw on to the F connector which block comms going back.

I thought the MAC address for a dreambox was only used for comms ? I see no need for it to broadcast this as it is used for networking (ie net connections).

i agree with you bigman2 (see my earlier post) i was just explaining what i thought birkenhead meant by scanning for macs

[birkenhead]

How many people actually connect directly to their cable modem ?

If you are connected via a router then they will not see the MAC addresses for any equipment connected to the router. The ISP should only see one MAC with one public IP.

I think alot of ppl of getting very confused, we are talking coax connections, not Ethernet (CAT 5).

What connects to your coax connection? Dream, vbox, dbox2, virgin modems, Sub boxes etc..
What connects to CAT 5? PC, Lappy, Linksys Routers, hubs.


They are different.

Software which will sweep the network and collect all MAC connected via COAX CONNECTION, can't remember its been a long time... think the old protocol was ARP. Again they can collect all MAC'S IF they wished.

[satsmo]

Not confused what about STBs without a MAC addy?