I think we need to know......

[casper46]

just watched the footy,PERFECTlY, no glitching or anything!!

Cheers KV

[jumpinjo]

Main point is your in control your not left shafted if the server goes down or has glitching issues, just change server if this happens.

you have no control what so ever and if paying so many months in advance your well and truly shafted if server goes down or is $hit or goes tits up then you have no choice but to find another and hope its better and you dont get shafted again, so best way to go is with your own sly sub and share

[mark8393]

freeloaders I meant in a hobbyist sense, surely it makes more sense to learn and empower yourself rather than line the pockets if traders.
Before forums I was once a freeloader and had a modded pace box on cable with a fun card, before by chance stumbling on the infamous novice angel guide and modshack , learned how to program my own cards, jtag my own recievers etc.
Ok spoon feeding for cable cs doesn't exist but sat ain't that hard to learn, better than relying on trader provided cs like kv and sv.

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yes spoon fed cable cs does exist. guy who does my sat stuff sent me one to try. watched 3 games yesterday, and liverpool tonight, perfect, but people are very wary off going cable cs again, find small private sat cs server and you should be fine, at least its under the radar, powers that be are after the big boys.

[gsmtech]

you have no control what so ever and if paying so many months in advance your well and truly shafted if server goes down or is $hit or goes tits up then you have no choice but to find another and hope its better and you dont get shafted again, so best way to go is with your own sly sub and share

I agree, the best route is to either, set up your own private share with trusted members famiy/friends etc..and split the costs.

Or go the traditional CS route and buy a official foreign viewing card and exchange packages with others.

Payservers in effect are again trader provided services and if you pay for multilple months in advance you can loose out if the server over night disappears, so avoid payservers if possible, If you have no other option..then only pay on a month by month basis, therefore minimising any risk.

As open CS discussion is not allowed i'll leave it there....

[gsmtech]

yes spoon fed cable cs does exist. guy who does my sat stuff sent me one to try. watched 3 games yesterday, and liverpool tonight, perfect, but people are very wary off going cable cs again, find small private sat cs server and you should be fine, at least its under the radar, powers that be are after the big boys.

I meant spoonfed in terms of a Novice Angel type cable CS for Dummies that lists out the complete procedure from RSA key extrsaction, card pairing, Softcam setup for a N3 card into DM500C etc...there is no such guide like there was for traditional cable N1.

[ASEK]

no server will be pay monthly, probably. if it's like ten quid a month for example works, out two hundred quid for the year including receiver. With more channels than kv, and HD, pvr as well, if you got a
Motorized dish even better.

Main point is your in control your not left shafted if the server goes down or has glitching issues, just change server if this happens.

or go traditional cs route buy an.official viewing card and share and swap with others.

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so one moment ur telling us go c/s sat route and u may have to fork out more dosh if the guy gets greedy and maxs out and move to another?

I agree, the best route is to either, set up your own private share with trusted members famiy/friends etc..and split the costs.

Or go the traditional CS route and buy a official foreign viewing card and exchange packages with others.

Payservers in effect are again trader provided services and if you pay for multilple months in advance you can loose out if the server over night disappears, so avoid payservers if possible, If you have no other option..then only pay on a month by month basis, therefore minimising any risk.

As open CS discussion is not allowed i'll leave it there....

now ur saying going private cause payservers are trader provided services, bit contradictory u must agree?

think i will sit it out and await the kv`s return a lot cheaper dude.

[gsmtech]

ermm im not telling you to do anything....im saying theres better options than relying on KV and SV and flakey servers.

Sat CS is better, how you implement is up to you, it is more expensive overall than say SV or KV, but your also getting more channels, and surperior recievers with HD, PVR etc etc..

- private ring share a subbed card.
- but a foreign card and share/swap packages.
- At a last resort use a payserver, but dont pay for multiple up front, pay monthly.

All 3 options are still better than the current crap service your getting from KV and SV. It just takes some reading and research...which wont be spoonfed, and requires some effort and learning. If your not willing to put the work in...then sit around and wait for KV and SV or buy a sub....

[ASEK]

- private ring share a subbed card.
- but a foreign card and share/swap packages.
- At a last resort use a payserver, but dont pay for multiple up front, pay monthly.

All 3 options are still better than the current crap service your getting from KV and SV. It just takes some reading and research...which wont be spoonfed, and requires some effort and learning. If your not willing to put the work in...then sit around and wait for KV and SV or buy a sub....

what makes u think i need spoonfed? would still prefer to wait for kv`s return, and dont for 1 minute think sat c/s wont take a hit in the near future.

[satsmo]

It's taken many hits and just as well as cable CS would not be available without so.

Each to their own of course, at the moment cable CS post N3 is at it's infancy here in the UK but has been up and running elsewhere for quite a while. Although their are no guides all the info is out their and readily available.

Sat will always maintain it's advantage over cable, but then again that's just an opinion.

[viddie]

i hear wot you are saying in the above posts, this is not me slagging them off all i'm saying is i think its time for a bit of honesty with regards these boxes!!!

fixed??
dead??

cheers,

Nothing can ever be honest with doggy/illegal boxes m8. Just hang in there and hopefull things m8 get better.

[martyn]

sad to say put my a790t on ebay . the shop i know said they have an HD box available cant remember the name but all channels work will post name when get it

[lagerland]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[derry1962]

ok martyn cheers let us know sounds good. still think i will hold out 4 kv, still have hope its a work in progress but only time will tell. cheers

[casper46]

MOVIES!!!!!!!!

Get in, well done KV